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White House narrative on Libya all but collapsed
Hotair ^ | 9:21 am on September 21, 2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/21/2012 1:57:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

On Sunday, the White House narrative on the assassination of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi was that they died in a protest that “spun out of control,” as UN Ambassador Susan Rice insisted on multiple talk shows. That narrative hasn’t even lasted out the week. By Wednesday, officials in the US government began acknowledging that the so-called “riot” at the consulate in Libya had elements of planning and heavy weapons; by yesterday, Barack Obama himself refused to answer questions about the nature of the attack. There may not have even been a protest at the consulate before the attack.

Today, The Daily Beast’s Eli Lake looks at the collapse of the Obama narrative on the attack, and the questions it raises about the administration’s handling of consular security in an area known to be rife with Islamist militias and terrorists:

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabspring; benghazi; bluemountain; feb17; february17; february17brigade; february17brigades; intercept; jchristopherstevens; libya; waronterror

1 posted on 09/21/2012 1:57:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Cannot hide the lies anymore...


2 posted on 09/21/2012 1:59:52 PM PDT by Shady (Hey, King Bozo Osmocote....you can't hide the truth anymore..)
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To: Shady

As if the media will report this.


3 posted on 09/21/2012 2:01:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No one left to LIE to??? Oh PLEASE.....HALF of America is GIMME, GIMME.


4 posted on 09/21/2012 2:02:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama and Hillary are derelict.


5 posted on 09/21/2012 2:05:33 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Libya has collapsed, too!!!!

EPIC FAIL!!!!


6 posted on 09/21/2012 2:06:39 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: All; TigersEye; Shady; dfwgator; Ann Archy; Marine_Uncle; onyx; Nachum; SunkenCiv
I think this is new:

****************************EXCERPT***************************************

What’s more, two U.S. intelligence officials told The Daily Beast that the intelligence community is currently analyzing an intercept between a Libyan politician whose sympathies are with al Qaeda and the Libyan militia known as the February 17 Brigade—which had been charged with providing local security to the consulate. In the intercept, the Libyan politician apparently asks an officer in the brigade to have his men stand down for a pending attack—another piece of evidence implying the violence was planned in advance.

7 posted on 09/21/2012 2:09:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Honorary Serb
Well....see this thread:

30,000 Libyans protest against militias

8 posted on 09/21/2012 2:11:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is the MSM a part of the Obama lies and cover-up? Also, Savage has said the Ambassador was abused before his death.
Why is that information hidden from the public?


9 posted on 09/21/2012 2:13:31 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Ann Archy

They’re not Democrats. They’re Gimmedats.


10 posted on 09/21/2012 2:14:21 PM PDT by Noumenon (“...the other side wants everything in America to be free, except us.” Paul Ryan)
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To: mo

Hillary looks worn down on t.v. She looks like she is at least 72 years old.


11 posted on 09/21/2012 2:14:37 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: FreedBird

I’m sure being a road warrior is tough on the old girl.
Even traveling private jet and staying in 5 star hotels, it’s not easy at her age.


12 posted on 09/21/2012 2:16:19 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...a Libyan politician whose sympathies are with al Qaeda and the Libyan militia known as the February 17 Brigade—which had been charged with providing local security to the consulate.

That's some security arrangement there, 0bozo!

13 posted on 09/21/2012 2:23:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: nascarnation
I’m sure being a road warrior is tough on the old girl.
Even traveling private jet and staying in 5 star hotels, it’s not easy at her age.

Especially when you hit the booze as hard as she does.

14 posted on 09/21/2012 2:33:11 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

1. Warned before the attack
2. Did absolutely nothing
3. Failed to defend people operating on his behalf letting them be killed
4. Immediately tried to deflect the attack as an escalation of a protest of a video
5. Refused to call it an act of terrorism
6. Refused to admit it was anything other than what he said it was
7. CBS reports there was no demonstration
8. It is reported that 125 well armed men attacked and executed a well made plan to kill our diplomats and their staff
9. A member of his own administration calls if obviously terrorism
10. Obama and Clinton continue to refuse to admit it was terrorism publically
11. A blue-ribbon panel has been assigned to investigate
12. The Obama team now says it would be inappropriate to comment until the investigation is done

Collapsed?

He won’t even talk about it anymore. It didn’t just collapse. It vaporized.


15 posted on 09/21/2012 2:38:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us so many new friends.)
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To: Shady
Just looking at the Daily Beast website....found this:

Obama Foreign Policy is Appalling outsie of the ME also

16 posted on 09/21/2012 2:40:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: nascarnation

Her Husband is probably having fun. When the cat is away, the ___________will play!


17 posted on 09/21/2012 2:42:10 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: DoughtyOne; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; onyx
Obama wants the discussion to be vaporized off of the Airways....don't think that is gonna happen...

Did you see the little note I picked out of the Daily Beast regarding US Intelligence intercepting a message to the Libya Militia to stand down for the attack.....

I hadn't seen that before....

18 posted on 09/21/2012 2:47:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ann Archy
In that 47% they count as receiving government assistance are people who get the “earned income tax credit” which is easy to get for any young couple.

That said I have 5 adult children, their spouses and mates and out of 10 all are voting Romney. They understand their civic duty as voters and that you do not ever vote just your wallet. That 47% is a BS number because it hides all the details of it's existence.

19 posted on 09/21/2012 2:49:15 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; bronxville

February 17 Brigade *ping*

bronxville was interested in them last week, I believe it was.


20 posted on 09/21/2012 2:53:14 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Whitehouse Narrative” new euphemism for lying sack of dogpoop!


21 posted on 09/21/2012 2:59:15 PM PDT by databoss
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Actually no, I hadn’t seen that.

I had seen reports that the Libyan security forces had directed the attackers toward the ‘safe’ house.

I tend to take most of this with a grain of salt.

There are so many sources and misrepresentations that get made, that it’s almost impossible to believe it all, or know which parts to believe.

Some of the wire services reporting out of the region have their own agenda too, so it’s hard to know how much is true, embellished, or flat out lies.


22 posted on 09/21/2012 2:59:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us so many new friends.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ok these articles state he was scheduled for a public appearance in the most heavily occupied city the day after 9-11. They also state the tribes were all informed. Why not fly a blimp over the city saying come kidnap me. So if the White house had the information as reported were they stupid or was it a setup?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/opinion/what-libya-lost-when-ambassador-stevens-died.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www

http://www.boston.com/whitecoatnotes/2012/09/13/mass-general-doctor-who-spoke-with-ambassador-stevens-just-before-his-death-pledges-commitment-for-peace-libyan-colleague/yEjOeOE7dQksPv64SGsidM/story.html


23 posted on 09/21/2012 3:01:41 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: liberty or death; All
In that 47% they count as receiving government assistance are people who get the “earned income tax credit” which is easy to get for any young couple.

That said I have 5 adult children, their spouses and mates and out of 10 all are voting Romney. They understand their civic duty as voters and that you do not ever vote just your wallet. That 47% is a BS number because it hides all the details of it's existence.

You are correct. It is not even 47 percent of people, it is 47 percent of households. If your mother is living with you, and she gets social security, your household is one of the 47 percent. If your spouse is getting a military pension, your household is one of the 47 percent.

A considerable number of the 47 percent are conservatives.

I understand the point Romney was trying to make, which is that we are becoming a dependant nation, but he has said that he could have said it better, and it is true.

There is also a good bit of the tape missing and we do not know the context for that. Presumably it was to make the worst possible cut for Romney.

24 posted on 09/21/2012 3:06:34 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Paine in the Neck

Plus keeping Huma happy.....


25 posted on 09/21/2012 3:20:23 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: DoughtyOne


Obama owns this. If I was in the Obama's diplomatic corps stationed in harms way I'd be making sure my affairs were in order.
26 posted on 09/21/2012 3:30:12 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I’m not convinced you’re wrong. I’m not convinced you are right, because this may turn out to be a change of direction in the region.

Right now, things are settling. I tend to believe you are on the right track, but some strange things are going on right now, and it’s plenty tough to read.


27 posted on 09/21/2012 3:41:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us so many new friends.)
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To: Noumenon

“They’re not Democrats. They’re Gimmedats.”

LOL!


28 posted on 09/21/2012 3:44:00 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Foreign policy is all Obama has to hang his hat on. They F**Ked up big time. Romney better get his talking points sharpened for the debates


29 posted on 09/21/2012 3:48:42 PM PDT by Starstruck (It's all Obama's fault)
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To: marktwain

This whole 47% argument is a major decoy to get the other 53% to feel things are hopeless. The reality is we have about 35 to 37% who are either severe dependents who have no choice, total losers who love free sh!t, hard core Marxists & the brain dead Hollywood/Broadway/Media Elites. The percentage that are truly in need of assistance are some of the most conservative people I know. 47% to Obama is BS.


30 posted on 09/21/2012 3:56:17 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

the brain dead Hollywood/Broadway/Media Elites.

I should not have thrown them in but they only represent about .25 percent of the population.


31 posted on 09/21/2012 3:58:48 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: FreedBird
When the cat is away, the ___________will play!

Mouse in the House: The Memoirs of Monica Lewisky

32 posted on 09/21/2012 4:08:09 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (It's Nakoula's fault.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

The Democrats made Clinton a Rockstar, for his performance with the Intern.


33 posted on 09/21/2012 4:11:00 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "Obama wants the discussion to be vaporized off of the Airways....don't think that is gonna happen..."

I wouldn't care to bet against that statement. Thank you for your continued coverage on these issues, as they surface.

34 posted on 09/21/2012 4:21:26 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: dfwgator
As if the media will report this.

Where's Fox News?

One would think that if Fox reported on this angle that the other mass media outlets would also have to address it.

Has Fox News run with this yet?

Where's the outrage?

35 posted on 09/21/2012 4:23:40 PM PDT by sargon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Buffoons.

Check out my new tagline.


36 posted on 09/21/2012 4:52:20 PM PDT by cyclotic ( Obama's golden halo is really just a rusted hubcap)
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To: databoss
“Whitehouse Narrative” new euphemism for lying sack of dogpoop! "


Joe Wilson and " THE PEOPLE " had it right the first time " YOU LIE ! " ....
37 posted on 09/21/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Starstruck

4 dead Americans. 4 times as bad as Carters 1979 F***up.


38 posted on 09/21/2012 5:42:50 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This “Middle East” crap is nonsense.

All of these events are happening in the NEAR East, not the middle east.

The Near East are all Shemitic peoples (Arabs, and Hebrews, etc.) while the Middle East are all Caucasian peoples (descendants of Japeth) and their politics do not mix well with the Shemitic nations of the Near east.


39 posted on 09/21/2012 9:29:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


40 posted on 09/22/2012 5:55:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Hide the decline"

Cheers!

41 posted on 09/22/2012 6:22:51 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Irenic; Ernest_at_the_Beach

“February 17 Brigade *ping* - bronxville was interested in them last week, I believe it was.”

Thanks for the ping Irenic, and for posting the great article Ernest.

6/17/2012 Ex-rebels fill Libya’s security vacuum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIyiM3PEWCU

The video depicts the Libyan Security Guards - “Martyrs of the Feb17 Revolutionary Brigade” (Feb17), whose leader is Fawzi Bukatef w/ linkage to the Muslim Brotherhood (MB). The Feb17 group are closely assoc. with al Sharia who have linkage to al Qaeda, linkage to **al Nour and the MB. They guarded the UN Mission, hospitals, roads...they probably drove the Ambassador to the US Mission from Tripoli. They were obviously well trusted. Islamists are experts at disguise and propaganda - thinking Armenian Genocide.

**The Salafist/Wahabbi al Nour Party are partnered with the Islamist MB in the Egyptian parliment. Libya is still being run by an Interim government whose president has ties to the MB.

Flashback: Bomb targets U.S. mission in Libya’s Benghazi - happened on June, 6, 2012...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2934692/posts

Rebels transforming Libya into Sharia state:
http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1798/rebels-transforming-libya-into-sharia-state

Libyan authorities give rebel militias two weeks to hand in weapons...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8941415/Libyan-authorities-give-rebel-militias-two-weeks-to-hand-in-weapons.html

Wahabbi-Salafis...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Difference_between_sunni_and_wahabi

My eyes glaze over when reading the names of these different factions, finding out their belief system, linking to their leaders, much easier. I think all those weird names, including alQaeda, were red herrings anyway. The bearded Salafis/Wahabbi were the assassins back in Mo’s day except today they use bombs. Regular Muslims say they’re ignorant, and preach things that have nothing to do with their religion, though their story entices the young. They destroy not only Churches, but also Mosques and dig up their saints. I’ll bet they can’t wait to destroy the pyramids...


42 posted on 09/22/2012 6:57:33 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lies will ALWAYS be found out.....


43 posted on 09/22/2012 6:58:18 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting. This comports with what I read of one of the Americans killed texted just before the ambush to his internet friends that ‘one of their [local] police was taking pictures’ of their building.


44 posted on 09/22/2012 7:01:03 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: FreedBird

The only source of that ‘information’ was a terrorist website in Lebanon.


45 posted on 09/22/2012 9:14:57 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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