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To: Wuli
Well.

You DO realize that with the expropriation of Church property, the majority of the Catholic universities were closed as well as thousands of monasteries and countless Catholic religious, charitable, and cultural foundations? You do realize that the Reichsdeputationshauptschluss did to Catholics in Germany what the Revolution had done in France, what Cromwell had done in Ireland, and later, Plutarco Elías Calles in Mexico and the Communists in Poland? (To be clear, I'm not talking about massacres, I'm talking about attempted institutional annihilation.)

And accepting what is actually a meager repayment for stolen property, a repayment that comes 100% from the pockets of the Catholic citizenry themselves, you call "the church gets in bed with the state"?

It's far from the kind of prostitution implied by the "bed" metaphor. It's an accommodation which achieves only a fragment of justice -- far short of the entire liberty the Church actually needs to carry out her mission.

37 posted on 09/28/2012 5:39:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

sorry

this is another form of what the Roman Catholic Church was built on and most often seeks - tie-ins between the state and the church

as you so well described, it may in fact be a “debt” than can NEVER be repaid in full

which is another way of saying the “meager amounts” (9% of some individuals tax bill??) should be paid forever???

again, justifying to the Roman Catholic Church the perpetual “marriage bed” it loves to share with the state

think again just how all those properties were originally acquired over the centuries - mostly granted title by rulers (the state) in the first place

and anything the state gives it is, by it’s very nature, entitled to take back as it’s whims dictate, no?


46 posted on 09/29/2012 9:24:41 AM PDT by Wuli
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