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BREAKING: CBS/NYT Report Dem Turnout To Break All-Time Records
Breitbart.com ^ | 9/26/12 | John Nolte

Posted on 09/26/2012 6:02:01 AM PDT by NoobRep

Here are the CBS/New York Times internals. And here's the con the CBS/NYTs is attempting to pull:

Florida:

In 2004 the vote was R+4.

In 2008 the vote was D+3

CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9.

Ohio:

In 2004 the vote was R+5

In 2008 the vote was D+8

CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9

Pennsylvania:

In 2010 the vote was D+3

In 2008 the vote was D+7

CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9.

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Again, why won't the media report the dramatic news that Democrats are expected to turnout in record numbers against Republicans?

Because the media doesn't believe it.

And yet, that's exactly what media polls claim will happen.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; obama; poll; romney
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To: NoobRep

I think the Dem. turnout will be far lower, I have not seen any sign of enthusiasm for Obama. Problem is I don’t see any sign of enthusiasm for Romney either.


51 posted on 09/26/2012 7:03:30 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: God luvs America

-— the pro-Romney/anti-obama stickers outweigh the pro-obama stickers...——

In Manhattan? Wow. The media is lying its collective ass off.


52 posted on 09/26/2012 7:05:01 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: NoobRep

I don’t believe it no-way no-how. Does the MSM not remember 2010? Geez I remember Nancy Pelosi confidently stating the week before the election that the Dems would keep The House. The only poll that counts is the one to be taken November 6th!


53 posted on 09/26/2012 7:06:14 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

-— . We were driving through an “Obama” neighborhood yesterday and there was not one yard sign for the POS ——

It’s looking like a landslide to me.

Thank God for Al Gore’s internet. Twenty years ago I’d be reading these biased polls in a newspaper (remember those?) and pulling my hair out.

Now I can get direct on-the-ground reports to find out what’s really going on.

Thanks Al!


54 posted on 09/26/2012 7:10:06 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It’ll slowly come back... in the form of a trickle instead of tingle.


55 posted on 09/26/2012 7:11:42 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom (Don't be the proof that MSM PsyOps works.)
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To: Red Badger

Fox New this morning said Romney will only take North Carolina from the 08 election. First thought I had was what about Indiana...knowing they forgot that state, I know it was a bogus statement.


56 posted on 09/26/2012 7:11:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: NoobRep

Spain will be counting the votes.

The fix is in.


57 posted on 09/26/2012 7:11:49 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Cruising For Freedom
The application form for an Ohio Absentee Ballot says:

"An application by mail must be received by your county board of elections by noon on the third day before the election. An application by you in person must be received by your board of elections by 6 p.m. the last Friday before the election."

58 posted on 09/26/2012 7:18:32 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Here in Moonbat Massachusetts, I’m hard-pressed to find an Odumbo sticker while I commute for two hours each day. Last time, every tenth car had an Odumbo sticker.

The same can be said for Austin. I saw two 0 bummer stickers on a POS car yesterday, looked at the driver and it was a young kid. One sticker was the "I heart obamacare". I've seen two other cars with 0bummer/biden stickers and both had coexist stickers as well. I've seen a lot more anti 0 bummer stickers and signs that for him.

59 posted on 09/26/2012 7:22:06 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: Travis McGee
That’s why crowds of 50,000-plus are greeting Obama at every rally.

/sarc


Rush reported yesterday that CNN is saying it is not presidential for Mitt to have so many people show up at his rallies. :)
60 posted on 09/26/2012 7:24:22 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: KosmicKitty

Can you post the link to the PA data you’re getting please? Thank you. I’d love to see those numbers!


61 posted on 09/26/2012 7:25:58 AM PDT by katieanna
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Sorry, I see the data you’re looking at.


62 posted on 09/26/2012 7:28:39 AM PDT by katieanna
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To: Travis McGee

How “non fiction” is it that we the American people cannot believe ANYTHING our free press or goverment tells us.

I believe Oboma will be reselected no matter what and that there is a goverment behind the goverment that gives the orders.

“they” have filled our entire beuracacy and military with Bible hating reprobates of all stripes and colors, sodomites, muslims, commies, and sexual perverts like Bubba.

Its the ones we never hear about that scare me the most. the satanists and pedophiles that are never exposed.

Why do you suppose we never hear about them? Are they even there?


63 posted on 09/26/2012 7:29:32 AM PDT by winodog
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To: KosmicKitty

Only PA is reporting the 2010 numbers

I don’t think 2010 numbers are accurate either but 2008 for sure aren’t. Maybe something in the middle. A Presidential race is always going to have more Democrats participating then a mid-term election. Democrats for the most time from what I gather really only think having a Democratic President is important (weird I know but that is the way I see it).


64 posted on 09/26/2012 7:32:50 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: NoobRep
Good strategy, report record high numbers of Dims expected and this gives Dims more cover for more voter fraud.

I have never seen the like for Democrat ad lies and the MSM trying to cover for them.

65 posted on 09/26/2012 7:35:38 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: LS

Thank you very much for publishing this... If the democrats are going to experience this massive decline in absentee ballots as you are showing and a similar ratio of decline on Elections Day then there is no way that Obama can win Ohio... The math cannot be refuted in this case...


66 posted on 09/26/2012 7:37:35 AM PDT by Conservative12345
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To: Tammy8
It is true that the enthusiasm for Romney is not high but the enthusiasm “against Obama” is very high... The fact remains is that the media extremely biased polls are running totally against the reality on the ground by the insane oversampling of democrats and the undersampling of Republicans and Independents...
67 posted on 09/26/2012 7:37:50 AM PDT by Conservative12345
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To: ILS21R

I do think conservative turnout will be high like in 2010, but democratic turnout will be higher than 2010 so I don’t think you can reset the polls to those numbers. Blacks, for instance, never turnout for midterms. I do think dems are oversampled a bit, but not to the extent the unskewed polls showing Romney with a significant lead by using 2010 numbers. My opinion is that I agree with Rassmussen and it is somewhere in the middle and it is essentially a tie right now.


68 posted on 09/26/2012 7:46:37 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: NoobRep
I live in a small town with 50% Black pop. I have not seen one Obama sign.

Three black nurses have asked a white nurse how to vote Repoublican.

I'm not saying Obama won't carry the black vote... but the enthusiasm is gone.

It helps Romney that Madonna has promised to strip naked if Obama wins.

Who wants that visual trauma?

69 posted on 09/26/2012 7:50:03 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Cruising For Freedom; LdSentinal

I’ll have to check on both these. I think early voting starts this week, but I’m not sure. BTW, LdSentinal reports similar good numbers for NC absentees.


70 posted on 09/26/2012 7:53:27 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: NoobRep

All these people are going to rush and vote to exetend the golfers tax payer funded t time? Really?


71 posted on 09/26/2012 7:56:01 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: NoobRep

the absentee fraud must be off the charts


72 posted on 09/26/2012 7:56:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lonestar

My town is about 40% black and I disagree, the enthusiasm is there (Newport News, VA). I have a lot of black FB friends from HS and they are all still in the tank. I am not seeing the yard signs and the bumper stickers at 2008 levels from the whites (I’m not seeing them for Romney either), but the blacks still support the usurper here. There are only 2 houses on my street with signs this year and my house is not one of them. Both signs are Romney, but it is a conservative white voting neighborhood. In 2008, I’d say a good 75% of yards had a sign and about 75% of those were McCain... though Obama won my precinct 51-49.


73 posted on 09/26/2012 7:59:04 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Common Sense 101

They can See BS.


74 posted on 09/26/2012 7:59:32 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: muawiyah

“As Axelrod knows so well, Democrat voters are difficult to convince to vote ~ some of them must literally be beaten, and their hands held to mark an absentee ballot.”

How does having unrealistically optimistic polls get them to vote? They would be more likely to stay home because they think the election is in the bag.


75 posted on 09/26/2012 8:06:15 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: Bon mots

LOL! Funny stuff!


76 posted on 09/26/2012 8:08:25 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Tammy8

They must want us to think the dems enthusiasm is like Silent Majority / Tea Party conservative “below the surface” enthusiasm when contrarily lib/dems are much more In Yo Face when they are really in the lead and excited about their candidate. Remember 2008?

This is all about getting their bases out to vote and they are not having much success. That is why Moochelle is talking slavery and Underground Railroad.

The MSM knows the shites are about to hit the fan and they are down to do or die defense of their clear support of the left and nobama. They don’t care if they are proven to be lying, they assume that after the election the sheeple will just forget.


77 posted on 09/26/2012 8:15:30 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Little Ray

Maybe the massive fed ammo buyup is in case the election theft is so obvious that the good and well armed have enough and move to retake the nation.


78 posted on 09/26/2012 8:23:44 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: NoobRep

“BREAKING: CBS/NYT Report Dem Turnout To Break All-Time Records”

While the title may be sarcastic, that is exactly what the msm is trying to do.

The flip side of the message is that they’re telling repubs and conservatives to register then get out and vote.

It’s a two-edged sword for them.


79 posted on 09/26/2012 8:26:28 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

no- the bumper stickers in uberliberal westchester county...the conversation with the latino was in manhattan...


80 posted on 09/26/2012 8:30:49 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: NoobRep

Good! That’ll give all the lazy ones (and we all know there are a whole lotta those) an excuse to stay home!


81 posted on 09/26/2012 8:32:36 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

And this time it’s on Wednesday anyway!!!!


82 posted on 09/26/2012 8:33:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wolfman23601
Resetting a random sample poll to ANY OTHER NUMBER means it is no longer meaningful, nor is it random.

Look here, I can draw those things up on my computer and print them out in any combination you want ~ and without going to all the expense and bother of calling people!!

83 posted on 09/26/2012 8:36:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NoobRep

Due to opening our demographic floodgates of self destruction and the crazy bent of youth today after we conceded academia to the Left I have no doubt that we likely have more Democrats than at any time since the New Deal but these poll samplings are unrealistic

The vote will be between 2008 and 2010

and it better be nearer to 2010

2010 was a 60-62 percent white turnout for the GOP

that is the mine

those are the votes

lets get digging


84 posted on 09/26/2012 8:40:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: NoobRep
LET ME SHOW YOU MY SHOCKED FACE.


85 posted on 09/26/2012 8:46:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: Tammy8
Problem is I don’t see any sign of enthusiasm for Romney either.

Fortunately that is offset by enthusiasm to vote Obama out of office. Remember, this is a silent majority. With the nasty political climate we are in, not many people are going to brag in the workplace or with their neighbors how they are going to vote against Obama. Like in 2010, they are just going to keep their mouths shut and speak at the voting booth.

86 posted on 09/26/2012 9:23:22 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: wolfman23601
I live where James Bird, Jr. was dragged to death...where a black would consider voting for a Republican is a miracle. They only know how to vote straight Dem.

Are there actually literate people in VA who consider voting for the worst POTUS ever?

Is "eye candy" the priority of VA voters?

87 posted on 09/26/2012 9:32:36 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SamAdams76

I actually do hear people at work say they are going to vote “for Romney” or “against Obama” funny thing is they are the same people that were giddy about voting for Obama last time. I take that as a good sign. You are right that most are not talking about it, even those I know will vote, and will vote against Obama.


88 posted on 09/26/2012 9:56:11 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Conservative12345

I was called last night and asked if I was willing to do a survey that would only take about 10 minutes of my time. It was a short 10 minutes, as soon as they found out I am not voting for Obama they were finished talking to me.


89 posted on 09/26/2012 10:00:08 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: LS

Okay, I must be slow, so answer this for me. You have 39% for D and 19% for R in 2008, for example, so what were the rest? Were fully 52% of absentee requests in 2008 from Indies, or am I completely misunderstanding this?


90 posted on 09/26/2012 10:08:49 AM PDT by MitchellC
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To: LS

Okay, I must be slow, so answer this for me. You have 39% for D and 19% for R in 2008, for example, so what were the rest? Were fully 52% of absentee requests in 2008 from Indies, or am I completely misunderstanding this?


91 posted on 09/26/2012 10:09:05 AM PDT by MitchellC
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To: Tammy8

had that very same call last night! i said Romney, and that was that. last week, i had an automated survey, and since they gave Obama as the first choice in their question i figured it for an obama poll. So then i figured ok, i am going to screw with them. They asked who i was voting for, i said Romney. They asked who i voted for last time, i said Obama. They asked what party i most closely identified with, i said DEM. Then for statistical purposes they wanted to know race, i said BLACK then they asked if i had a UNION affiliation, i said oh yea. and then if i’d held a union ofc so i said yeah, i was a shop steward. There were a ton of questions about whether the union was talking to me about the election or whether i had talked to other union members about the election. i answered no to all of those. BTW, i am a middleaged white woman who is registered and routinely votes republican. and i am a lawyer, who has never belonged to a union. I thought it was very interesting the LENGTHY questions as to demographics, far more than any given to substance.


92 posted on 09/26/2012 10:16:44 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: SamAdams76

i believe this too. Do you know anyone who previously voted for mccain but NOW, after the debacle of the past 4 years, is going to vote for Obama? Upon WHAT, logically, can they base this fallacy that there’s some incredible urge for Dems to get out and vote, more so than 2008, such that 2012 is going to be an historic dem turnout? now it MAY be an historic dem FRAUD effort, THAT i could see.


93 posted on 09/26/2012 10:21:38 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: lonestar

I can only speak for where I live. Romney will get 75% of the white vote and 0% of the black vote and the city will likely go close to 50/50. Northern Virginia and Virginia Beach have more limosine liberals and “swing” voters.


94 posted on 09/26/2012 10:25:29 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

Obama NEVER lived in a Black neighborhood. LOL!


95 posted on 09/26/2012 10:30:01 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: MitchellC
Okay, I must be slow, so answer this for me. You have 39% for D and 19% for R in 2008, for example, so what were the rest? Were fully 52% of absentee requests in 2008 from Indies, or am I completely misunderstanding this?

In Ohio we do not register by party. We are assigned party by the primary in which we chose to vote. Chose to vote in a GOP primary then you are GOP, for example. At least half of General Election voters do not vote in primaries, plus some chose to vote "issues only" in our primaries too. So it would not be altogether unreasonable for 52% to be Unaffiliated (while most of them probably do lean right or left, they just do not vote in a primary)

Also Democrats had a huge turn out lead in "early voting/absentee" last time. They will not have that this time.

96 posted on 09/26/2012 10:35:44 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If I had a son he'd look like B.O.'s lunch" - Rin Tin Tin)
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To: muawiyah

“The elections are won on turnout ~ not by converting the other side to vote for your guy.”

Does that work in states like Vermont, California, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts? Or even Utah or Oklahoma?

If not, why not?


97 posted on 09/26/2012 10:41:03 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: wardaddy

“2010 was a 60-62 percent white turnout for the GOP
that is the mine
those are the votes
lets get digging”

Good observation.

The problem is that with each successive election, from now to forever, the Republicans are going to have to win an ever-increasing share of “the white vote” just to stay afloat.

A difficult proposition, there are only so many votes to be won.

This is due to changing demographics that are (at least right now) all-but unstoppable.

Nevertheless, you’re right about diggin’ in the mine!


98 posted on 09/26/2012 10:49:36 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide
That's how it's done ~ even in those states. As you know there are 90,000,000 adult Americans who are eligible to vote but who usually don't. They will turn out for a likeable candidate they can respect.

The last Presidential race in 2008 had 69 million Democrats show up and 59 million Republicans. There are at least 35,000,000 Republicans in that mass of 90,000,000 nonvoting adults.

You get to them with intense campaigning early to get registered, and then to practice their vote in a party primary or caucus.

Guess we missed that train ~ better luck next time.

In 2008 the Democrats reported they'd nearly exhausted the number of nonregistered Democrats and this time they wouldn't actually have any jump in the number of registered Democrats since they're already registered.

Casual little statement eh! They're prepared for the election and know they can lose millions and millions of no shows and still win.

The Republicans have an achilles heel though. We have about 17 million Evangelicals (according to Ralph Reed) who are picky when it comes to voting. George H.W. Bush lied to them so they didn't show up and he lost. They don't vote for Obama. Numbers of them won't vote for Romney. At the moment nobody knows what they'll do this election but the Republicans made no effort to supplement their numbers with a massive voter registration campaign and adroit use of the primaries to hook the new voters ~ quite the contrary. Feb-May were wasted.

Kvetching about the polls is no substitute for pre-preparation for the election. You have to find a good candidate people will like and respect. You register as many new Republican voters as you can. You don't ever PO the Evangelical voters either. Then you go out; do your best in getting folks to the polls; and voila, Ronald Reagan wins ~ and even George W. Bush can win.

Because of the mistakes we have entirely too many who think the only message we have in this campaign is Anybody But Obamugabe ~ which is just so wrong. It doesn't have to be this way.

99 posted on 09/26/2012 10:56:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: xsmommy; SamAdams76

mccain got several million fewer votes than george w. bush. there’s a reason for that ~ is romney, a leftist, more acceptable than the manchurian candidate?


100 posted on 09/26/2012 11:03:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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