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U.S. officials say beefed up Benghazi security no match for ferocity of assault
cnn ^ | 9/20/2012 | elise labott

Posted on 09/20/2012 5:46:36 PM PDT by barryobi

Amid accusations from Libyans and leading senators on Capitol Hill that the U.S. diplomatic office in Benghazi, Libya, was not adequately protected, top State Department officials offered the agency's most vigorous defense yet of security measures taken to fortify the post in the months before last week's deadly attack on the compound.

The sources, who spoke on the condition they only be identified as senior State Department officials because of the sensitive nature of the information, agreed to speak to CNN to respond to claims the United States did not respond to warnings about the dangerous conditions in Benghazi.

The officials said over the past few months, several security enhancements were made to the compound, including additional barriers and barbed wire, increased lighting, chain link fences, additional sand bags and closed circuit television

The officials noted there were three regular armed U.S. security officers detailed to the Benghazi post on the day of the 9/11 attack in addition to two armed American guards serving as a private detail for Stevens.

(Excerpt) Read more at security.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; islam; kenyanbornmuzzie; libya; libyanconsulate; obama; stevens; waronterror
READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE.....It looks like the rats are turning on each other in haste to lay blame at somebody else. Whoever leaked this to CNN is doing some serious CYA.

So now we know the truth. ONLY FIVE ARMED AMERICANS TO PROTECT THE AMBASSADOR AND THE CONSULATE. They beefed up security by adding barbed wire, sandbags, and closed circuit cameras? What kind of crap is that. Oh yeah, they had a 'rapid reaction' force stationed in Benghazi to assist them if needed. According to my sources, there were less than 35 TOTAL AMERICANS AT THE SAFE HOUSE, INCLUDING THE EIGHT AMERICANS WHO FLEW IN BY HELICOPTER FROM TRIPOLI TO 'RESCUE' THE STAFF. So out of 35, how many were unarmed staffers, and how many were armed American security.

Also, the video cameras installed totaled FOUR, the few sandbags were useless, and the barbed wire a mere annoyance to the murdering scum who assaulted the consulate.

Romney needs to harp on the failure to provide protection for the Ambassador, that is Obama's Achilles heal right now. The lack of security is something that can't be argued. Now they are arguing over whether it was premeditated or not. That is beside the damn point! The fact there was not enough armed Americans in the whole damn country to fend off an attack by 100 jihadis is the point. When the consulate staff called the embassy for backup, the embassy sent EIGHT private security contractors!! To fight off 100+ terrorists with RPG's, mortars, and AK-47's, all we could muster was eight people!!

1 posted on 09/20/2012 5:46:41 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi
Stevens and the other Americans killed in the attack are believed to have died of asphyxiation from heavy smoke. The officials noted there were three regular armed U.S. security officers detailed to the Benghazi post on the day of the 9/11 attack in addition to two armed American guards serving as a private detail for Stevens.

Hasn't this already been proven a lie? Two of the 'guards detailed' to the post were in Tripoli for other reasons and responded to the attack at the last minute, and did not die of asphyxiation but were killed attempting a rescue?

2 posted on 09/20/2012 5:52:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: barryobi
....beefed up Benghazi security


3 posted on 09/20/2012 5:53:56 PM PDT by massmike (The choice is clear in November: Romney or Caligula!)
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To: barryobi
Where's the herd?

With so much BS stinking up the place, there's got to be a herd of cattle around here somewhere.

4 posted on 09/20/2012 5:55:17 PM PDT by GBA
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To: skeeter

Actually, Stevens probably did have two security of his own, but they fled without finding and bringing him with. One of the security sent from Tripoli to rescue those at the safe house was killed, and the other was already at the safe house and on the room defending the building when a mortar round landed on the roof and took him out. CBS has a nice video report of the safe house showing bloody flak jackets and exploded mortar rounds on the roof.


5 posted on 09/20/2012 5:57:27 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi

Love the title (not)

Beefed up security ? They make it sound like there was security in the first place ...

What security ... as opposed to almost none....?


6 posted on 09/20/2012 5:58:28 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: barryobi

Was Stevens two man security detail American or Libyan?


7 posted on 09/20/2012 5:59:43 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Popman

“The lethality and ferocity of this assault is nothing that has been witnessed in Benghazi in previous attacks, and hard for us to think about another event that is similar,” added a second official, saying that it was unclear additional armed guards could have prevented the onslaught.

The consulate was bombed on June 6th. Al-Qaeda filmed the bombing and uploaded it to YOUTUBE. So you think they would stop with just a bomb once they knew you were too dumb to put adequate security there?


8 posted on 09/20/2012 6:00:26 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi

Time for me to watch my DVDs again. KHARTOUM and 55 DAYS AT PEKING. Or, how not to, and How to protect an embassy.

Both star Charlton Heston.


9 posted on 09/20/2012 6:00:41 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: barryobi

“...top State Department officials offered the agency’s most vigorous defense...”

Too bad their defense of US personnel was not as robust as their CYA defense.


10 posted on 09/20/2012 6:01:13 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: barryobi
There are too many witnesses and evidence that warnings were given prior to the assault. Obama, Clinton, and Rice outright LIED... People died on missions serving US and they were ‘sitting ducks’ on the anniversary of 9/11.

Soooo Hillary what did you know and when did you know it????

11 posted on 09/20/2012 6:02:19 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: barryobi

That’s what I want in my next firefight, a video camera.


12 posted on 09/20/2012 6:02:43 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: skeeter

American, there were FIVE American security at the consulate, Five unarmed private Libyan security protecting the perimeter, and then an unknown number of armed Libyan members of the February 17 Brigade who were supposed to provide more muscle but ran off when the firing started.


13 posted on 09/20/2012 6:15:44 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: skeeter
“Hasn't this already been proven a lie?”
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It conflicts w/information given by another anonymous official from another agency who claimed the 2 former SEALs killed (Doherty and Wood) were there on another mission and were not responsible for the ambassador's security. That official claimed that Doherty and Woods were staying at the “safe house” and ran to the aid of the ambassador when they heard the gunfire at the consulate.

Links:

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/world-news/american-killed-in-libya-was-on-intel-mission-to-track-weapo.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2933732/posts

There is no evidence I have seen to indicate there were any other U.S. personnel providing security for Ambassador Stevens at the time of the attack. If the other 3 individuals referred to in the CNN article were there, what happened to them and what were they doing at the time of the attack that led to them becoming separated from the ambassador???

14 posted on 09/20/2012 6:17:08 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: jwalsh07

Don’t forget a hi def monitor. That really tightens things up nicely.


15 posted on 09/20/2012 6:17:32 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: skeeter
Was Stevens two man security detail American or Libyan?

Stevens had NO SECURITY.

According to this morning's Chris Plant radio show, WMAL,the two former SEALS were contract employees of a British Security firm called Blue Mountain (something). They were hired to secure the Consulate's documents. They chose to defend the employees out of sense of duty.

To date I've read nothing that indicates how or when they died. One of them was buried to day, sadly I can't recall that brave man's name.

16 posted on 09/20/2012 6:20:17 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: barryobi
Where's the beef?

17 posted on 09/20/2012 6:20:49 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Two great movies. Like Khartoum better cuz you got to see lots of towel heads killed. But that's just me. Chuck played a great “Chinese Gordon”. When Chuck was killing infidels you could see the gleam in his eye. He wasn't acting in those scenes.
18 posted on 09/20/2012 6:20:54 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

One of the two ex-SEALS was part of the rescue group flown in from Tripoli. The other was blown off the roof of the safe house by a mortar round...........Here is the story which came out the day after about the attack...........

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/libya-ambassador-battle-idINL5E8KCMYB20120912

Of the eight American troops who had come from Tripoli, one was killed and two were wounded, Obeidi said. A Libyan deputy interior minister said a second American was also killed in the attack on the safe house. It was not clear if this was a diplomat or one of the consulate’s original security detail.

“It began to rain down on us,” Obeidi told Reuters, describing the moment the attack began - just as the Libyan security force was starting up the 10 pickup trucks and sedans they had brought to ferry the Americans to the airport.

“About six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa,” he said. “During this firing, one of the marines whom I had brought with me was wounded and fell to the ground.

“As I was dragging the wounded marine to safety, some marines who were located on the roof of the villa as snipers shouted and the rest of the marines all hit the ground.

“A mortar hit the side of the house. One of the marines from the roof went flying and fell on top of us.”


19 posted on 09/20/2012 6:33:05 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi
U.S. officials say beefed up Benghazi security no match for ferocity of assault

Why on 9/11 was the ambassador in Benghazi rather than the more secure embassy building in Tripoli?

20 posted on 09/20/2012 6:33:23 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Covenantor

Of the eight American troops who had come from Tripoli, one was killed and two were wounded, Obeidi said. A Libyan deputy interior minister said a second American was also killed in the attack on the safe house. It was not clear if this was a diplomat or one of the consulate’s original security detail.

“It began to rain down on us,” Obeidi told Reuters, describing the moment the attack began - just as the Libyan security force was starting up the 10 pickup trucks and sedans they had brought to ferry the Americans to the airport.

“About six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa,” he said. “During this firing, one of the marines whom I had brought with me was wounded and fell to the ground.

“As I was dragging the wounded marine to safety, some marines who were located on the roof of the villa as snipers shouted and the rest of the marines all hit the ground.

“A mortar hit the side of the house. One of the marines from the roof went flying and fell on top of us.”


21 posted on 09/20/2012 6:33:53 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi
all we could muster was eight people!!

And how many of them only had handguns?

22 posted on 09/20/2012 6:38:01 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: barryobi

Given the size and power of the assault a dozen security guys would have made little difference. However, since there is ample evidence that we had intel three days prior, the ambassador should NEVER have been allowed to go into Jihadi Benghazi.


23 posted on 09/20/2012 6:49:36 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: barryobi; onyx; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; Nachum; SJackson; ...

Excellent catch....


24 posted on 09/20/2012 6:52:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the ping. This is going to leave a mark.


25 posted on 09/20/2012 6:58:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: barryobi

Beefed up security to me means a gatling gun chambered in.45-70. But that’s just me.

About 49,000. Cheap insurance.


26 posted on 09/20/2012 6:59:21 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: barryobi

27 posted on 09/20/2012 7:01:24 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: GBA
I wouldn't give my name either if I was going to make a total ass of myself by telling ridiculous lies. They are incompetent and stupid.
28 posted on 09/20/2012 7:02:06 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: barryobi
Hi Barryobi-

Thx. Yes, I was aware of that report; however, there were many conflicting reports regarding the firefights at the consulate and the “safe house.” I have doubts about the accuracy of this report as the reaction force is identified as “Marines.” Headquarters Marine Corps issued a statement early on that there were no Marines in country at the time of the attack including the embassy at Tripoli. Marines did not arrive in Tripoli until a FAST Company was deployed from Rota, Spain in response to the murder of Ambassador Stevens. To the best of my knowledge the Marine FAST is still located at the embassy in Tripoli. My guess is the reaction team referenced in your article was either CIA or DoS security personnel ...but who knows.

Based on everything I read it appears one of the former SEALs was killed at the consulate and the other died at the safe house (probably one of the 2 casualties your article mentions. Still, that seems to indicate there was at least one other member of the reaction force wounded and several others who apparently were extracted by the convoy that eventually left the “safe house.”

That still begs the question as to who was responsible for the ambassador's security at the time he was attacked at the consulate; other than the Libyan contractors; who apparently ran away for the most part. (Assuming that the most recent report that the 2 former SEALs were staying at the “safe house;” were not part of the security detail and joined the fray after hearing the initial gunfire.)

Regards,

-Geoff

29 posted on 09/20/2012 7:02:57 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; barryobi
Thanks Ernest. I read an earlier article that said the building was flimsy and didn't even have bullet-proof windows!


30 posted on 09/20/2012 7:05:08 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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To: barryobi

Hmm. Remember last week when the state department claimed they couldn’t SAY ANYTHING because there was an investigation?

Now that it is more convenient for them to try to defend themselves, they seem to have no problem talking loudly, if not truthfully.


31 posted on 09/20/2012 7:18:18 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JoeProBono

Hahahahahaha!


32 posted on 09/20/2012 7:37:17 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

I think the report I referenced undoubtedly has errors, but since it was filed on sept 12, that is to be expected. The fact the reporter interviewed the February 17 brigade guy who picked up the 8 Americans at the airport and transported them to the safe house leads credence to the story. The reporter calls them Marines, but the reporter was a local Libyan, so he may think of all armed Americans as ‘marines’. The report is too detailed about the mortars hitting the consulate and the one security person being blown off the roof by a mortar explosion.

Here is a story with a CBS video report embedded that seems to mesh with what the story I posted here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57513675/a-look-at-the-libya-safe-house-that-was-attacked/


33 posted on 09/20/2012 7:43:04 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I must humbly assume the full range of the left wing American news media will do their best to protect her reputation. After all, some of them are looking forward for her running in 2016.
And the Kenyan usurper must protect her ass to protect his ass. Like a three ring circus.
Meanwhile I watch into the second hour a three hour House of Representative hearing with the DOJ's Inspector General provide information as to their final findings, chaired of course by Representative Darryl Issa. Video has another 1-1/2 hours plus to go. So I may not be returning to FR for any immediate response.
34 posted on 09/20/2012 7:45:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: barryobi

I’m still waiting for the final word from the man who knows everything about anything .... yes, Slow Joe .... it’s not real until Slow Joe says it is.


35 posted on 09/20/2012 8:00:12 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (You can never blame a progressive for a failure .... it's always the fault of someone else.)
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To: skeeter
Obama should be arrested NOW.

We need NUTINY, NOW, our ship of state is sinking faster than we thought.

36 posted on 09/20/2012 8:00:25 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost; TigersEye; onyx; Marine_Uncle
Thanks for that little note....

See post #14...

37 posted on 09/20/2012 10:37:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ernest. Thanks for the three latest pings. It is 1:40AM EST, and I’m shot. I just finished the HR committee hearing, chaired by Darryl Issa, regarding the fast and furious investigations. 3 hour session. I’m shot. So I will with respect deter your postings to the upcoming day at my end, after I try to get some sleep. Do have a great upcoming day.


38 posted on 09/20/2012 10:44:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Have a good snooze...we’ll all be around here tomorrow.


39 posted on 09/20/2012 10:57:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: fso301

>>Why on 9/11 was the ambassador in Benghazi rather than the more secure embassy building in Tripoli?

Christopher Stevens Feeds the Crocodile
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2930836/posts

Stevens was the diplomatic version of “Grizzly Man” Timothy Treadwell.


40 posted on 09/21/2012 3:06:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You're most welcome.

An addendum from what was reported on FOX last night: DoS in their testimony to Congress yesterday claimed there were 5 security officers w/the ambassador at the time of the attack; however, DoS also seems to be implying that the 2 former SEALs who were killed were part of that group; which contradicts what has been reported from an anonymous official from another agency who claimed the SEALs were not part of the ambassadors security detail and did not have primary responsibility for the ambassador and his staff.

To the best of my knowledge, no other security officers have been identified; nor do we know why they were so ill prepared and why they apparently became separated from the ambassador during the attack.

41 posted on 09/22/2012 7:10:12 AM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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