Posted on 10/01/2012 1:15:14 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Call me Ishmael, is the opening sentence that opens the novel Moby Dick authored by Herman Melville. Ishmael, who is telling the story of Moby Dick, recounts that he is sailing to sea out of a sense of alienation and cultural inadequacy.
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Ever since the days of Napoleon's landing upon the shores of Egypt at the very end of the 18th Century and bringing with him the modern era to the Middle East, Islam has been unable to free itself from the shackles of inferiority and self-destructive primal rage that typifies the hatred of modern day Islamic radicalism against Western civilization.
In recent years, despite Israel being at the foci of much of what has been termed the "war of civilizations" between the Western world and Islam, Europe is undergoing a rapid demographic transition that will lead to a large Muslim population harboring an unchanging, hostile attitude toward their national communities.
Nicolai Sennels, a Danish psychologist who has had extensive experience with treating Muslim youths has identified four main differences that are important in order to understand the behavior of Muslims and how they interact with Western influences. Without dismissing the intrinsic value of multiculturalism or the need to identify with ones cultural roots Sennels has identified four main differences that are important in order to understand the behavior of Muslims. They concern anger, self-confidence, the so-called "locus of control" and identity.
Westerners are brought up to think of anger as a sign of weakness, powerlessness and lack of self-control.
In Muslim culture, anger is seen as a sign of strength. ....
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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
You mean NASA hasn’t made muslims feel better about themselves yet?
Oh, hell these people have been offend since Hagar’s son Ishmael was called the “crazy man in the desert”.
And they still act like their (whatever great) grandfather.
Interesting, but the author seems to be making some basic mistakes in confusing Muslims with Arabs. At the very end he corrects / reveals himself by stating that this is about Arabs and not necessarily Islam.
This is my take as well. Islam is not exactly the most peaceful religion, but the way most Indonesians practice it (and I have spent a lot of time there) it is really pretty laid back. Moreover, in stark contradiction to this gentleman’s thesis, Javenese culture puts a very high value on controlling one’s emotions.
Thus, it is perhaps the Arab cultural norms that should be condemned here. As an Arab religion, Islam reflects them, but I would venture to guess that Arabs were like this long before Muhammad talked to Gabriel.
Lastly, the author is also contradicting Muslims and Westerners. This is, for me, a bit of apples and oranges. He seems to want to avoid saying Christianity for some reason but that is the appropriate contrast to Muslims or to use Arabs / Middle Easterners in contrast to Westerners.
Either his thinking is sloppy or he has an agenda that goes beyond this mediocre analysis.
Interesting, but the author seems to be making some basic mistakes in confusing Muslims with Arabs. At the very end he corrects / reveals himself by stating that this is about Arabs and not necessarily Islam.
This is my take as well. Islam is not exactly the most peaceful religion, but the way most Indonesians practice it (and I have spent a lot of time there) it is really pretty laid back. Moreover, in stark contradiction to this gentleman’s thesis, Javenese culture puts a very high value on controlling one’s emotions.
Thus, it is perhaps the Arab cultural norms that should be condemned here. As a Arab religion, Islam reflects them, but I would venture to guess that Arabs were like this long before Muhammad talked to Gabriel.
Lastly, the author is also contradicting Muslims and Westerners. This is, for me, a bit of apples and oranges. He seems to want to avoid saying Christianity for some reason but that is the appropriate contrast to Muslims or to use Arabs / Middle Easterners in contrast to Westerners.
Either his thinking is sloppy or he has an agenda that goes beyond this mediocre analysis.
The “anger is respected” (bullying) explains why Obama was attracted to Chicago.
The “anger is respected” (bullying) explains why Obama was attracted to Chicago.
It may be simpler than that. As is amply illustrated in history and personal experience, sadism, pain, and fear are consistently useful in causing others to bend to one’s will.
80% are illiterate.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Voltaire
A little less inbreeding a few centuries back would have greatly improved them. And they’re still inbreeding. Last year there appeared very briefly an article about the Saud King had demanded a stop to inbreeding. It lasted in small newspapers for a day or so. They ARE still inbreeding. If they don’t watch out, eventually they’ll all have blue skin.
WRONG TITLE!!!
Arabs are not easily offended — MISLIMS are the onces that feel this need to constantly bitch and complain.
Please make a distinction between Arabs and muslims. Christian Arabs are being persecuted by muslim Arabs as you read this.
What do you expect from a group of people four days out from the Stone Age?
Because they are pinheads rooted in the 7th Century and bewildered by life in anything BUT the 7th Century!
Newt Gingrich has stated that “the Islamists cannot reconcile with a secular system of laws. They cannot tolerate a West that maintains a presence in the Arabian Gulf or that would defend Israel’s right to survive as a country. They cannot tolerate freedom of speech, freedom of religion, or freedom for women. In short, their demands are irreconcilable with the modern world. While trying to understand the volatility of millions of Middle Easterners taught from birth to hate America and to despise Israel, we in the West should be asking one basic question.
The real question to be asked is why we feel the need to pander and apologize to the most radical, violent and intolerant extremes around the world, to let them set the tone; a tone designed to stifle all criticism of Islam, to declare as blasphemy any attempt to reform radical Islam.
Every destructive emotion bears its own harvest, but anger’s fruit is the most bitter of all. Uncontrolled anger is a devastating sin, and no one is exempt from its havoc. It shatters friendships and destroys marriages; it causes abuse in families and discord in business; it breeds violence in the community and war between nations.
Its recoil, like that of a high-powered rifle, often hurts the one who wields it as well as its target. Anger makes us lash out at others, destroying relationships and revealing our true nature.
The history of the human race is largely the history of its anger.
- “The Journey” by Billy Graham -
http://www.beliefnet.com/Health/2006/03/Overcoming-Anger-And-Fear.aspx
Muslims ONLY respect POWER....ONLY POWER!!
I guess that is the rub. The radicals of Islam have the loudest voices and most visible actions (i.e. terrorism) thus, the "laid-back" muslims are overshadowed.
They spent the next 600 years under the Turkish boot ~ and then finally some Europeans moved in to liberate them.
True to their nature they then bit the hand of those who freed them.
When I was in Iraq, I decided the muslims acted like prisoners — you were an alpha, a beta, a gamma, or someone’s bitch.
We need to adopt the understanding of prison guards -— or wolf trainers -— when dealing with muslims.
You are alpha, or you are going to get it in the rear.
The West does not understand this.
If you can forgive the “Without dismissing the intrinsic value of multiculturalism...” pc-bs, that is an interesting article.
However, there should be one additional comment regarding the seemlying non-existent temper of the West...once unleashed, Americans have it in them to be brutal, and I will tell you plainly, this American has had enough.
You have to ask that question of Neville Chamberlain. It is/was called, “appeasement” and has never worked but idiots keep trying.
Why are they offended so easily? Maybe millions of them are just violent morons with IQs not much above potted plants.
“The anger is respected (bullying) explains why Obama was attracted to Chicago.”
The Arab cultural traits as he explains them bear a lot of similarities to American minority underclass culture....
Actually, they are quite smart about it. They do it because it works.
You should see the little monsters they raise in Saudi Arabia and the rest of the muslim world. You see these kids in the "Family" sections of restaurants just going nuts without any restraint. Their parents are probably first cousins. Then they grow up without any interaction with females except their own family members, of which a cousin might be their wife someday--and you get exactly what you describe.
Do Javanese and Indonesian mothers fondle their infant sons’ genitalia? This is done in Arab culture, and might explain a lot.
In the far East, Islam is considered Western. It believes in world conquest and proselytizing by force, which no self-respecting Hindu or Buddhist would want. Shinto-ists aren’t even sure why they do those rituals altogether, so to them the idea of proselytizing for Shinto would be absurd.
Just a few thoughts. Hope my analysis was not mediocre.
But do Christian Arab mothers fondle their infant sons’ genitalia, or is this practiced only among Muslim Arabs? How about them Druze?
Now that you mention it, that would also explain the behavior of Court Street lawyers for whom I’ve worked. They don’t hop around and fire shots in the air, but they do yell and scream a lot and sometimes throw things.
Islam is a JOY-LESS religion!!
Ever see an Arab wedding? Or the Ramalla lynch video? They manage to get some joy out of life.
“Actually they are mentally locked in the 11th century ~ that’s when the Turks took them over and turned all the Arabic, Berber and Kurdish speaking areas in the Middle East into an enormous tax farm.”
Dates, Muawiyah. The Turks prevailed against the Maluks and Persians in 1516. Until then, they were just a big power in Turkic-speaking regions. To be fair, the Mamluks and their predecessors were no big bargain, either.
They spent the next 600 years under the Turkish boot ~ and then finally some Europeans moved in to liberate them.
Please. The Europeans might have incidentally paved a road or two and built an occasional hospital, but the last thing on their minds was liberating anyone. They wanted oil. They wanted geopolitical hegemony. They wanted to screw each other. There were some Arabs in the area where they wanted hegemony, oil, and all that, and since there were a lot of them, they thought it wise not to screw them, but instead let them screw the Jooos! to whom they’d promised a homeland, but “liberate” the Arabs? They simply picked out which aristocratic families could screw which peasants, where. The Saudis got the Hijaz. The Husseinis got Iraq, “Trans-Jordan” and didn’t get what was left of Syria because the French got that, and their adolescent nephew Haj Amin al Husseini got Jerusalem, provided he incited enough anti-Jewish riots. Liberate? Please.
Wouldn't that make them Hindu holy people?
NO, DAMMIT! This has got to be redressed! How dare they not make Arabs feel better about themselves? Send them up to conquer Mars, immediately!
That’s the escape plan. They’ll just disappear into the Hindi sub-continent and become mendicants.
And threaten to hold their breath until they turn blue.
“You should see the little monsters they raise in Saudi Arabia and the rest of the muslim world. You see these kids in the “Family” sections of restaurants just going nuts without any restraint. Their parents are probably first cousins. Then they grow up without any interaction with females except their own family members, of which a cousin might be their wife someday—and you get exactly what you describe. “
Let’s not forget that bratty little Prince Abdullah. His father leaves him in care of Tintin and Captain Haddock, they go off on an adventure, and next thing you know, poor Nestor is tied to a chair.
I see you lurking in the background...
Did Hirschman & Levine take in a junior partner after I left? You’ve met them?
The specific cause of the Crusades was the Seljuk occupation of Egypt (and other places) and the cessation of the pilgrimages to the holy land, etc.
That's all 11th and 12th century stuff.
The Turks and the Europeans were not at all interested in the oil resources at the time.
Napoleon came with a number of ideas ~ from the French Revolution, over 200 years ago. That was before the internal combustion engine was a big deal. Actually trains were still a novelty.
Do not take 20th century issues with the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and extend them back into the 1700s and 1800s ~ it was a whole different game then, and the Arabs were not their own men at the time.
Little wonder that GOPe hates Newt so much. Muslims are varelse. It is blaphemy to point this out.
Curse you, undetected HTTP code!
“Good grief, get your dates correct yourself ~ the Seljuk Turks took it all over by 1200. Mongol rule overlaps and is coterminous with (and involved the same guys) as Turkish rule.”
1267 was when the Mamluks forbade all Jews above the 7th Step of the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron. I know, because there’s a plaque on the Seventh Step attesting to it. The prohibition remained in place until 1967. Ergo, the Mamluks were still in business.
The actual conquest of Egypt and the entire Mamluk empire was accomplished in 1516 by Salim the First, as per President Yitzchak ben Tzvi’s well-researched book: Hayishuv Hayhudi Bitkufat Ha’atomanim. I haven’t finished it yet (it’s dry, heavily anotated, and in Modern Hebrew), but have gotten that far.
This anger goes all the way back:
11 And the angel of the Lord said to her,
Behold, you are pregnant
and shall bear a son.
You shall call his name Ishmael,[c]
because the Lord has listened to your affliction.
12 He shall be a wild donkey of a man,
his hand against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen.
(Genesis 16:11-12)
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