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Mars Was Once Covered In Hip-Deep Flowing Water
TBI ^ | 9-27-2012 | Jennifer Welsh

Posted on 09/27/2012 1:08:05 PM PDT by blam

Mars Was Once Covered In Hip-Deep Flowing Water

Jennifer Welsh
September 27,2012

The Curiosity rover's science team has come to a consensus: There was once a large amount of flowing water in Gale Crater. They can't say when, or for how long, but based on the types, shapes and sizes of rocks they've been seeing, they can say, finally, there was flowing water on Mars.

We aren't talking about a small amount of water either: The stream running from a canyon in Mount Sharpe called Peace Vallis could have been up to hip deep. The water eroded jagged rocks into smooth stones and deposited them in a fan shape across the floor of Gale Crater, Curiosity's landing site.

The team has examined rock outcroppings from three areas along the rover's path, all of which indicate that water had eroded rocks into gravel, then deposited them in layers. These layers cemented together forming what's called a conglomerate rock, similar to a rough cement.

NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

Curiosity first spotted these conglomerate rocks at her landing site, Bradbury Landing, where her thrusters blew away a top layer of dust from the surface of the Red Planet. This image has been white balanced to look more like it would on Earth.

NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

The second instance of conglomerate rock is here, at an outcropping named Link. This image was taken Sept. 2, and has been enhanced to show how it would look under Earth lighting conditions.

NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

NASA/JPL-Caltech/Univ. of Arizona

NASA/JPL-Caltech/UofA

NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS and PSI

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(I deleted most of the article so that I could post all the pictures presented. Click to the site for the entire article.)

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; curiosityrover; mars; nasa; space

1 posted on 09/27/2012 1:08:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

It does look like river rock in those bottom photos.


2 posted on 09/27/2012 1:10:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: blam
If they made cement without union labor then Obama will be after them big time.
3 posted on 09/27/2012 1:13:10 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: blam

If they sent that rover to DC, a much shorter and less expensive trip they would find that the District is covered with at least 5 feet of flowing excrement. And its getting deeper every day! JMHO!


4 posted on 09/27/2012 1:15:06 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: blam
Curiosity rover's science team has come to a consensus:

I'm always nervous about science and consensus in same sentence.

5 posted on 09/27/2012 1:16:02 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: blam

“Mars Was Once Covered In Hip-Deep Flowing Water”

Obviously, someone from Los Angeles stole it all.


6 posted on 09/27/2012 1:16:01 PM PDT by MeganC (January 20, 2013: The end of an error.)
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To: cripplecreek

It does look like river gravel. I really liked the orbital photo of the aluvial fan coming out of the creek. However, it appears that there are several meteor impact craters in the area that are more recent than the hydrological activity. That tells me that the flowing water ceased many millions, if not over a billion, years ago.


7 posted on 09/27/2012 1:16:53 PM PDT by henkster (With Carter, the embassy staff was still alive.)
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To: blam

All those Martians and their SUVs caused the Global Warming that evaporated all that water...............................


8 posted on 09/27/2012 1:17:28 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: blam

I remember thinking, the day they landed on the moon, that by the time I was in my forties we’d be on Mars. I was in my teens then.

Now I’m pretty sure I won’t live to see it.

Still, this stuff is exciting to me.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 1:23:16 PM PDT by marron
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Too bad they didn’t have Al Gore (Sarcasm)


10 posted on 09/27/2012 1:26:13 PM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: blam

Thank you for posting the photos.
I’m saving the article.


11 posted on 09/27/2012 1:26:25 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: cripplecreek

yes, the stuff on the lower left looks like typical Earth gravel


12 posted on 09/27/2012 1:26:34 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: blam

wow......


13 posted on 09/27/2012 1:29:37 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: blam

14 posted on 09/27/2012 1:29:43 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: blam

What are the chances that they would land in a spot where those particular rock formations were visible on the surface? Talk about a lucky breccia!


15 posted on 09/27/2012 1:34:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Raycpa

16 posted on 09/27/2012 1:35:12 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: marron

“I remember thinking, the day they landed on the moon, that by the time I was in my forties we’d be on Mars. I was in my teens then.”

I was thinking we’d have flying cars. I want my damn flying car!


17 posted on 09/27/2012 1:36:01 PM PDT by henkster (With Carter, the embassy staff was still alive.)
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To: blam
MarsFaker alert!

Anybody can see this is gravel and concrete. Mars my A$$.

18 posted on 09/27/2012 1:38:58 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: blam

Incredible pics. Nicely done post.


19 posted on 09/27/2012 1:41:40 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: blam

At least we found a good supply of rocks.


20 posted on 09/27/2012 1:46:30 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama at the UN: The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.)
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To: blam; KevinDavis; SunkenCiv

It’s rubble from a former alien society!


21 posted on 09/27/2012 1:47:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blam

So, either Mars had a lot of water and some planetary change evaporated it off, or Mars was like it is today, and a one time event flooded the planet, until Mars eventually returned to it’s barren self.

A one time planetary flood? Sounds mythical, no?

I’d be looking for SUV’s on Mars myself.


22 posted on 09/27/2012 1:49:55 PM PDT by prolusion
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To: blam

Great port Mr. Blam. I’d sure like to know what that greenish rock is and could it be polished. It’s a very pretty color, sort of turquoise. It would be way cool to have a piece of jewelry made of it.


23 posted on 09/27/2012 1:52:14 PM PDT by EggsAckley ("There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!")
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To: faucetman
Anybody can see this is gravel and concrete. Mars my A$$.

It's a sedimentary rock type called a conglomerate. They're very common on Earth.


[interlayered] conglomerate and sandstone, Point Lobos California.

"Conglomerate is a clastic sedimentary rock that contains large (greater than two millimeters in diameter) rounded clasts. The space between the clasts is generally filled with smaller particles and/or a chemical cement that binds the rock together."

http://geology.com/rocks/conglomerate.shtml

24 posted on 09/27/2012 1:56:13 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: blam

The asteroid Ceres, between Mars and Jupiter, may have more fresh water than Earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_%28dwarf_planet%29

Now, if there was just some way of getting Ceres to crash into Mars...


25 posted on 09/27/2012 1:59:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: prolusion

I am not an expert, but what I have read is that due to Mar’s weaker gravitational force and limited atmosphere, any surface water escaped into space.


26 posted on 09/27/2012 2:02:56 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: prolusion

I am not an expert, but what I have read is that due to Mar’s weaker gravitational force and limited atmosphere, any surface water escaped into space.


27 posted on 09/27/2012 2:03:08 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: blam

It would sure be interesting to get a big drill up there and see if there are any subsurface aquifers.


28 posted on 09/27/2012 2:11:01 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

Stories like this aren’t as fun to read without an artist’s conception of what the planet looked like with water, complete with drawings of the creatures that they speculate inhabited the water . . . . . .


29 posted on 09/27/2012 2:22:27 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: blam

Yep, the water was hip-deep on Mars. I had to put on my chest waders to go fishing there. Caught a nice five pound Rainbow. Oh.....wait a minute.....that was Idaho. I always get them mixed up.


30 posted on 09/27/2012 2:31:35 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Red Badger

Let me fix your statement:

“All those Martians and their DAMN SUVs caused the Global Warming that evaporated all that water................” LOL


31 posted on 09/27/2012 2:34:40 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: blam

This very much agrees with God’s Word.
Genesis, there was water above the firmament and below the firmament. God’s rightly divided Word is always right.
Thank you NASA.
P.S. True science will always verify God’s Word.
God established both.


32 posted on 09/27/2012 2:51:52 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: 11th Commandment
"I am not an expert, but what I have read is that due to Mar’s weaker gravitational force and limited atmosphere, any surface water escaped into space."

How was it originally 'attracted' there...the gravitational force hasn't changed?

Asteroids & comets?

33 posted on 09/27/2012 3:17:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Photobucket OR cows on Mars? You decide.
34 posted on 09/27/2012 3:18:14 PM PDT by RetSignman
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To: Red Badger
All those Martians and their SUVs caused the Global Warming that evaporated all that water...............................

John Brandenburg thinks that's what happened.

35 posted on 09/27/2012 3:26:26 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Mars Was Once Covered In Hip-Deep Flowing Water

Sure. Before they fixed the plumbing.

Oh.....wait a minute.....that was Idaho. I always get them mixed up.

Okay, one more time.

This is Mars:

This is Idaho:


36 posted on 09/27/2012 3:27:26 PM PDT by x
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To: blam

Either that is some soft rock (the pebbles) or they have been washed around for a while before being deposited. They’re pretty well rounded. While exfoliation might account for some of that, simple wear is likely.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 3:29:25 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: blam
Photobucket
38 posted on 09/27/2012 3:32:26 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GeronL

“It’s rubble from a former alien society!”
Actually, I think it might be flintstone...


39 posted on 09/27/2012 3:40:53 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Boogieman

“What are the chances that they would land in a spot where those particular rock formations were visible on the surface?”

Based on the satellite images, that is why we landed there, to find evidence of water. Not so much a lucky breccia, but a conglomeration of smart folks, gneisses even, working together!


40 posted on 09/27/2012 3:47:44 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: outofsalt

meet the flintstone... meet the flintstone... we;ll never know... not enough oxygen to make it spark


41 posted on 09/27/2012 3:52:11 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

lol.

There;s a drain


42 posted on 09/27/2012 3:57:55 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blam
Asteroids & comets?

YES, like earth.

43 posted on 09/27/2012 4:04:22 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 21twelve

Ah, well that explains it. It all seems so sedimentary now.


44 posted on 09/27/2012 4:06:06 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: henkster

I’m with you. We were promised flying cars by somebody, and I’m putting my foot down. No moon base or Mars colony until we’ve at least got some flying scooters in production. After that, we can talk about the robot butlers.


45 posted on 09/27/2012 4:08:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: RetSignman
Hmm that "rock" center field, just below the inset does look suspiciously like a cow skull in profile!


46 posted on 09/27/2012 4:40:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I think we are on to something here. lol


47 posted on 09/27/2012 4:46:47 PM PDT by RetSignman
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To: Smokin' Joe
Either that is some soft rock (the pebbles) or they have been washed around for a while before being deposited. They’re pretty well rounded.

Environmental conditions are very different on Mars. Without much of an atmosphere, micro-meteorites can more easily make it to the surface and help erode rocks. Without a global magnetic field, more cosmic rays can get through as well to slowly chip away at the surface. Also, wind erosion. Winds are very strong on Mars, particularly during certain seasons. On Earth, glaciers can also toss and turn large rocks, rounding them in the process. However, I agree with you, the rounded pebbles here were more than likely the result of stream bed erosion.

48 posted on 09/27/2012 5:26:12 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GeronL; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Thanks GeronL. The water's still there, these floods are very short-lived events stemming from impact (IMHO).



49 posted on 09/27/2012 7:37:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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