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Sen. Graham: Obama move on defense layoff notices 'patently illegal'
The Hill ^ | 10/01/12 | Jeremy Herb

Posted on 10/02/2012 2:54:59 AM PDT by Libloather

Sen. Graham: Obama move on defense layoff notices 'patently illegal'
By Jeremy Herb - 10/01/12 02:45 PM ET

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) says that he will do anything he can to block the Obama administration from reimbursing defense contractors for severance costs if the firms don’t send layoff notices to employees.

The Obama administration issued guidance Friday that said defense firms’ costs would be covered if they have to layoff workers due to canceled contracts under the across-the-board cuts set to take effect Jan. 2.

The layoff notices have become a politically charged issue because they could have come just four days ahead of the election because of a 60-day notice required by federal law for mass layoffs.

Graham and other Republicans were livid after the Obama administration issued the guidance on Friday telling contractors that their legal costs would be covered due to canceled contracts under sequestration, but only if they did not issue layoff notices before sequestration occurs — and before the November election.

“I will do everything in my power to make sure not one taxpayer dollar is spent reimbursing companies for failure to comply with WARN Act,” Graham told The Hill in a phone interview Monday. “That is so beyond the pale — I think it’s patently illegal.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defense; graham; illegal; layoffs; sequestration

1 posted on 10/02/2012 2:55:15 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Buying an election piece by piece.


2 posted on 10/02/2012 3:03:05 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Libloather
Yet does this idiot Graham file any type of protest, legal challenge....

NO!

he is just another POS politician!

3 posted on 10/02/2012 3:05:05 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: Libloather
It is too late now but we are in the run-up to the debate and one can only ask where the hell are the surrogates raising issue after issue such as this illegal action by the Obama administration to set the predicate for an attack by Romney tomorrow night?

This is perhaps one of the most inept political campaigns since-well since John McCain.


4 posted on 10/02/2012 3:07:21 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Libloather

Well then why don’t you fax a proposed Article of Impeachment over to John Boehner, Lindsey?


5 posted on 10/02/2012 3:12:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: nathanbedford

Top of the day to you General!

It is not so much the campaign but the Republican Establishment as a whole doesn’t have the stones to lead. As we know, a leader does not need to know all the answers but he is adept at knowing where to find them at a moments notice.

We have had the warnings for months now that he was going to pull this. A leader would have nipped this in the bud long before he did it. Ghomer Graham is just doing his typical reactive whining after he is bitch slapped, yet again.

Obama is operating from that phrase that it is easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission. The establishment operates from the position to shoot spit balls at an issue after an action because they know they can do nothing about it then.

It is called leading from the rear and Obama is trying his damnedest to be better at it than the Republican Establishment. It is a toss-up at who is better at it.


6 posted on 10/02/2012 3:24:35 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Libloather

Oh...but millions can be funneled into his precious “We Can’t wait” programs for solar energy , light rail in 6 states...etc.


7 posted on 10/02/2012 3:28:17 AM PDT by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Libloather

beat me to it.....


8 posted on 10/02/2012 3:34:08 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: nathanbedford

Are you channeling Pat Caddell. He calls Republicans the stupid party. Pat’s presentation on 21 September at Accurracy in Media was OFS.


9 posted on 10/02/2012 3:35:46 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Near term Obamacare 'Unit")
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To: Libloather

And WHO is going to STOP our DICTATOR???? NO ONE CAN.....Eric Holder is even WORSE than OBAMA!


10 posted on 10/02/2012 3:39:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

OFS?


11 posted on 10/02/2012 3:52:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Libloather
“The government said it would cover legal costs if contractors are forced to slash their payrolls because of the looming $109 billion in automatic cuts next year and are alleged to have violated the WARN Act.

The federal WARN Act requires businesses with more than 100 employees to notify workers at least 60 days in advance of a mass layoff or plant closing. Some states require more notice.

“Any resulting employee compensation costs for WARN Act liability as determined by a court, as well as attorneys’ fees and other litigation costs (irrespective of litigation outcome) would qualify as allowable costs and be covered by the contracting agency, if otherwise reasonable and allocable,” the Office of Management and Budget said in its guidance.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/28/news/economy/spending-cuts-fiscal-cliff/index.html

So obama promises to pay the legal fees resulting from companies breaking the law. Just to keep himself from looking bad for a few more months.

But there is no mention of the human misery to millions of employees and their families caught by short-notice layoffs and terminations. THAT is what the WARN act was supposed to protect against. Giving people adequate notice to prepare for unemployment.

Maybe a free obama phone will provide some solace.

12 posted on 10/02/2012 3:56:32 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: Libloather

So what are you going to do about it Lindsay? You and your so-called opposition party have given him free reign thus far. Either you stop him or shut the hell up.


13 posted on 10/02/2012 3:59:27 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: SERE_DOC

These Congress critters are just as guilty as Obama for not holding him accountable for anything.


14 posted on 10/02/2012 4:22:36 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think it is a Union job. I mean, BushJr said it was the Mexicans to do the job that “Americans” will not do, because instead of blacks on welfare, he could only say “americans”, while liberals go on destroying by demanding a normalcy to slavery through special slave rights for gays and women and minorities in retribution, so as to later on make it a slave right for the upper up in power. It’s called redistribution and big government until it collapses to a super-minority of union thugs in power.


15 posted on 10/02/2012 4:23:56 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Having been in the pre-PC military, I took it to mean “Out-F’n-Standing!”


16 posted on 10/02/2012 4:24:02 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: nathanbedford

Simplified for the soldiers in your army...Romney’s campaign sucks....


17 posted on 10/02/2012 4:24:34 AM PDT by databoss
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To: SERE_DOC

Indeed, another Tienanmen massacre fibbing, until Obama and his crew are finally getting their MFN status because they all want us to be like Red China, ie. easy to propagate and dum down.


18 posted on 10/02/2012 4:25:45 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: nathanbedford

What do they think at Lockheed?

AFter the election Obama will rescind his bribe if it is too costly.

Bunch of eff’ing morons.


19 posted on 10/02/2012 4:28:11 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Roccus

Thanks. Sounds about right.


20 posted on 10/02/2012 4:28:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: nathanbedford

I think that all patriots and conservatives will wake up Thursday morning with a hell of a hangover and tired from a loss of sleep from the nightmare they watched Wednesday night when they realized the fact that the Republican party signed our nation’s death warrant when they put “the fix” in to have Romney represent them in this political race.

I will have my asbestos underwear on beginning tomorrow night but in the end (excuse the pun) all will see what a weak and naive candidate Romney is.

He has never lived or experienced life in any other social level below opulence and can’t possibly think in terms below that level. Furthermore, he has never had to “street fight” an actual battle...and this is his first exposure to “street fighting” and will both lose the fight and embarrass all conservatives who backed him in the effort.

Tomorrow night will be a horrible thing to witness but I will force myself to watch it.


21 posted on 10/02/2012 4:43:20 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Libloather
Sen. Graham: Obama move on defense layoff notices 'patently illegal'

So????

It isn't the first thing he has done in office that was 'patently illegal' and, if re-elected, he will ignore inert Congress and Courts and implement whatever he wants.
22 posted on 10/02/2012 4:50:22 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Libloather

If this is handled by the GOP like everything else has been, this bit of bluster from Graham will be the end of it. He’s swung his purse, now he’ll quietly sit back down to catch his breath until the next outrage.

In truth, I think the GOP likes the many precedents that have been set by this administration and Reid’s Senate. They’ve given the GOP many, many new toys and workarounds to play with should they ever regain the presidency/senate.


23 posted on 10/02/2012 4:58:04 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: TomGuy

Yes, and if congress actually controlled the purse strings as it’s supposed to do, the executive branch wouldn’t have all this money to throw around.

Instead, they shovel money hand over fist in Obama’s direction, then whine when its abused.


24 posted on 10/02/2012 5:01:37 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: nathanbedford

What surrogates?

Surely you do not believe that McCain, Graham, Boehner,or McConnell are surrogates.

Certainly they should be, but I haven’t heard a word from the Speaker in a long time McConnell is in bed with harry Reid, this is the first I have heard from Little Lindsey and it is horse dung,he will do nothing.

Romney is running without backing from the party RINO’s that picked him.


25 posted on 10/02/2012 5:02:19 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: DH

Despite the melodrama it’s just going to be a debate and Romney has been in plenty. Guess we will see.


26 posted on 10/02/2012 5:16:31 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: SERE_DOC

correct... he does nothing.


27 posted on 10/02/2012 5:26:08 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Libloather
Graham:"Obama move on defense layoff notices 'patently illegal' "

Then why isn't he put in JAIL! I'm SICK if hearing "it is illegal" or "it is unconstitutional" ... So what? Nobody does anything about it. I wonder why there are laws, and even wonder why there is a Constitution, people "break" the law, as in this case and NOTHING HAPPENS. Graham is a lawyer... File a lawsuit... Have him arrested...DO SOMETHING. Don't keep pointing out to me he or Holder broke the law... He'll, I know that and I'm not a lawyer. So to Lindsey and all the others pointing out the illegality and unconstitutional acts... Save your breath. If you aren't going to do something about it, then just shut up. I don't need to be reminded over and over about the corruptness if our government. It makes me sick ... And I don't need to get "sicker" !!!

28 posted on 10/02/2012 5:45:27 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: Libloather; sickoflibs
what i dont understand, if the notice is a legal requirement, and someone is blatantly advocating/coercing the breaking of the law, why isnt someone advocating/pursuing charges ???

yeah, i know...

29 posted on 10/02/2012 6:23:57 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Libloather; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; G.Love; ...
Typical Lindsey: swishing, cojonesless, understated.

"Patently illegal." Is that all there is Linda? Have you fired all your guns? You are, truly, just a clown

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.

h/t to martin_fierro for the graphic

30 posted on 10/02/2012 6:48:04 AM PDT by upchuck (I miss my dog Snoopy. May 16, 1997-September 24, 2012 -- 15 years, 4 months. Forever in my heart.)
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To: Gilbo_3; Libloather
RE :”what i dont understand, if the notice is a legal requirement, and someone is blatantly advocating/coercing the breaking of the law, why isnt someone advocating/pursuing charges ???
yeah, i know...

You mean why isnt Eric Holder pursuing charges against his master? You need to ask?

In this case it sounds like the employees can sue the contractors and so Obama claims the Feds will pony up cash to pay them for any claims made on them, only if the automatic budget cuts actually go through. The conventional wisedom is the Rs will surrender on somethjing to avoid these cuts.

My question is : is this a credible promise to the contractors?

Are they just doing this because they are intimidated?

31 posted on 10/02/2012 6:51:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs
My question is : is this a credible promise to the contractors?

they better get it in writing...wait, what ??? you say the *law* is already in writing...???

so much for the feet to the fire, even when the enemy is occupying the totus...

32 posted on 10/02/2012 7:32:39 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Libloather

OK, Lindsay, *DO* something about it!


33 posted on 10/02/2012 7:34:08 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”so much for the feet to the fire, even when the enemy is occupying the totus...

you sound very upset about this. I bet you'd vote for Satan himself to remove those two Obama/Holder from office.

AHAAAH, got ya :)

34 posted on 10/02/2012 8:06:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: TChris

Yeah Right! Grahamnesty is bigger on talk than action. I’m sure his limp wristed flailing will cause the Democrats to cave(Over with laughter as usual!!)


35 posted on 10/02/2012 1:39:03 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Bon mots

36 posted on 10/02/2012 1:44:57 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax

37 posted on 10/02/2012 1:57:02 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Libloather

WTF?????????

TELL THEM TO DISOBEY THE LAW AND THEN PROMISE TO COVER THEIR EXPENSES FOR DOING SO????


38 posted on 11/01/2012 8:45:40 AM PDT by Mr. K (What The World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Nickname

Well, Today is Nov 1.

Looks like Lockhead is TAKING THE BRIBE!!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 11/01/2012 8:47:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (What The World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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