Skip to comments.Organs taken from patients that doctors were pressured to declare brain dead: suit
Posted on 09/26/2012 8:38:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
The New York Organ Donor Network pressured hospital staffers to declare patients brain dead so their body parts could be harvested and even hired coaches to train staffers how to be more persuasive, a bombshell lawsuit charged yesterday.
The federally funded nonprofit used a quota system, and leaned heavily on the next of kin to sign consent forms when patients were not registered as organ donors, the suit charged.
Theyre playing God, said plaintiff Patrick McMahon, 50, an Air Force combat veteran and nurse practitioner who claims he was fired as a transplant coordinator after just four months for protesting the practice.
The suit, filed in Manhattan Supreme Court, cited four examples of improper organ harvesting.
In September 2011, a 19-year-old man injured in a car wreck was admitted to Nassau University Medical Center. He was still trying to breathe and showed signs of brain activity, the suit charged.
But doctors declared him brain dead under pressure from donor-network officials, including Director Michael Goldstein, who allegedly said during a conference call: This kid is dead, you got that? the suit charged.
The patients family consented to have the organs harvested.
I have been in Desert Storm, Iraq and Afghanistan in combat. I worked on massive brain injuries, trauma, gunshot wounds, IEDs. I have seen worse cases than this and the victims recover, McMahon told The Post.
That same month, a woman was admitted to St. Barnabas Hospital in The Bronx still showing signs of life, the suit said.
In November 2011, a woman admitted to Staten Island University Hospital after a drug overdose was declared brain dead and her organs were about to be harvested when McMahon noticed that she was being given a paralyzing anesthetic because her body was still jerking.
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I suggest reading the other examples in the article, it seems like a real life "coma" (for those in rio linda there is a book called "coma" about organ harvesting via murder)
This is a strong reason to have an advance directive that says "keep me alive" to discourage this "not alive enough organ harvesting". This is going to damage the donation programs. They will have another "reform" dog a pony show and it will be business as usual. Until Obamacare, then both patients will be required to die.
This is the exact kind of antics that motivated me to remove myself as a listed Organ Donor when I renewed my Driver’s License.
I don’t need some surgeon with a God Complex putting my life in his hands.
I wonder how much profit there is in rehab vs a transplant.
In rehab you have one patient and can only bill for the one.
In transplants you can parse out the liver, two kidnies, cornias, perhaps a heart, sometimes the lungs, bone marrow, ligaments etc. So you have multiple patients and multiple profit points.
PLUS you have mega donors giving to transplant centers (PLUS TAXPAYERS in some cases)
A “ keep me alive” advance directive is a good idea, but it’s not enough. They’ll just declare you dead, like the examples listed in this article.
This is what the “abortion choice” mentality get ya.
...plus, rehab from brain injury occurs at other locations, so once the patient is stable enough to transfer, the hospital gets nothing more.
The only case where I could even begin to think of consenting to allow use of my or loved ones’ organs is if the Hospital would affirm, in a binding legal document, that the organs would not go to a Democrat or non citizen.
you include I refuse to be an organ donor language.
Interestingly adult stem cells (not to be confused with fetal) are looking to be a reliable treatment AND cure for some of these transplant issues.
Patrick McMahon had better be telling the truth, because if true, those monster doctors and everyone else involved are practicing murder medicine.
Thank you very much for pinging me.
I have given my family and lawyer explicit orders, I go into the cold earth with everything I have intact. No ghoul is stripping me to the bones on a whim or orders from some blood thirsty bean counter.
You want what I’ve got, then change the rules and let me sell them at a fair market price while I’m still around to enjoy the proceeds.
Organ recipients are paupers for the rest of their lives. The immune-suppressant drugs alone cost a fortune every month.
I have never signed and never will sign the organ donation box on my drivers license. Ubama has made us all slaves to the health care system while we are alive. I will be damned if I will allow them to sell my parts for profit after I'm dead.
I just removed 'organ donor' consent from my driver's license and from my living will.
organ redistribution, since there will be a central database. Your personal information will be mined for compatability for those more favored by the government. You vill be required to donate that extra kidney or part of your liver to a fellow komrade as a good collective citizen. Da?
It’s painful to recollect but upon the death of my father in 2008, my mother was set upon by high pressure ghouls via telephone, they would not stop. She consented just to get them to leave us alone. I do not like this, something is very wrong.
But nobody has to be killed to gather adult stem cells, so that’s not really a popular option now is it?
No, I’m afraid it’s not a good idea to agree to be an organ donor. You don’t always know what hospital you’ll end up in, or who your doctor will be.
My mother was in a Catholic nursing home for many years, with senile dementia. The nursing home took good care of her, and the nurses were great. But every once in a while she’d have to go to a nearby hospital, with a touch of pneumonia or the like. And every time that happened, I’d have to argue with the doctors there not to just kill her to save on expenses. I refused consent, and some of them spent a lot of time trying to persuade me to sign the consent forms.
Which raises another point. If you ever go into a hospital, you need a trusted family member to guard your back.
If you think this is going on in only a few hospitals you are wrong.
I am 100% certain this is the norm.
A friend of mine just donated a kidney to a co-worker. The recipient had no matches among the few family members who were eligible. Both are doing well!
Well the “affordable care act” with its death pannels is designed to reduce costs by ending the lives fo the elderly based on the burden they present.
This is bothersome. Whatever happened to death occurring when the heart stops beating???
i specified that nothing will be removed from my body without just and fair compensation. why should everybody in the chain of transplants make money except the source?funny how if everybody adopted this scheme, then i bet the supply would greatly increase...just sayin’
I don’t think it is the money, or at least not directly. I think it is utilitarianism.
The doctors are thinking, if this patient survives he will be severely brain-damaged (the worst fate imaginable to doctors, who have enormous pride in their intelligence, and tend to be control freaks.) OTOH, if this patient dies he can provide a better quality of life to half a dozen mentally competent people.
Sure the surgeries and the anti-rejection drugs will be really expensive but at least it is not futile, pointless spending in caring for a patient who is vegetative or severely brain-damaged.
And it’s really better for the family anyway - let it be a clean quick death with the consolation of having done something good in saving others, rather than a long, lingering, living death for someone who will never recover a meaningful life.
So do they justify themselves.
People in China also make aborted baby soup as a aphrodisiac.
These are human evils that are resultant of man-centered morality. Without God, we only answer to man. This is what is reflected in New York and Washington and Massachusetts and China and any “secularist” society/culture.
We have raised generations of children to believe life is disposable and that its importance/sanctity/dignity should give way to convenience, need, want, cost, difficulty, etc, all depending on someone else’s desires.
Obamacare will be just like the people who rammed it through and into law despite the wishes of Americans - an atheistic socialist culture of death.
This is why I am not an organ donor. I KNOW the stuff that goes on. When there are people involved, there are mistakes. An organ donor statement or DNR is like getting a power of attorney, in a way. You’ve given away your right to make that decision at the time it may matter.
I have kids, they know my wishes.
When I renewed by driver’s license earlier this year, I declined to designate myself as an organ donor for the first time in many years. I no longer have confidence in the hierarchy that controls such medical decisions, and particularly not since government involvement in medical decisions is constantly increasing.
There was a picture on Drudge the other day of a man they ran over in a road flattening machine because he would not get out the way while they were taking his land. I’m sorry I looked, it’s still with me.
I kept thinking, at least here they arrest you, rather than run you over.
sounds like the benevolent system “*His Divine Shadow” setup.
*from the SciFi show Lexx
Whoops should be clearer on that, the picture was in China.
Now I’m thinking, the driver is probably in trouble because they can’t harvest the flat guys organs...at least not his brains...
what is that from?
China? At least they have no influence on our leaders. It’s not like we’re indebted to them or anything. Oh, yeah, nevermind.
consider our new “collectivist medical care”
research grinds to a halt. No more advancements since government controls. (see Atlas Shrugged and the only thing government scientists devloped as a nifty new metal polish)
No gene therapy, no long term treatment. no eldercare. Just take your soma and die. (see brave new world for those from rio linda)
Having someone else decide or place a value on the life of another is end of freedom.
and what has caused so much damage in our past and present
Wait til government takes over.....no more lawsuits allowed...just death panel bureaucrats.
Btw..don’t ever sign a DNR order either. They will not lift a finger to do even the basic life saving measures if they have a dnr. Many hospitals already have designated ghouls roaming around pressuring old people andthe very sick to sign them. They did that to my mom a few years ago when she was in the hospital and some thought she was not going to make it(she lived another 3 years). I told them no and went to lunch..came back and they were back in the room pressuring her to sign!! I hit the fan to say the least. Just tell your family members your wishes in these kind of events. Don’t sign anything at the hospital and no living wills. Hubby and I each know one another’s wishes but should probably write it down, get a notary and just keep it on file at home. Putting it on the to do list right now....lol.
Good grief, I said at the beginning and the end of my piece that that is how the doctors and the organ procurement teams think, not how I think.
Right. Those DNR’s are licenses to kill and murder.
Sarah Palin was right all along. Obamacare is death panels.
I heard you and that is probably 99.9% accurate. I know some doctors that run that "valuation algorithm" in their heads and it shows.
My reply was the basic reason to counter that logic
People have no clue how the evil of Obamacare oops affordable care act, reaches their lives directly.
How many of the “a” list MSM think they only have to recieve organs and never be forced to give organs?
The best way around this is for some organization to come up with a means to identify individuals as having “internal organs not satisfactory for transplant.” Think of it as an “anti-donor card”.
Importantly, instead of saying *why* their organs are not suitable, they should provide a phone number, so that when some hospital calls, this organization can immediate notify their family that this hospital is hoping to harvest their family members’ organs, so they had better get there ASAP.
Eventually, they can come up with some bogus diagnosis for a disease very hard to detect, always lethal, only communicable through organ transplant, etc.
A possible example is early stage CreutzfeldtJakob (mad cow) disease. This would throw a major monkey wrench into their efforts to harvest their organs. But if the person survived, the organization could later say that the person got the card by accident, and never had the disease.
But there are probably better diseases to cite, tailor made to making organ transplant worthless, yet involving minimal other concern.
“and when our parental gubmint has full control of health care...the resources [family members organs] are needed for those less fortunate
This is just another arm of Obama’s “wealth redistribution.”Just think, your organs can be transplanted into one of Obama’s bums so he/she can continue to game the welfare system. Sorta a “new lease on life and a license to continue to steal from the productive members of our society.”
you mean like the finacial aid department tends to favor those who vote as registered democrats?