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My Decision To Buy A Gun (Female NM journalist/columnist)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | Sep 3, 2012 | Joline Gutierrez Krueger

Posted on 10/01/2012 12:13:54 PM PDT by CedarDave

So I almost bought a gun.

Let that sink in for a moment — that’s addressed not to you but to me, because I never would have expected to write those words until last week.

I was raised in an unarmed household where hunting was not seen as sporty and protection was a butter knife kept under the pillow.

My years as a crime reporter turned my gun ennui to gun disdain. ...

If you’ve looked into the shell-shocked eyes of enough bereaved parents, seen enough bodies with holes in them, enough blood, enough senseless death, violent moments of rage, foolish mistakes, it’s easy to conclude that no good can come from a gun.

And yet there I was last week with a very patient salesman named Alberto at Sportsmen’s Warehouse trying out firearms as if I was trying on shoes.

Why? I’ll spare you the details because frankly getting into specifics could be dangerous. Suffice it to say that someone dear to me has finally found the courage to leave a horrific relationship.

Domestic violence advocates say the most dangerous time for an abused partner is when he or she (mostly she) leaves. ...

And so I began to think that, given the similarities between the Landeau case and the one that has thrust me and my family into a tumultuous drama we never asked for, maybe it’s time to think beyond the butter knife under the pillow.

I’ll be damned if I’ll allow any of us to become the next “innocent bystanders.”

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: banglist
Somewhat dated but didn't see it posted.

Update to the story in today's Journal --

She didn't receive approval due to her background check coming back as "Delay." No indication as to why. Since it has been over thirty days, she again will apply. She says support for her decision was almost unanimous.

Column on Guns Triggered Broad Response

1 posted on 10/01/2012 12:13:59 PM PDT by CedarDave
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2 posted on 10/01/2012 12:17:01 PM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: CedarDave

If she was just delayed, if it’s not denied or approved, she can pick up the gun in three business days.

“If the FFL has not received a final determination from the NICS after three business days have elapsed since the delay response, it is within the FFL’s discretion whether or not to transfer the firearm (if state law permits the transfer). If the FFL transfers the firearm, the FFL must check “no resolution was provided within three business days” on line 21d of the ATF Form 4473.”


3 posted on 10/01/2012 12:17:25 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: CedarDave

My wife is active with Marine and military family support and troop support groups. She knows several people in Eloy, a little town 65 miles southwest of Phoenix, between us and the source of illegal Mexican drug mules and their armed thug escorts. My wife says that one of her friends from Eloy says that many Eloy citizens are now packing because of they feel threatened by dangerous criminal Mexicans.


4 posted on 10/01/2012 12:20:50 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: righttackle44

The first purpose of all governments, to protect its citizens, is typically the last thing it does. But at least it costs a lot.


5 posted on 10/01/2012 12:26:21 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: CedarDave
And so I began to think that, given the similarities between the Landeau case and the one that has thrust me and my family into a tumultuous drama we never asked for, maybe it’s time to think beyond the butter knife under the pillow.

And does she still feel that it is all "senseless violence" and "no good can come from owning a gun"?

6 posted on 10/01/2012 12:27:51 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: CedarDave
The motto "To Protect and Serve" is patently false.

The job police really have is "To Investigate and Arrest." Some LEOs are nice enough to do some service-ish stuff along the way, and most are probably nice enough folks if you aren't currently the subject of their professional interests...

But the harsh truth is this: When called, the police will probably get there AFTER the crime has already been committed, that is to say, after you and/or people you love have been assaulted or killed.

Protection from the police is mostly by luck, or if you're an important witness they want to have testify for the prosecution.

Your protection and defense is YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY FIRST!

7 posted on 10/01/2012 12:35:08 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: CedarDave
Ms. Joline Gutierrez Krueger, it is not about hunting. The 2nd Amendment is about allowing you the means to protect yourself and family from human predators. That means a firearm and the ability to use it.
8 posted on 10/01/2012 12:37:37 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Tijeras_Slim
If she was just delayed, if it’s not denied or approved, she can pick up the gun in three business days.

She pointed this out in the update, but said that this dealer (Sportsmen’s Warehouse) will not sell unless it comes back approved.

9 posted on 10/01/2012 12:38:34 PM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: CedarDave

A very short, side by side, 12 gauge shotgun for domestic use.


10 posted on 10/01/2012 12:40:16 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: CedarDave
"I was raised in an unarmed household where ... protection was a butter knife kept under the pillow." And I was wondering why she was writing as if she was agonizing over her decision to worship Satan.
11 posted on 10/01/2012 12:40:37 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tumblindice

There is an old Southern saying just for Libtard females such as this presstitute.

“Light dawns, said the ‘Possum”.

For the Blue State Urbans, the ‘Possum and the armadillo are the usual animal characters personifying stupidity.


12 posted on 10/01/2012 12:49:03 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: CedarDave
She pointed this out in the update, but said that this dealer (Sportsmen’s Warehouse) will not sell unless it comes back approved.

If this is the same "Sportsmen's Warehouse" that closed multiple stores in a business consolidation a few years ago, then I'd say they're overdue for another consolidation for poor business practices and overall ignorance of the realities behind the NICS. The store they had in Oklahoma City was good for firearms and general sporting goods so I was bothered when they closed it. It was a good alternative to Bass Pro Shops as far as a "big box" sporting goods store. Of course, there's always Academy, too.

13 posted on 10/01/2012 12:51:02 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: CedarDave

Now if only people like her would stop and ask themselves “I wonder what else those ignorant rednecks might be right about.....”


14 posted on 10/01/2012 12:53:27 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: CedarDave

What do know? Another lib doing a 180 when reality smacks her upside the head.

I can’t think of a single liberal “issue” that a lib wouldn’t do a complete turnaround on if his life or the lives of his loved ones hung in the balance (note, however, that usually he’ll only make the exception for himself or other libs in a similar situation).

OTOH, I can’t think of a single issue that a conservative person would change his mind about if in similar circumstances. What would make a conservative person decide it was okay to start killing babies, or abolish property rights, or give up his right to defend himself, etc.? NOTHING. That’s how you can tell us apart. In the end, the left has no core principles.


15 posted on 10/01/2012 1:18:17 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
What do know?

What do YOU know?

16 posted on 10/01/2012 1:22:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

She almost grew a spine. This lib knows subconsciously she’s brain damaged and doesn’t trust herself.


17 posted on 10/01/2012 1:25:06 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: LibWhacker
What do you know? Another lib doing a 180 when reality smacks her upside the head.

And in true Liberal fashion, she doesn't make a case for gun ownership. In fact she is still antigun. She only makes a case for HERSELF buying a gun.

18 posted on 10/01/2012 1:28:44 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: CedarDave

Dumb, dumb, dumb. She just announced to all the thugs, burglars and rapists in NM that she’s armed with a butter knife.


19 posted on 10/01/2012 1:36:39 PM PDT by bgill
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To: righttackle44

I have had a thought for a long time that the best cure for random shootings is to license a number of good people to legally carying a gun. The uncertanty of who is in pistol range should convince most bad guys that pulling a gun is a very bad idea.


20 posted on 10/01/2012 1:39:22 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: righttackle44

I have had a thought for a long time that the best cure for random shootings is to license a number of good people to legally carying a gun. The uncertanty of who is in pistol range should convince most bad guys that pulling a gun is a very bad idea.


21 posted on 10/01/2012 1:40:25 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: righttackle44

I have had a thought for a long time that the best cure for random shootings is to license a number of good people to legally carying a gun. The uncertanty of who is in pistol range should convince most bad guys that pulling a gun is a very bad idea.


22 posted on 10/01/2012 1:40:42 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: righttackle44

I have had a thought for a long time that the best cure for random shootings is to license a number of good people to legally carying a gun. The uncertanty of who is in pistol range should convince most bad guys that pulling a gun is a very bad idea.


23 posted on 10/01/2012 1:41:05 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: CedarDave
"Why? I’ll spare you the details because frankly getting into specifics could be dangerous. Suffice it to say that someone dear to me has finally found the courage to leave a horrific relationship.

Domestic violence advocates say...
"

I don't take advice from feminists, who advocate domestic violence. But it appears that the authoress has decided to get involved in domestic violence for someone else.

[familyop eyeballs evil paper targets and now-covered holes of hordes of hibernating, Plague-ridden prairie dogs. Such a dangerous world in the middle of nowhere, you know. ;-) ]


24 posted on 10/01/2012 1:41:49 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: CedarDave

One more reason not to buy from them (not that I do).


25 posted on 10/01/2012 1:45:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: CedarDave

I went out with this woman about 36 years ago. She didn’t get it then and she doesn’t get it now.


26 posted on 10/01/2012 1:48:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: MasterGunner01
The 2nd Amendment is about allowing you the means to protect yourself and family from human predators.

Actually, as has often been pointed out, the purpose of the 2nd is to ensure that the government does not have a monopoly on force, that the People provide a counterbalance.

Ability to protect against other than governmental human predators is a nice side-effect, but it was not the reason the 2nd was created.

27 posted on 10/01/2012 1:52:29 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: CedarDave
Yes, I am aware of studies indicating a gun in the home is more likely to be stolen, used to commit suicide or accidentally wound or kill some unintended victim than it is to be used in an assault upon the home.

As a journalist, Joline, you should do some real research and find out how bogus those studies are.

28 posted on 10/01/2012 2:02:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: CedarDave
Reminds me of the immortal words (well, close enough anyway) of ani-2A crusader Carl T. Rown: Let my opponents know that as long as this country is awash in guns, I will do whatever is neccessary to protect my family. Of course, he spoke these bold words after he shot at some children with an unregistered weapon at his home in Chi-town.
29 posted on 10/01/2012 2:08:29 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
thank you... and if they won't sell to her, goto another dealer
30 posted on 10/01/2012 2:21:08 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sherman Logan
I concur that resistance to an overreaching government is the primary reason for the 2A. However, I was addressing her in the terms she would understand — defense of self and family.
31 posted on 10/01/2012 2:32:18 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: CedarDave

All I can say is honey, buy the damn gun!
It’s the most feminist, impowering thing you can do...
Get a concealed carry permit and you will never be a victim...
Learn to use it properly and you will never live in fear...
Lastly, share this with sisters, it may save their life.....


32 posted on 10/01/2012 3:45:58 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: CedarDave

I read the comments and her responses over there. A lib has taken the first step over to our side.


33 posted on 10/01/2012 3:55:35 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: PapaBear3625
It didn't seem like it to me. The vibe was more like she was singling herself out for some kind of special anointment.
34 posted on 10/01/2012 11:19:04 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: SIDENET

Yep, true to the creed of liberal hypocrisy.

Hey, nice AK-47 on your homepage. I should’ve got one or two (or three) back in the old days when they were cheap, legal and the getting was good, or reasonably so here in California. But I kept putting it off, telling myself there was plenty of time... I said to myself, “What are they going to do, outlaw them?” :-(


35 posted on 10/02/2012 7:19:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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