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Tracking Ohio’s absentee ballot requests--THE POLLS ALL WRONG--AWESOME NUMBERS
RedState ^ | 09-28-2012 | Moe Lane

Posted on 09/28/2012 3:56:03 PM PDT by GilGil

The current narrative that Ohioan Democratic voters are as enthusiastic about voting in 2012 as they were in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; obama; ohio; polls; romney
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To: RIghtwardHo

You can tell a lie by the way it’s dressed up.

If Romney’s behind, just make the claim and end it there.

If you really believe what you’re saying, you won’t have to provide extra reasons, like “Romney’s a bad candidate” or “Romney messed up with the 47% comment” or the old “experts like Rasmussen say...”


101 posted on 09/28/2012 6:12:13 PM PDT by reasonisfaith
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To: RIghtwardHo

"The election is over. Romney lost and lost big." - RIghtwardHo 9/17/12

MSM=DNC=RIghtwardHo

102 posted on 09/28/2012 6:13:19 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: SamAdams76
...it just doesn't hold up under analysis.

Maybe under an analysis that simplifies an election down to just 11 voters, but that isn't the case. That simple illustration can't be extrapolated over hundreds of millions of voters. Your simplistic point just gets lost in the statistical noise.

In your analysis, my one little vote gets amplified to something like 150,000 votes, and you know that doesn't translate to real world numbers. If the presidential race came down to 10,000 votes either way, then maybe you'd have a point, but I don't believe it's going to be anywhere near that close.

I also don't think we holdouts represent much of a significant percentage of the center-right electorate. Most people who do vote this November, are going to come down squarely on one side or the other. Why even worry about us? Better to spend your time convincing some disillusioned Democrat that Mitt's his guy.

Sam, you and I are on the same page more often than not, but save your breath, friend. I'm just not going to give my vote to Mitt. I can't be talked into it.

103 posted on 09/28/2012 6:14:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Have a blast, but I'll be here to remind you that some of us kept our heads when so many were throwing their core values over the railing to support this weasel.

I'm sure you will be Wallflower. There are always plenty of do nothings who use all the time they have on their hands, not doing anything, to sneer at how those who are actually doing something are doing it all wrong.

Don't be a Wallflower Freepers! Find a campaign and volunteer. Help the local committee that poll watches, or drives voters to the polls, and if there isn't one, organize it and get others to help you.

104 posted on 09/28/2012 6:15:18 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: RIghtwardHo

And as for absentee ballots—the analysis involves comparing patterns.

If this election shows a significant difference in the pattern from 2008, you can extrapolate real information from it. What we see is democrats are showing a pattern of not voting this election.

You don’t need science for this, it’s common sense.


105 posted on 09/28/2012 6:18:01 PM PDT by reasonisfaith
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To: CommieCutter
Kick Obama out. Then kick Romney out. That’s the way I’m looking at it.

I'm already there, my friend :-)

There's no doubt that Obama's got to go. Of that, I am in 100% accord with everyone here. You guys just have to pull that lever without my help, because my core values will not allow me to vote for the fraud Republican. I'd rather have The Final Showdown now, than do that.

106 posted on 09/28/2012 6:18:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pilsner
There are always plenty of do nothings who use all the time they have on their hands, not doing anything, to sneer at how those who are actually doing something are doing it all wrong.

You just don't get it do you? Some of your fellow conservatives cannot give their votes to an abject liberal, no matter what his political affiliation is. Why is that so hard to understand?

Unlike you, I'm not afraid of Obama. I won't be cowed, bullied, shamed, pushed, pulled, or coerced into voting for his ideological twin out of fear. What's working on you, is not working on me. That's the difference.

I'd rather our side man up and quit playing this stupid game with the liberals. They're playing the game so smooth, that they have most of us voting for one of their own - just because he's sporting an R on his sleeve.

You think you're going to save your country by being punked like that? Guess again. The enemy is inside the freaking gate, and you want me to vote for him. That's insane. I won't vote for Obama, and I won't vote for his punk mate, Romney either.

I need to get off this conversation. It's just pissing me off. I know we need to boot the Kenyan, but people don't want to respect the fact that I can't get with supporting someone who walks and talks just like him.

Over and out.

108 posted on 09/28/2012 6:30:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

You are correct, we don’t respect you for staying home. But the truth is Texas can do it without you.


109 posted on 09/28/2012 6:38:56 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
You are correct, we don’t respect you for staying home. But the truth is Texas can do it without you.

Don't be a putz, Ditter. Read what I said. I'm not staying home.

And I'll thank you not to hold my beloved adopted state over my head like that. That's not the Texas way.

110 posted on 09/28/2012 6:43:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

If you are not voting for Romney and you said you would not, then you are staying home as far as I am concerned.

You can’t out Texas me.


111 posted on 09/28/2012 6:48:04 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
If you are not voting for Romney and you said you would not, then you are staying home as far as I am concerned.

Fine. That's your viewpoint, and you've stated it. Now are you going to try and get me to see things your way, or are you just gonna sit there tossing criticisms at me for disagreeing with you?

If it's the former, then maybe we can talk, but if it's the latter, what exactly is the point? Most of us have already talked ourselves blue in the face about Romney for months on end.

You can’t out Texas me.

Heh...I don't know about that. You might be surprised.

112 posted on 09/28/2012 6:55:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Google Elijah Isaacks Texas.


113 posted on 09/28/2012 7:05:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
Google Elijah Isaacks Texas.

Google George Bibb Crittenden Texas.

114 posted on 09/28/2012 7:23:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Not bad but I’ve got you beat. The family of Elijah Isaacks, according to the family legend, settled in east Texas in 1822. They received a land grand from the Mexican government One of his sons, not the one I am directly descended from, joined Stephen Austin and got a land grant on the Brazos river. Isaack was my maternal grandmothers ancestor, my maternal grandfathers family was here almost that early (1830) but they didn’t leave as many tracks. I only have family Bible to go by. On my father side they were here very early but I have no proof other than family stories.


115 posted on 09/28/2012 7:39:48 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Windflier

“Stop being knee-jerk about this. You’ve been here long enough to know that Romney was once persona non grata at FR. There’s no possible way that you missed Jim Rob’s hundreds of anti-Romney postings, so don’t act like I and others who feel as I do, have suddenly gone enemy.”

In short: I dont care.

Romney is the only thing standing between us and Obama for another 4 years. Unless you guys have something other than rants, that’s not going to change.

You screw with that, you are as far as I’m concerned no more of a friend than a left-wing Obama supporter.

After the election, you have my ear. Not now. That is how serious I’m taking this.


116 posted on 09/28/2012 7:46:17 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: GilGil
Hey....don't go getting pissy when somebody puts up a post that doesn't fawn all over your thoughts.

Just a gentle suggestion - OK?

Your 'keyboard warrior' thin skinned responses just deduct from your cred.

117 posted on 09/28/2012 7:53:28 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (No tagline until JR gets the snail out of this site....as he promised moons ago.)
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To: Ditter
That's a pretty respectable Texas family history. I've got documentation (and a certificate from Texas First Families) which shows that my G-G-Grandfather was born in Texas in 1844. That's prior to Texas statehood.

His father, George Bibb Crittenden, was captured in the Mexican-American war, and was only released when his father, John Jay Crittenden, US Attorney General, worked out a prisoner exchange with Mexico.

If your family hasn't already applied for Texas First Family status, you might want to check it out. Our family is quite proud of that heritage, as I'm sure yours is.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txsgs/TXSGS-New/Pages/Certificates.htm

118 posted on 09/28/2012 7:53:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Is reassuring Obama’s re-election the best scenario for the USA?

Voting is a civic duty is it not? How does throwing a tantrum and taking your ball and going home because you didn’t get your way beneficial to the country? I thought that part of being an adult or a good citizen was sometimes having to make decisions out of less than perfect options.

Yes, I have heard all of the arguments. NO MORE!! blah, blah blah. Or the better one, someone Romney will make things worse and then it will get blamed on the GOP.

Those are all strawman arguments. One, I do not think that Romney could be worse than Zero. I definitely didn’t support him in the primaries. But if given the choice between him and Zero, I choose Romney. At least with him there is a snowball’s chance of getting something done to fix this mess, even more so with a GOP House and Senate. With Zero, there is no chance, no matter who controls the House and Senate. Not to mention the fact the we WILL lose the SCOTUS for a generation or two. And we know that Romney is a US citizen and does not hate this country. And to think that he and Obama are the same in their views of how to run an economy and their qualifications is ignorant at best.

Obviously, we all needed to support our candidate in the primaries. But in the general election, we MUST be rid of Obama. If not, we can all pat ourselves on the back and gloat about how “principled” we are as the country we love circles the drain.

Besides, I do not know why sitting out the election because the “right” candidate (whatever that is)was not nominated is considered the only position of principle. My position is also one of principle, defeat Obama. When I vote against Obama, I will be doing so with just as much principle as the person who withholds their vote because they didn’t get their way.

This is nothing personal towards you, it is just so frustrating to see this sentiment so prevalent on this site. Do you think the average voter thinks this way? They will vote one way or the other. If true blue Conservatives won’t support the GOP candidate, why should they? In the end, politics is the art of the possible.

You have to hand it to liberals and Fabian Socialists for one thing. They understand incrementalism. They seem to be smart enough to understand that in the real world you usually don’t get everything that you want in one fell swoop. Why can’t Conservatives understand this?


119 posted on 09/28/2012 7:55:20 PM PDT by BizBroker (Democrats- Don't want 'em, Don't need 'em, Can't use 'em, Couldn't afford 'em if I did!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I hope you will be on the threads when Romney wins to eat your crow.


120 posted on 09/28/2012 7:56:16 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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