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The Gospel of Jesusí Wife? When Sensationalism Masquerades as Scholarship
AlbertMohler.com ^ | 9/20/12 | R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 09/22/2012 12:41:56 PM PDT by rhema

The whole world changed on Tuesday. At least, that is what many would have us to believe. Smithsonian magazine, published by the Smithsonian Institution, declares that the news released Tuesday was “apt to send jolts through the world of biblical scholarship — and beyond.” Really?

What was this news? Professor Karen King of the Harvard Divinity School announced at a conference in Rome that she had identified an ancient papyrus fragment that includes the phrase, “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife.’” Within hours, headlines around the world advertised the announcement with headlines like “Ancient Papyrus Could Be Evidence that Jesus Had a Wife” (The Telegraph).

The Smithsonian article states that “the announcement at an academic conference in Rome is sure to send shock waves through the Christian world.” The magazine’s breathless enthusiasm for the news about the papyrus probably has more to do with advertising its upcoming television documentary than anything else, but the nation’s most prestigious museum can only injure its reputation with this kind of sensationalism.

A Fragment of a Text, an Even More Fragmentary Argument

What Karen King revealed on Tuesday was a tiny papyrus fragment with Coptic script on both sides. On one side the fragment includes about 30 words on eight fragmentary lines of script. The New York Times described the fragment as “smaller than a business card, with eight lines on one side, in black ink legible under a magnifying glass.” The lines are all fragmentary, with the third line reading “deny. Mary is worthy of it,” and the next reading “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife.’” The fifth states, “she will be able to be my disciple.”

The papyrus fragment, believed to be from the fourth century, was delivered to Professor King by an anonymous source who secured the artifact from a German-American dealer, who had bought it years ago from a source in East Germany. As news reports made clear, the fragment is believed by many to be an authentic text from the fourth century, though two of three authorities originally consulted by the editors of the Harvard Theological Review expressed doubts. Such a find would be interesting, to be sure, but hardly worthy of the international headlines.

The little piece of ancient papyrus with its fragmentary lines of text is now, in the hands of the media, transformed into proof that Jesus had a wife, and that she was most likely Mary Magdalene. Professor King will bear personal responsibility for most of this over-reaching. She has called the fragment nothing less than “The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife” — a title The Boston Globe rightly deemed “provocative.” That same paper reported that Professor King decided to publicize her findings before additional tests could verify the fragment’s authenticity because she “feared word could leak out about its existence in a way that sensationalized its meaning.” Seriously? King was so concerned about avoiding sensationalism that she titled the fragment “The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife?”

This is sensationalism masquerading as scholarship. One British newspaper notes that the claims about a married Jesus seem more worthy of fans of Dan Brown’s fictional work, The Da Vinci Code, than “real-life Harvard professors.” If the fragment is authenticated, the existence of this little document will be of interest to historians of the era, but it is insanity to make the claims now running through the media.

Professor King claims that these few words and phrases should be understood as presenting a different story of Jesus, a different gospel. She then argues that the words should be read as claiming that Jesus was married, that Mary Magdalene was likely his wife. She argues further that, while this document provides evidence of Jesus’ marital status, the phrases do not necessarily mean he was married. More than anything else, she argues against the claim that Christianity is a unified body of commonly-held truths.

Those familiar with Karen King’s research and writings will recognize the argument. Her 2003 book, The Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the First Woman Apostle, argued that another text from the era presented Mary Magdalene as the very model for apostleship.

A Preference for Heterodoxy

The thread that ties all these texts and arguments together is the 1945 discovery of some 52 ancient texts near the town of Nag Hammadi in Egypt. These texts are known to scholars as Gnostic literature. The texts present heretical narratives and claims about Jesus and his message, and they have been a treasure trove for those seeking to replace orthodox Christianity with something different.

Several ambitions drive this effort. Feminists have sought to use the Nag Hammadi texts to argue that women have been sidelined by the orthodox tradition, and that these Gnostic texts prove that women were central to the leadership of the early church, perhaps even superior to the men. Others have used the Nag Hammadi texts to argue that Christianity was diverse movement marked by few doctrinal concerns until it was hijacked by political and ecclesiastical leaders, who constructed theological orthodoxy as a way of establishing churchly power in the Roman Empire and then stifling dissent. Still others argue that Christianity’s moral prohibitions concerning sexuality, and especially homosexuality, were part of this forced orthodoxy which, they argue, was not the essence of true Christianity. More than anything else, many have used the Nag Hammadi texts as leverage for their argument that Christianity was originally a way of spirituality centered in the teachings of a merely human Christ — not a message of salvation through faith in a divine Jesus who saves sinners through the atonement he accomplished in his death and resurrection.

Professor King, along with Princeton’s Elaine Pagels, has argued that the politically powerful leaders who established what became orthodox Christianity silenced other voices, but that these voices now speak through the Nag Hammadi texts and other Gnostic writings. Writing together, King and Pagels argue that “the traditional history of Christianity is written almost solely from the viewpoint of the side that won, which was remarkably successful in silencing or distorting other voices, destroying their writings, and suppressing any who disagreed with them as dangerous and obstinate ‘heretics.’”

King and Pagels both reject traditional Christianity, and they clearly prefer the voices of the heretics. They argue for the superiority of heterodoxy over orthodoxy. In the Smithsonian article, King’s scholarship is described as “a kind of sustained critique of what she called the ‘master story’ of Christianity: a narrative that casts the canonical texts of the New Testament as a divine revelation that passed through Jesus in ‘an unbroken chain’ to the apostles and their successors — church fathers, ministers, priests and bishops who carried these truths into the present day.”

King actually argues against the use of terms like “heresy” and even “Gnostic,” claiming that the very use of these terms gives power to the forces of orthodoxy and normative Christianity. Nevertheless, she cannot avoid using the terms herself (even in the titles of her own books). She told Ariel Sabar of Smithsonian, “You’re talking to someone who’s trying to integrate a whole set of ‘heretical’ literature into the standard history.”

Orthodoxy and Heresy: The Continual Struggle

Those who use Gnostic texts like those found at Nag Hammadi attempt to redefine Christianity so that classic, biblical, orthodox Christianity is replaced with a very different religion. The Gnostic texts reduce Jesus to the status of a worldly teacher who instructs his followers to look within themselves for the truth. These texts promise salvation through enlightenment, not through faith and repentance. Their Jesus is not the fully human and fully divine Savior and there is no bodily resurrection of Christ from the dead.

Were these writings found at Nag Hammadi evidence of the fact that the early church opposed and attempted to eliminate what it understood to be false teachings? Of course. That is what the church said it was doing and what the Apostles called upon the church to do. The believing church did not see heresy as an irritation — it saw heterodoxy as spiritual death. Those arguing for the superiority of the Gnostic texts deny the divine inspiration of the New Testament and prefer the heterodox teachings of the Gnostic heretics. Hauntingly, the worldview of the ancient Gnostics is very similar, in many respects, to various worldviews and spiritualities around us today.

The energy behind all this is directed to the replacement of orthodox Christianity, its truth claims, its doctrines, its moral convictions, and its vision of both history and eternity with a secularized — indeed, Gnositicized — new version.

Just look at the attention this tiny fragment of papyrus has garnered. Its few words and broken phrases are supposed to cast doubt on the New Testament and the doctrines of orthodox Christianity. A tiny little fragment which, even if authentically from the fourth century, is placed over against the four New Testament Gospels, all written within decades of Jesus’ earthy ministry.

“The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife?” Not hardly. This is sensationalism masquerading as scholarship. Nevertheless, do not miss what all this really represents — an effort to replace biblical Christianity with an entirely new faith.


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1 posted on 09/22/2012 12:42:01 PM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

The Gospel of duplicate threads, when repetition meets failure to search:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2934782/posts


2 posted on 09/22/2012 12:44:23 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: rhema

Of course Jesus was married! And just what is the problem with that? Adam and Eve were married. Why not Christ? In Jesus’ day, one could not be addressed as Rabbi or Rabboni unless he was married.


3 posted on 09/22/2012 12:48:49 PM PDT by LukeSW (The truth shall make you free!)
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To: rhema

This has been posted before - I don’t care if Jesus was married or not - He is still the Savior. He lived as others in His time, and getting married is not a sin, it is ordained by God, so why not marry? Again, doesn’t matter.


4 posted on 09/22/2012 12:53:30 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: LukeSW

Thanks Pope Luke! You have spoken, so it is. BTW, could you make sure there’s no rain tomorrow? I gotta be in the garden.


5 posted on 09/22/2012 12:54:16 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: LukeSW
You should immediately inform the Vatican. Obviously for centuries they have lacked the depth of wisdom you have acquired, and will be eternally grateful for your insight.
6 posted on 09/22/2012 12:59:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rhema
Hauntingly, the worldview of the ancient Gnostics is very similar, in many respects, to various worldviews and spiritualities around us today.

Not so much.

The Gnostics were extremely varied, but one of the few things most of them had in common was a belief that the physical world of matter was utterly corrupt and that to be holy one must withdraw from this world as much as possible.

This meant, at least for the leaders, celibacy and asceticism.

This is not, to put it mildly, a popular POV in the modern western world.

7 posted on 09/22/2012 1:01:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: rhema

interesting that just bits and pieces and no full context. I guess if I found a papyrus that had say ..”He went out and hung himself.... Go and do likewise” then I could advocate for suicide.

stupid agenda driven ‘scholars’


8 posted on 09/22/2012 1:06:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...
Great article: Names the names of those who bear a lot of responsibility for the modernist drift in some Lutheran and other bodies.

Therefore:



Lutheran Ping!

Be rooted in Christ!

9 posted on 09/22/2012 1:08:55 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: Ad Orientam; antonius; aposiopetic; arielguard; blinachka; bob808; branicap; Calabash; ...
Great article: Names the names of those who bear a lot of responsibility for the modernist drift in many church bodies.

Therefore

Orthodox Ping!

O heavenly King, O Comforter, the Spirit of Truth
who are in all places and fillest all things:
Treasury of good things and Giver of life:
Come and dwell in us and cleanse us from every stain,
and save our souls, O good One.

10 posted on 09/22/2012 1:10:54 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: Nifster

We should ignore both Christian and non-Christian contemporaneous accounts of Jesus’ life, and accept a Harvard professor’s interpretation of a scrap of paper written 400 years after He walked the earth.

Mmmmkay.

If I learned anything from the Dan Brown books, it’s that too many people will believe anything.


11 posted on 09/22/2012 1:11:57 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Sherman Logan

>>Professor King, along with Princeton’s Elaine Pagels<<

Typical angry lesbians from the Ivy League whose adgenda coincides with the progressive/liberal media? Who would’a thunk it?

Grrr!

Øbama voters...


12 posted on 09/22/2012 1:20:33 PM PDT by delcopatriot
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To: LukeSW; All

“Of course Jesus was married! And just what is the problem with that? Adam and Eve were married. Why not Christ? In Jesus’ day, one could not be addressed as Rabbi or Rabboni unless he was married.”


First of all, Jesus rebuked the practice of calling anyone Rabbi, which is the equivalent of saying ‘Great Teacher’ or “Infallible Teacher”.

Mat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Second of all, the idea of Christ actually marrying and having children is found nowhere in scripture. This is a 4th centry fragmentary text that has, essentially, no meaning. It’s also an offensive idea, since it basically is like saying that God Incarnate would marry a woman, become One with her in the sight of the law, and then promptly get crucified and leaving her without any support. It’s obvious from the Gospels that Christ was a man always on the move, living day to day on prayer, essentially living, with His human nature, the perfect God-dependent existence. If He had a wife, He would be home all the time and working to support the family, living the perfect married man’s life which puts his wife on an equal measure with himself.


13 posted on 09/22/2012 1:24:13 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: rhema

There is nothing in the new testament to indicate at all the Jesus ever married. This surely would have been mentioned had it been true. One little scap of papyrus supposedly indicating to the contrary, in unknown context, written 400 years after His death pretty much is meaningless.

Besides, there could be missing words that put it into context such as “take” and “please.”


14 posted on 09/22/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: humblegunner

I I don't think I'd even *seen* the one humblegunner posted:
15 posted on 09/22/2012 1:35:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: delcopatriot

Many (not all) Gnostics viewed the physical world of matter as evil in itself. Therefore they viewed reproduction, which traps more spirit beings within matter, as inherently evil too.

Since women do the reproducing, they generally had a less positive view of women than the Church did.

Dan Brown and his ilk just project the beliefs of a 21st century idiot back into the Roman Empire and claim the Gnostics believe as they do.

They didn’t.

The Brownians actually have no sense of history. Their preferred belief system actually existed in 18th and 19th century Russia among (some of) the Khlysti. One of their beliefs was that to be forgiven your sins, you first have to accumulate some. Rituals to ensure lots of sinning were involved.


16 posted on 09/22/2012 1:38:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: lightman; rhema

Read her bio, and you’ll get some idea what her “research” is worth.

http://www.hds.harvard.edu/people/faculty/karen-l-king


17 posted on 09/22/2012 1:38:23 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: SunkenCiv
I don't think I'd even *seen* the one humblegunner posted:

Probably because I didn't post one. Pay attention.

18 posted on 09/22/2012 1:41:33 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: rhema

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks rhema.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


19 posted on 09/22/2012 1:43:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: humblegunner

Just the link, hg, just the link.


20 posted on 09/22/2012 1:45:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: HerrBlucher
Besides, there could be missing words that put it into context such as “take” and “please.”

Along with the indispensable <rimshot>.

<rimshot>

21 posted on 09/22/2012 1:47:59 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: rhema

Gnosticism that attempted to distort and discredit Christianity (lied in other words) was very active during the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th century A.D..


22 posted on 09/22/2012 1:48:42 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Honorary Serb
I wonder how her views would have been accepted at the Council of Nikea.
23 posted on 09/22/2012 2:05:24 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Sherman Logan
I believe the author is correct, and you are mistaken.

The belief that the material world is evil is very much in tune with modern "spirituality," particularly if ritual sexual practice replaces celibacy in the ascetic. The rationale for that approach is that sex is a transcendent spiritual act which, correctly used, is integral to overcoming the material.

This is the essence of the heresy propounded in Holy Blood, Holy Grail and stolen so shamelessly by Dan Brown. Its appeal is clearly demonstrated by the publishing success of the original, and of the plagiarist DaVinci Code. It's no sillier than the belief that anything created by God could be intrinsically evil, or that God would allow the material world to be created by an evil demiurge (among many Gnostic variations.)

If you want to object that this is not "original" Gnosticism, I would say that historically I'm not sure that's true; there are, as you observe, many variations of this heresy. But even if I stipulate to the hypothetical that it isn't originalist Gnosticism, it is very much in keeping with the modern, buffet approach to "spirituality," maintaining that materialism is evil -- except for the fun parts.

24 posted on 09/22/2012 2:05:39 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
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To: thulldud; HerrBlucher
In the same vein:

"You kiddin' me? He's the Son of God, he's got a Jewish Mother. You really think any girl he brought home was good enough? Please."

25 posted on 09/22/2012 2:09:55 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
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To: rhema

I was always taught the the Bride of Christ was the Church.


26 posted on 09/22/2012 2:25:20 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: FredZarguna

I have no doubt that a lot of moderns are attracted to what they think the Gnostics believed.

I just sincerely doubt many of those who do have much of any idea of what the Gnostics really did believe. They project modern viewpoints into the past and think, “They were just like me!”

This is much like modern “indigenous peoples” who romanticize their ancestors. I suspect any modern Indian or Hawaiian who actually got to meet his Iroquois, Comanche or Polynesian forebears would be appalled.

Just as I would be by my Viking and Irish ancestors.

Anyway, I stand by my assertion that upper-class twits living a 21st century life of luxury and sexual indulgence that only kings enjoyed in the 3rd century have little in common with Gnostics who believed the path to salvation was absolute poverty and celibacy.

These moderns may talk a good game about living a simpler life, but with perhaps rare exceptions they always want someone else to live that life.


27 posted on 09/22/2012 2:27:56 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: rhema

The hilarity of this is that claiming a random 4th century manuscript, fragmentary or not, has inherent Gospel-level authority is like claiming something must be true because you read it on the Internet.


28 posted on 09/22/2012 2:42:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: rhema
What's a good estimate of how many people who dismiss out-of-hand the Shroud of Turin (and I'm a skeptic - I just don't know) will jump on this as proof-positive before a full examination?

They had real good eyesight back then, huh? It can be read with a magnifying glass? How'd someone write it?

29 posted on 09/22/2012 3:10:53 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: rhema

Yeah, ALL of the Apostles simply forgot to mention that minor detail/sarc off


30 posted on 09/22/2012 3:49:34 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: rhema

About a year ago I subscribed to the Smithsonian magazine, and rather quickly became uneasy about its content and general tone.


31 posted on 09/22/2012 4:10:37 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: LukeSW

The only way to conclude with certainty that Jesus was married, using your kind of reasoning, is to accept the premise that in those days all men were married.


32 posted on 09/22/2012 4:21:07 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: Honorary Serb
Read her bio, and you’ll get some idea what her “research” is worth.

Among the list...Coptic studies.

Who'd have thunk it?

Maybe they will turn her into a orthodox Christian.

33 posted on 09/22/2012 4:34:37 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: HerrBlucher
Besides, there could be missing words that put it into context such as “take” and “please.”

Along with a partially decipherable attribution to one H-n-y -oun-ma-

34 posted on 09/22/2012 5:38:39 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: RaisingCain
If He had a wife, He would be home all the time and working to support the family, living the perfect married man’s life which puts his wife on an equal measure with himself.

Good point. Also, if Jesus had a wife and family they would have been revered and perhaps worshiped as deities themselves. The Catholics already do that with his mother; can you imagine if he had a wife and kids, grandkids, great grandkids...?

35 posted on 09/22/2012 6:07:50 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: rhema

...”How can I believe the story of Jesus when it was written decades after his death?”
...”Ooooh, look! A centuries-old scrap of paper that contradicts the Gospels—it must be true!!”


36 posted on 09/22/2012 6:17:35 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: rhema

Can some artist here come up with a picture of activists putting a gun to Cathy’s head demanding he support them? That is what it seems like they want to do.


37 posted on 09/22/2012 6:27:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: beelzepug

Precicely. And the more one studies the Bible, the clearer and more blatant it becomes.


38 posted on 09/22/2012 7:02:15 PM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: randog
The Catholics already do that with his(sic) mother

An urban legend perpetuated by the ignorant.

39 posted on 09/22/2012 7:16:12 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: humblegunner
You just like to bitch and moan when the prunes and All-Bran don't work.

One more time:

If it's just a generic repost, then we follow the four hour guideline.

40 posted on 09/22/2012 7:19:28 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: rhema

The evidence is overwhelming that the Gospels are contemporaneous accounts. There is absolutely nothing that connects the Gnostic gospels to anyone living during Jesus’ day. For that reason alone the Gnostic gospels should ignored.


41 posted on 09/22/2012 7:21:15 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

too much time on their hands and not enough wisdom to use it for better things... ;)


42 posted on 09/22/2012 10:25:11 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Marcella

This is ABSOLUTE HERESY!!! An abomination even to suggest such tripe!!


43 posted on 09/23/2012 7:03:02 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Deo Vindice (God will vindicate) February 22, 1861)
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To: lightman

I very much doubt that....being that Copts are Monophysites
And rejected Chalcedon....


44 posted on 09/23/2012 7:06:52 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Deo Vindice (God will vindicate) February 22, 1861)
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To: TexConfederate1861

“This is ABSOLUTE HERESY!!! An abomination even to suggest such tripe!!”

I said I don’t care if he was married or not, so send your message to someone who does.


45 posted on 09/23/2012 7:42:02 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: lightman

You can bet that her “Coptic studies” are geared toward translation of Coptic-language Gnostic texts from heretics who opposed the early Church Fathers!!!!

This is just another feminazi pseudo-scholar from Harvard Divinity School, a place that has turned rancid with heresy and postmodern nonsense in the past 20 years!!!!


46 posted on 09/24/2012 6:05:09 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: rhema

It would be interesting to see what others have to say about this translation.

Certainly Jesus and the Apostles spoke of his “Bride” quite often.

Jesus WAS married - but not in the way this lady is claiming.


47 posted on 09/24/2012 6:12:59 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Marcella

Yep. TYPICAL. As Christ said: “Cast not your pearls before swine, lest they turn and rend you to pieces” Don’t worry, I have no intention of wasting my time any further with you. You will, in the end, suffer for your slander.


48 posted on 09/25/2012 3:13:46 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Deo Vindice (God will vindicate) February 22, 1861)
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To: TexConfederate1861

“You will, in the end, suffer for your slander.”

I said I don’t care if Jesus was married or not. I’ll be happy to tell Jesus himself I don’t care.


49 posted on 09/25/2012 4:40:19 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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