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Obama Won The Debate Americans Needed To Hear (Romney: All Show and No Substance)
Black Star News ^ | 10-04-12 | Chika Onyeani

Posted on 10/04/2012 1:13:07 PM PDT by presidio9

went to the East Orange City Hall this evening to listen to the Obama-Romney debate. When the debate set was tested, it was discovered that people couldn’t hear well when it was set on CNN, and then it was switched to MSNBC.

When the two candidates appeared, I saw a cool and collected Barack Obama. I saw a President who had his facts; I saw a Romney who was rude, testy, nebulous, and I saw a moderator who allowed Romney to walk all over the place without asking him questions. I saw Obama who provided facts, and spoke about what his administration has accomplished and what it intends to accomplish in the next four years.

Romney was totally incoherent at times, denying every plan he had put forward before. The moderator, Jim Lehrer, did a very poor job of not restraining Romney from interrupting Obama all the time. It was a disgraceful performance on his part. In fact, at times, you saw his eyes were closed, and he should have realized that he was too old to do the job. As far as the crowd at City Hall was concerned, Obama won the debate hands down.

It was a shock when we returned home to hear the pundits on MSNBC shouting about Romney winning the debate. Already, the same punditry class is beginning to question whether by not providing specifics on anything he has promised to do, if Romney really did himself any good. His was a performance without substance. It would appear from the commentatoriat that they prefer an individual who was all show and couldn’t provide any details of what he intends to do for the country.

I believe President Obama will rebound from whatever damage the critics believe he inflicted on his campaign. Many times in 2008, he was counted out, but rebounded. As Republican staunch Romney defender, Ari Fleischer noted, “One big caveat. Romney won, but winning debates doesn’t always mean winning votes. But in a close race, every vote counts.”

The pundits can say whatever they want, but the fact remains it is the voters who will decide. Already, according to Susan Saulny’s article in The New York Times, “At Debate-Watching Party in Suburban Ohio, Voters Are Less Than Thrilled,” and she went on to recount how those people were not swayed by Romney’s performance especially for not providing specifics. Read it below:

Jeremy Gardner, 32, a software developer and independent voter, hosted a small viewing party in a cozy living room where his two Chihuahuas were jumping around, looking truly excited.

Before the debate, the tensions were building. (There were partisans in the room.)

“I’m getting an eye twitch!” said Heather Jernigan, Mr. Gardner’s sister-in-law. An Obama supporter, she worried that even if he did well, his opponents would give his performance a negative review. “Rainbows could shoot out of his ears and it wouldn’t matter,” said Ms. Jernigan, who works for an insurer.

Mr. Gardner was open to being swayed, but said he was leaning toward Mr. Obama.

Brent Jernigan, 48, a business consultant who is married to Ms. Jernigan and likes Mr. Obama, is the ultimate solo fact checker. It was his fact-checking on Facebook that cost him his aunt’s friendship. What did those gathered here want out of the candidates’ performance?

“I want to see an actual plan from Romney,” Mr. Jernigan said. “I’d like to see Obama be very forceful in defending his own actions as president. And I wouldn’t be opposed to a highly entertaining moment from Romney, something like, ‘I can see Russia from my house!’ ”

After the debate, the group did not shift their views. “I don’t know the specifics of these things, so some of it didn’t mean a lot to me,” said Mr. Gardner, the host. “Like I said before we started, I hate the ‘I’m going to repeal what you did and do something that’s better!’ Who doesn’t want to hear that? Basically nothing changed for me.”


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; alternateuniveres; asskickings; stilltheone
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1 posted on 10/04/2012 1:13:16 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

The person who wrote this would have made a wondeful O.J. juror.


2 posted on 10/04/2012 1:15:04 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: presidio9

Did this twit watch the same debate we did?


3 posted on 10/04/2012 1:15:07 PM PDT by wny
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To: presidio9

Apparently there were two debates last night, because this is not the one I saw.


4 posted on 10/04/2012 1:16:01 PM PDT by Liberal Bob (looneyleft.com)
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To: presidio9

Yikes...where did you have to scrounge to dredge up this mess of a review?


5 posted on 10/04/2012 1:16:17 PM PDT by FightforFreedomCA (I WILL be voting on November 6th to evict the current pResident.)
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To: presidio9

Black Star News....not there’s a name you can believe in....


6 posted on 10/04/2012 1:17:01 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: presidio9

The same mindset that reacts in surprise to terrorist attacks on our embassies in Libya and Egypt, and then tries to blame it on a short film nobody ever heard of (not even in lots of countries where protests happened).


7 posted on 10/04/2012 1:17:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: presidio9

Too much of BHussein’s drugs?


8 posted on 10/04/2012 1:17:17 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: presidio9
I believe President Obama will rebound from whatever damage the critics believe he inflicted on his campaign. Many times in 2008, he was counted out, but rebounded.

Then she has a vastly different memory than me, I seem to remember Obama essentially coasting to victory unhindered and I don't remember him being "counted out" once. Is this the liberal attempt to rewrite history and make Obama the "comeback kid"?

9 posted on 10/04/2012 1:17:25 PM PDT by apillar
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To: FightforFreedomCA

This Writer is king of the 47%. What a tool.


10 posted on 10/04/2012 1:18:12 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: presidio9
If you are one of the countless gadflies who have made it your (stated) mission in life to get me banned from FR, I predict that I will still be here long after you are gone.

Your comment on this 'article' would indeed be interesting.

11 posted on 10/04/2012 1:18:13 PM PDT by IbJensen (Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: wny

Dr. Chika Onyeani

12 posted on 10/04/2012 1:19:17 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Who goes to a city hall to watch a debate?

Must have been free food.


13 posted on 10/04/2012 1:19:35 PM PDT by freedomlover
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To: apillar
Then she has a vastly different memory than me, I seem to remember Obama essentially coasting to victory unhindered and I don't remember him being "counted out" once. Is this the liberal attempt to rewrite history and make Obama the "comeback kid"?

In fairness, I am still amazed that Hillary Clinton failed to win the nomination in 2008.

14 posted on 10/04/2012 1:20:49 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: illiac

American press as of late reminds me of one of my favorite passages from 1984...

Suddenly there sprang into his mind, ready made as it were, the image of a certain Comrade Ogilvy, who had recently died in battle, in heroic circumstances. There were occasions when Big Brother devoted his Order for the Day to commemorating some humble, rank-and-file Party member whose life and death he held up as an example worthy to be followed. To-day he should commemorate Comrade Ogilvy. It was true that there was no such person as Comrade Ogilvy, but a few lines of print and a couple of faked photographs would soon bring him into existence.

Winston thought for a moment, then pulled the speakwrite towards him and began dictating in Big Brother’s familiar style: a style at once military and pedantic, and, because of a trick of asking questions and then promptly answering them (’What lessons do we learn from this fact, comrades? The lesson — which is also one of the fundamental principles of Ingsoc — that,’ etc., etc.), easy to imitate.

At the age of three Comrade Ogilvy had refused all toys except a drum, a sub-machine gun, and a model helicopter. At six — a year early, by a special relaxation of the rules — he had joined the Spies, at nine he had been a troop leader. At eleven he had denounced his uncle to the Thought Police after overhearing a conversation which appeared to him to have criminal tendencies. At seventeen he had been a district organizer of the Junior Anti-Sex League. At nineteen he had designed a hand-grenade which had been adopted by the Ministry of Peace and which, at its first trial, had killed thirty-one Eurasian prisoners in one burst. At twenty-three he had perished in action. Pursued by enemy jet planes while flying over the Indian Ocean with important despatches, he had weighted his body with his machine gun and leapt out of the helicopter into deep water, despatches and all — an end, said Big Brother, which it was impossible to contemplate without feelings of envy. Big Brother added a few remarks on the purity and single-mindedness of Comrade Ogilvy’s life. He was a total abstainer and a non-smoker, had no recreations except a daily hour in the gymnasium, and had taken a vow of celibacy, believing marriage and the care of a family to be incompatible with a twenty-four-hour-a-day devotion to duty. He had no subjects of conversation except the principles of Ingsoc, and no aim in life except the defeat of the Eurasian enemy and the hunting-down of spies, saboteurs, thought-criminals, and traitors generally.

Winston debated with himself whether to award Comrade Ogilvy the Order of Conspicuous Merit: in the end he decided against it because of the unnecessary cross-referencing that it would entail.


15 posted on 10/04/2012 1:20:49 PM PDT by wareagle7295
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To: presidio9
“Rainbows could shoot out of his ears and it wouldn’t matter,”

I'd pay to see that.....considering the size of those ears, that would rival the best 4th of July show ever.

16 posted on 10/04/2012 1:20:57 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: presidio9

Don’t ever underestimate the ability of bias to trump facts and logic.


17 posted on 10/04/2012 1:22:17 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: IbJensen
Your comment on this 'article' would indeed be interesting.

No comment necessary, as far as I'm concerned.

But thanks for taking the time out of your no doubt busy day to visit my homepage.

18 posted on 10/04/2012 1:22:30 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: FightforFreedomCA

Obviously a FREE PHONE RECIPIENT.


19 posted on 10/04/2012 1:22:59 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: presidio9

I believe Chika Onyeani is a popular Klingon name.


20 posted on 10/04/2012 1:23:08 PM PDT by Cindy of Nashville (What has the Democrat party become???)
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To: presidio9

LOL, dude obviously had Romney mistaken for Obama and vise versa!


21 posted on 10/04/2012 1:23:40 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: presidio9

22 posted on 10/04/2012 1:23:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: presidio9
This writer is another example of the failure of affirmative action:

Like this DumbA$$ wanna be writer!

23 posted on 10/04/2012 1:25:02 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: illiac

The person who publishes Black Star News also publishes something called The African Sun Times - another racist waste of bandwidth. The Black population contains the single largest percentage of hate-filled racists to be found among any demographic in America.


24 posted on 10/04/2012 1:25:02 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Democrats - The Treasonous Pervert Party)
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To: presidio9

If you can’t understand this article, go to the “Black Star Home page and you will understand.

http://www.blackstarnews.com/


25 posted on 10/04/2012 1:25:13 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: presidio9

>> Dr. Chika Onyeani

Ha ha! From the shoulders up, he looks like he’s with ACORN!


26 posted on 10/04/2012 1:25:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: presidio9

You are entirely welcome.

It was very interesting.


27 posted on 10/04/2012 1:25:35 PM PDT by IbJensen (Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: presidio9

I want what he’s smoking.


28 posted on 10/04/2012 1:25:53 PM PDT by Calpublican
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To: presidio9

It’s precisely this sort of delusional thinking, which confuses wishfulness with fact, which has characterized the ENTIRE four years of Obama’s reign.

We have to hope this sort of nonsense is on its way out, confined from now on to the mainstream media, the less desirable of the nation’s universities, and to psychiatrists’ offices.


29 posted on 10/04/2012 1:26:54 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: presidio9

They are black, Go figure!

http://www.blackstarnews.com/v3/about.php

they were watching a different debate and why did Obama keep looking at his belt?


30 posted on 10/04/2012 1:27:09 PM PDT by satan69 (garden)
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To: presidio9

Is this from The Onion?


31 posted on 10/04/2012 1:27:33 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: presidio9
TOOL TIME

From left: Heather Jernigan, Megan Gardner, Brent Jernigan and Jeremy Gardner
32 posted on 10/04/2012 1:27:43 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: presidio9
This writer is another example of the failure of affirmative action:

Like this DumbA$$ wanna be writer!

33 posted on 10/04/2012 1:29:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: presidio9

Whoever wrote this article, must have been “smoking” something.


34 posted on 10/04/2012 1:32:02 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: presidio9

Just one more classic example of how debilitating the disease of liberalism is to the human mind. It’s a slow chronic disease with no known cure that rots out all rational and logical thinking skills that normal human has. They are literally zombies from a mental point of view.


35 posted on 10/04/2012 1:32:12 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: presidio9

Dr. Onyeani has a beard in our universe.


36 posted on 10/04/2012 1:35:06 PM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: presidio9

Kenyan palm tree, meet Mormon chainsaw.


37 posted on 10/04/2012 1:35:44 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: presidio9

This reminds me of when Jesse Ventura announced WWF matches with Gorilla Monsoon. Jesse always stuck up for the heel and seemed to be watching a completely different match than everyone else.


38 posted on 10/04/2012 1:36:42 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: presidio9

You win the award for finding the best ObamaZombie review!


39 posted on 10/04/2012 1:38:58 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: presidio9

I don’t understand these people all complaining that Romney hasn’t laid out specific plans. These are the same people that, four years ago, thought “Hope and Change” was the only plan they needed. These are the same people that don’t have a problem with passing a bill to find out what’s in it.


40 posted on 10/04/2012 1:46:41 PM PDT by Teotwawki (For a person to get a thing without paying for it, another must pay for it without getting it.)
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To: lgjhn23

You are not kidding. My brother insists obama won. My aunt was trying to reason with him. I told her no matter what the facts are people like him are true believers. They are drones, lemmings so sad.


41 posted on 10/04/2012 1:46:46 PM PDT by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: presidio9
Dr. Chika Onyeani

One of 0dumb0's & Holder's people. 'Nuff said!

42 posted on 10/04/2012 1:49:01 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: presidio9

EPIC FAIL!


43 posted on 10/04/2012 1:51:01 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: presidio9

“I also saw tiny blue underwear gnomes dancing a tarantelle on a glittering pumpkin balloon that was floating above a sea of BooBerry cotton candy.

Then the orderlies held me down and the nurse gave me a shot and all those things went away ...”


44 posted on 10/04/2012 1:56:34 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: presidio9
Interesting alternate reality. Onyeani is a Nigerian name, if that matters.

-PJ

45 posted on 10/04/2012 2:04:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't I naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: presidio9
The moderator, Jim Lehrer, did a very poor job of not restraining Romney from interrupting Obama all the time.

How dare Romney interupt the One when he's minutes over his alloted time!

46 posted on 10/04/2012 2:07:21 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Exactly. It’s not even worth bothering to try to refute all the lies in this article, considering its audience-the 90-something percent of blacks who will vote for Obozo no matter what. Who do they think they’re fooling when they pretend that they were watching the debate objectively?

The author of this 5th grade level article could and would have written the same thing without ever watching the debate.


47 posted on 10/04/2012 2:15:01 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: illiac

I’m sure the writer had no bias as he watched the debate at East Orange City Hall in NJ just a few miles from Newark.
Population:

Black alone - 55,702 (86.7%)
Hispanic - 5,095 (7.9%)
White alone - 1,422 (2.2%)
Two or more races - 1,065 (1.7%)
Asian alone - 436 (0.7%)
Other race alone - 335 (0.5%)
American Indian alone - 186 (0.3%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 29 (0.05%)

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/East-Orange-New-Jersey.html#ixzz28MnbTGgj


48 posted on 10/04/2012 2:17:13 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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To: evets

This was to cover their azz because the author knows that everyone else knows that the black vote is a given for Hussein. I’d like to see how many other articles in this rag feature whites in the pics unless they’re talking about crime (and staying well away from the statistics when they do).


49 posted on 10/04/2012 2:17:35 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Hugin

Obozo got between 4-5 minutes more than Romney all told.


50 posted on 10/04/2012 2:18:56 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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