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Rasmussen: PA - 0bama 51% - Romney 39%
Rasmussen Repors ^ | 9-20-12 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 09/22/2012 5:14:26 PM PDT by red in brea

President Obama has jumped to a double-digit lead over Mitt Romney in the battleground state of Pennsylvania.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Pennsylvania shows Obama with 51% of the vote to Romney’s 39%. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate in the race, and seven percent (7%) remain undecided.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2012polls; election; obama; romney
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To: red in brea

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BM’d; coming back to this thread in the morning.


51 posted on 09/22/2012 5:41:58 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: red in brea

Aren’t these the same guys whom Obama insulted as “clingin’ to the guns and religion..” How much more shameless can you get to support this ass?


52 posted on 09/22/2012 5:42:34 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: red in brea

Oh, and to the conservatives in Pennsylvania: May I suggest a move to Texas? Because if obastard is re-elected, servitude and starvation are just the start. It gets worse from there, and the United States won’t survive. Texas MIGHT.

/someone planning an exit from CA to TX...


53 posted on 09/22/2012 5:42:46 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: tatown

totally agree.

after they re-elected Murtha over that outstanding Naval Officer, I have nothing but utter disdain for PA.

Spend a weekend at Rehoboth Beach on summer and you can start to understand why PA has to be the fattest, redneck, uneducated, disgusting state in the Nation.


54 posted on 09/22/2012 5:43:08 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: AdamBomb

Exactly right. If Mitt wins PA, it will be a GOP national wave that brings the state along, not any money.

He needs his resources for VA, OH, and FL. Then pick up one state (CO or NH or NV or IA).


55 posted on 09/22/2012 5:45:06 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: red in brea

I smell a rat...a democ-rat.


56 posted on 09/22/2012 5:45:14 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: red in brea

According to Wiki.....Hispanic population has risen by 82.6% between 2000 and 2010. Not a good trend for the GOP.


57 posted on 09/22/2012 5:45:16 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Hammerhead
FU2

Oh and by the way genius, Rehoboth is in Delaware !


58 posted on 09/22/2012 5:46:00 PM PDT by tomkat (it's time)
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To: MNJohnnie

That is the one thing they are not good at.
To them, 1.6 trillion is smaller than 160 billion......


59 posted on 09/22/2012 5:47:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Varsity Flight
Read it an weep. FY 2007 is the last GOP Congress/Bush Budget FY 2011 is the last Dem Congress/Obama budget Photobucket
60 posted on 09/22/2012 5:47:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: piytar

I wonder about that. Can Texas support itself, food wise?


61 posted on 09/22/2012 5:48:01 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: beethovenfan

Yes, that is the case.

There isn’t much we can do about it, we are outnumbered by stupid as far as the eye can see.


62 posted on 09/22/2012 5:48:11 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Perdogg
Well that seals it then, prognosticators have spoken, no need for Nov. 6th then.

More Americans are loving the idea of a Federal “parent” taking care of you, even some Republicans like this idea. Why the surprise when someone promising more wins? Freemen can overcome Obama, unfortunately freemen cannot overcome the electorate who vote for public servants like Obama.

63 posted on 09/22/2012 5:48:46 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: red in brea

The state’s population has been in decline because college graduates leave the state before they enter the workforce. I think just a tiny percentage of college graduates who could afford to leave the state chose to stay in the last 20 years or so. In the meantime hispanics and liberals from NY/NJ move in to buy up cheap, unwanted housing and the indigenous population gets older and reliant on government checks.

The “blue-collar Reagan Democrat” is a big constituency here, but they’re Democrats not because of liberal social policy but because they hate rich people. They would swing vote for someone like Paul Ryan, a middle-class Catholic, but Ryan’s sudden disappearance from almost all news coverage probably pushed Romney’s numbers down. Romney is the textbook picture of the caricature of a Republican that these voters have always despised, the same kind of wealthy business tycoon who they grew up hearing gunned down striking miners 100 years ago and that sort of thing.

As for the blacks in Philly, other minorities, and the young, middle-to-upper class and very liberal whites in the suburbs, I haven’t heard of one who’s going to change their vote. They’re still just as in love with Obama as they’ve always been. The educated types will spew the perfectly memorized left-wing memes they were taught in college as reason to vote for Obama, chief among them the idea that health care, education, housing, food, etc. “should” be free for everyone.


64 posted on 09/22/2012 5:49:43 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: chris37

They already did! Remember Fast Eddie Rendell?


65 posted on 09/22/2012 5:49:49 PM PDT by baldisbeautiful ("The greatest miracle is the fact that politicians are tolerated." G. K. Chesterton)
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To: MNJohnnie

I love how the libs tag 2009 to Bush - Stimulus and all. They are sick Fs.


66 posted on 09/22/2012 5:50:06 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Penn. IS a battleground state and has 20 electoral votes. It is not red for Rs, and not blue for Ds, it's yellow making it a battleground state.

They called 500 likely voters.

67 posted on 09/22/2012 5:50:09 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Marcella

Do they list the R/D/| split?


68 posted on 09/22/2012 5:52:41 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: tatown
Easy now. Not this guy. The idiot is in the WH. The problem in this area is industry has left and the only jobs remaining are teachers, prison guards, and Penndot. It is probably over 47%, but people can't handle the truth. That said, what people need to realize is, if they have a government job, they depend on the government. Its not just people who don't pay taxes, on welfare or food stamps. And with all that, the area is still predominately Republican.
69 posted on 09/22/2012 5:52:57 PM PDT by Racer1
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To: baldisbeautiful

I do, but they learned nothing, and should they assist in re-electing Obama, much, much worse will come their way.

And they will deserve it.


70 posted on 09/22/2012 5:53:03 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: montag813

“Ann Romney’s near-tears performances on TV last week may reflect scary internal polls”

I missed this. She was near tears? This would have been all over the MSN to “prove” Romeny was toast. I don’t buy it.


71 posted on 09/22/2012 5:53:31 PM PDT by red in brea
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To: Marcella
Penn. IS a battleground state and has 20 electoral votes. It is not red for Rs, and not blue for Ds, it's yellow making it a battleground state.

Not really. Last Repub to take it was HW Bush in 88. It's the GOP's big tease. It's not solid blue like New York or California, but it is definitely a safe/lean Dem state in a presidential race. Not a pure swing state like Florida or Ohio.
72 posted on 09/22/2012 5:54:17 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: fatima; xsmommy; South Hawthorne; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; ...

PA Ping!

If you want on/off the PA Ping List, please freepmail me. Thanks!


73 posted on 09/22/2012 5:56:14 PM PDT by randita
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To: Perdogg

I don’t see how unless it is a massive blowout.


74 posted on 09/22/2012 5:56:52 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Perdogg

I don’t see how unless it is a massive blowout.


75 posted on 09/22/2012 5:56:52 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: carcraft

Do you think I believe a word that comes out of Messina’s mouth? If he was anything other than a scumbag liar, he wouldn’t be part of the Obama campaign.


76 posted on 09/22/2012 5:57:39 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

PA is not in play this election and never has been, the title is misleading, it’s is not a swing state this time around.
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Romney will win PA.
just one factor... lots of Catholics there.
and Obama is down 27% with Catholics, from 2008.
Obama is down were EVERY group.
even NARAL’s study show WOMEN abandoning Obama...


77 posted on 09/22/2012 5:58:43 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MNJohnnie

WOOOSH....McCain and The Undocumented One, quick back to D.C. for the big 08 Bailout under Bush.

Two Big govt. faction parties, at war with one another, seeking who they may devour.


78 posted on 09/22/2012 5:59:13 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: tomkat

Philly has always been dark blue. The idiots are the enviro-conscious white upper middle class folks in places like Bucks County that used to vote GOP but are now card carrying democrats. I used to live there so I know what I’m talking about.


79 posted on 09/22/2012 6:01:15 PM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: crosslink

“Do they list the R/D/| split?”

Not for people who are not members. Have to log on as a member to get to more specifics. Membership costs money.


80 posted on 09/22/2012 6:02:18 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: red in brea

http://unskewedpolls.com/qstarnewsquickpoll.cfm


81 posted on 09/22/2012 6:03:50 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: nhwingut

Well, right now it is listed a battleground state.


82 posted on 09/22/2012 6:03:55 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: red in brea

A little disheartening, but not unexpected. As another FReeper pointed out, PA is the big tease for GOP presidential candidates. It always seems like “this year will be different”, but it never quite gets there.

Still, the national polls are close and the states Romney has to have are all still winnable. Pennsylvania would have been nice, and a real thorn in Obama’s side, but Romney can win without it.


83 posted on 09/22/2012 6:04:00 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

PA was carried by Obama by over 10% in 08. This is low on the immediate attack plan, but not out of the question. The difference was 600K votes.


84 posted on 09/22/2012 6:05:21 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: tatown

Philly has always been dark blue. The idiots are the enviro-conscious white upper middle class folks in places like Bucks County that used to vote GOP but are now card carrying democrats. I used to live there so I know what I’m talking about.

Yes and they vote in alphbetiical order at a 99.9 percent level. I would love to have someone plant wireless cameras in the polling places to see what happens after they close.


85 posted on 09/22/2012 6:05:21 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Elendur
But who are the Catholics there, Elendur? Many, most esp. the under 50's, are cultural Catholics -- just like their parents and grandparents are cultural Democrats. That is, they are groups who pull the D lever because "everyone I know always has", not because they have big emotional ties either way.

Believe me, I will dance a jig in the street if PA goes for Romney/Ryan. But I would never tell the RNC to spend money there... all things considered.

86 posted on 09/22/2012 6:05:27 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: mo
Yup


87 posted on 09/22/2012 6:06:04 PM PDT by tomkat (it's time)
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To: MNJohnnie

Because he is smart enough to understand that WI is in play. He is not spending much time in Il, NY, VT...

I don’t think Mitt could win in Pa but he has a better chance being seen by some out of work coal miner there than where he spent tis weekend. Mitt is not spending enough time in swing states and its going to hurt him.


88 posted on 09/22/2012 6:06:52 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Mitt better grow a pair or this thing will be over soon.)
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To: Moorings

In 2010, Republicans took back five congressional seats from Democrats, elected a Republican Governor, and elected a strong conservative U.S. Senator, Pat Toomey. The PA General Assembly is GOP controlled. Republicans hold a 30-20 majority in the Senate, and a 112-90 majority in the House.

So PA is not like Illinois - not by a long shot. But in presidential years, the urban voters get really revved up and overcome the suburban and rural voters. Bush lost PA by only 4 pts. in 2004.

If Obama weren’t half black, it would be a lot closer.


89 posted on 09/22/2012 6:06:52 PM PDT by randita
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To: workerbee

Sorry Bucks County Pa.We get the Philly and area news.


90 posted on 09/22/2012 6:08:22 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: tomkat
Don't take all this personally, tomkat. We know there are lots of good PA'ers. Hey, try being a conservative in Maryland! At least up there you still get wooed!
91 posted on 09/22/2012 6:08:30 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: tomkat

Flop Philthy in Texas and you would find the body in the Rio Grande.


92 posted on 09/22/2012 6:08:33 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Mitt better grow a pair or this thing will be over soon.)
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To: Elendur
just one factor... lots of Catholics there.

and Obama is down 27% with Catholics, from 2008.

The older ones are "JFK Catholics." They've been in love with the Democrat party ever since JFK's campaign. They're not persuadable.

As far as young Catholics, it's difficult to find any non-immigrant white people who are young and actively religious.

93 posted on 09/22/2012 6:09:24 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: Elendur; workerbee; LS

I wonder if anyone happened to see this article about Montgomery Co PA.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-are-you-seeing-what-im-seeing


94 posted on 09/22/2012 6:10:19 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: rollo tomasi
Wrong.

There are few "rural" Democrats in PA.

Johnstown isn't rural. That's Big Labor Country. Call them bitter-clingers and they don't care.

There is only one "swing" area in PA. That is the old coal region around Scranton and Wilkes-Barre. That is largely ethnic Catholic, there are some traditional morality people there who have gone for Santorum and Toomey.

The reason PA has turned is because of the Philadelphia suburbs, which used to be Republican territory. Those five highly populated counties turned in the early nineties and have not turned back.

95 posted on 09/22/2012 6:11:40 PM PDT by FredZarguna (James Carville: "PA is Philadelphia in the East, Pittsburgh in the West, and Alabama in the middle.")
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To: workerbee
Having trouble pivoting off of 'wooed' as a comparative reference .. it's been sooo long since being exposed to it, in either direction              
96 posted on 09/22/2012 6:12:00 PM PDT by tomkat (it's time)
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Breakin’ It Down
Keepin’ It Real
Reelin’ It In
Romney/Ryan 2012


97 posted on 09/22/2012 6:12:05 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: stevio

I wonder about that. Can Texas support itself, food wise?
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Yep all those big old steers don’t come from milk farms in minnesota. Texas has everything except a complete wall around it.


98 posted on 09/22/2012 6:12:54 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Mitt better grow a pair or this thing will be over soon.)
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To: randita
In 2010, Republicans took back five congressional seats from Democrats, elected a Republican Governor, and elected a strong conservative U.S. Senator, Pat Toomey.

Toomey won by a tiny margin, 1 or 2 points. That race is probably the best template for Obama/Romney this year, since it was a federal position. 2010 was an off-year election where Tea Party activity surely gave the Republicans an extra 5-10 points. That margin of victory will be pulled down in a presidential year where turnout of the politically ignorant will go way up. If he had to run his race again, Toomey would lose in 2012 by more points than he won in 2010.

99 posted on 09/22/2012 6:14:59 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: randita

Thank you. So many idiots posting here who know nothing about PA. This isn’t Kali, or even Illinois.


100 posted on 09/22/2012 6:15:49 PM PDT by FredZarguna (James Carville: "PA is Philadelphia in the East, Pittsburgh in the West, and Alabama in the middle.")
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