Skip to comments.Obama didn't lose the debate and Romney didn't win
Posted on 10/04/2012 3:50:20 PM PDT by tobyhill
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I just watched the debate. Romney could have inflicted more damage on obama, but why beat a dead horse.
CNN has spent the last hour staying on the talking points claiming that every single word from Romney was a lie without any actual facts to back up the assertion. Also being very sure to remind me 500 times that Obama didn’t “cut” Medicare. HA! They suck, but they’ll get this handled as soon as possible.
Maybe like Muhammad Ali, he was doing the rope-a-dope. Letting Romney tire himself out and think he is winning only to come back in the second and third debate and knock him out with facts.Wow. That's some industrial-strength wishful-thinking he's got going there.
Like Gutfeld said about the bang behind stage in the middle of the debate.
“Those were his poll numbers”
No amount of spinning is going to take away what I witnessed last night, an
It looks like the "operative truth" coming from the Left now: "Yeah, that's it, Obama meant to tank the debate."
This just in (for the 1000th time): Juan Williams is a moron. In fact, in defending The Marxist he’s simply defending his own affirmative action career.
I knew in advance that everything Obama said would be infuriating.
I knew in advance that some things Romney would say would be infuriating.
This is not High School, people. Who noticed that they both showed up in dark suits and white shirts? The Obama had a blue tie. The Romney had a red tie. Kind of like uniforms.
Obviously, this guy fell asleep in front of the TV...real early!!!
Coming in November:
Conventional wisdom about politics is usually wrong. That is why I often disagree with it.
But I cant recall a time when I disagreed more profoundly with the conventional wisdom that has coalesced around a major news event.
In yesterday’s election, I just didnt see the overwhelming, game-changing victory for Mitt Romney that his supporters are touting all over television and the Internet today.
I didnt see the humiliating defeat for President Obama that some liberals saw as they began their bellyaching about how President Obama managed to lose this election.
Instead, I saw an election in which neither candidate delivered a knockout punch. I saw a match that basically ended in a draw. After all, 52-48% is really within the national “margin of error” isn’t it?.
There is not one moment that I could point to as evidence that either candidate actually lost the election.
Let me guess. This was written on Tuesday.
“I didnt see the humiliating defeat for President Obama that some liberals saw as they began their bellyaching about how President Obama has lost his momentum and could now lose the election.
I saw a serious, substantive policy debate in which neither candidate slipped up or neither candidate delivered a knockout punch. I saw a match that basically ended in a draw.”
True there was no knockout punch. Nor should there be, even in the “Dancing With the Stars” world we live in. No other aspect of what this guy says is true. Just because a liberal jerk “doesn’t see” something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. A goodly number of “Romney sucks” memes were nicely destroyed. Just like the “War on Women” and the “he’ll prohibit abortion” things got smashed, Romney came off as a much more caring and insightful individual than has been so relentlessly obscured with the endless “murder”, “felon” “tax evader” crap. Those gambits if you’ll recall, also fell by the wayside. He came across as a serious candidate with intelligent things to say. Forgetting the conservative shortcomings we all know about, I believe this was perhaps the first introduction to Romney that many, many undecideds ever experienced. And he spoke of the Constitution and Declaration and he deftly conflated those documents with freedoms and real opportunity. This is different than trying to force vague Marxist ideals into conjunction with utopian memes like 0bama is always doing.
And in that same vein, 0bama came off as a petulant, pouting, and poorly prepared chanter of the same old “millionaires and billionaires” lines we’ve been hearing for years now. Yes, years. All without any apparent improvement in the the lives of the 99%. And I believe the willingness to open up to Romney was created, and THAT may well be the knockout. Not a punch, but an opening door. This has been Mitt’s pattern, and I can’t think of another way to get through the bumper-stickerisms of the lib side, I really can’t. I remain, like all here, less than comfortable with Mitts’ many shortcomings and policy flips. There is nothing I can do about those characteristics. I’m not confident that he will do everything he said he will do. If that makes him a liar, well, OK. But I am perfectly sure that 0bama will do a LOT more than what he promised in terms of how he will create fiat policies and diktats that will negatively affect all our lives. And I’m as sure as the sun rises that he must be defeated.
Finally, neither candidate engaged in that much of a serious, substantive conversation. Compared to a bumper sticker, OK, yeah. But the fact of the matter is that Romney and Ryan have little in the way of a math-functional approach to developing a balanced budget. But whatever they have or don’t have it’s light years closer than anything 0bama has to offer.
The word trick Juan is trying to play is to call what everyone else is doing is conventional wisdom. Wrong, He is the one with conventional wisdom, which is that Democrats always win debates. It just so happens this is a freak occurrence when the consensus of the moment is counter the normal conventional wisdom.
I warned about Williams the day Fox doubled his contract. Here is the article. A lot of Freepers flamed me for this....at the time that is.
I’d say Juan is an idiot but Obama already used that word all up.
Consider the source. I use to think Juan an honest Liberal. Turns out his just another racist who refuses to look beyond Obama’s skin color.