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Conservatives: Jobs data is phoney
Politico ^

Posted on 10/05/2012 7:53:22 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Conservatives: Jobs data is phoney By: Kevin Robillard October 5, 2012 09:51 AM EDT

The release Friday of unexpectedly positive jobs numbers immediately touched off a conspiracy theory among conservatives, who suggested the data was being manipulated.

“Chicago style politics is at work here,” Florida GOP Rep. Allen West wrote on his Facebook page. “Somehow by manipulation of data we are all of a sudden below 8 percent unemployment, a month from the Presidential election. This is Orwellian to say the least and representative of Saul Alinsky tactics from the book ‘Rules for Radicals’- a must read for all who want to know how the left strategize.”

West added, “Trust the Obama administration? Sure, and the spontaneous reaction to a video caused the death of our Ambassador……and pigs fly.”

While West is the only government official to buy into the manipulation idea so far, he has plenty of company in the conservative movement.

“Either the Federal Reserve, which has its fingers on the pulse of every element of the economy, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics manufacturing survey report are grievously wrong or the number used to calculate the unemployment rate are wrong, or worse manipulated,” Americans for Limited Government declared in a press release. “Given that these numbers conveniently meet Obama’s campaign promises one month before the election, the conclusions are obvious.”

The group’s president, Rick Manning, declared the president had hired “infamous Iraqi Information Minister Baghdad Bob to calculate the unemployment rate. Anyone who takes this unemployment report serious is either naïve or a paid Obama campaign adviser.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; election2012

1 posted on 10/05/2012 7:53:26 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

The timing is suspicious.


2 posted on 10/05/2012 7:56:25 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Two years ago, Rush predicted a magical drop in unemployment below 8 percent just before the election.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 7:57:15 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Sub-Driver

Does anyone have the figure yet on how many people dropped out of the labor market last month? Still haven’t seen that number yet. Something is fishy.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 7:58:34 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: unlearner; Sub-Driver; All

some good break out of the stats:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2940574/posts?q=1&;page=1


5 posted on 10/05/2012 7:58:45 AM PDT by khelus
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To: Huskrrrr

Rick Santelli predicted exactly the same thing.


6 posted on 10/05/2012 7:58:56 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: unlearner

“The timing is suspicious.”

That is why it is called an “October Surprize.”


7 posted on 10/05/2012 7:59:15 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sub-Driver

Politico are as good as paid advisors to Obama...heck Katy Couric gets her news there, she said so.

I guess that was her source for the CBS evening news


8 posted on 10/05/2012 7:59:26 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Sub-Driver
Of course it has been manipulated, and it's curious that there's no mention of how many people have given up looking. My guess...We got to 7.8 because people have dropped out. Under Obama we could theoretically get to 0% while people are either flipping burgers or sitting at home waiting for a true recovery.
9 posted on 10/05/2012 8:00:57 AM PDT by ajr276
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To: Huskrrrr

Where’s the corresponding dip in unemployment compensation claims? That may come out in a special release before November 6 by the ends-justify-the-means gang.


10 posted on 10/05/2012 8:01:12 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Sub-Driver

A mention was just made on FNC that hiring of Federal Government employees took a big jump this month. That’s all they said. I wish they had said more. This is a little suspicious.


11 posted on 10/05/2012 8:02:07 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Watch for a dip in gasoline prices before Nov. 6th. Obama is colluding with the Saudis to bring that off.


12 posted on 10/05/2012 8:02:41 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Sub-Driver

For some reason I’m thinking gas prices will also drop between now and Nov.

I don’t know why, I just got a feeling.............


13 posted on 10/05/2012 8:03:47 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

We all predicted it, really. It’s just more abuse of power.


14 posted on 10/05/2012 8:09:03 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Sub-Driver
Jack Welch tweet says it best...

Jack Welch ‏@jack_welch
Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can't debate so change numbers

15 posted on 10/05/2012 8:09:51 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

The numbers are crap. Lots of self employed people never showed up on unemployment rolls and have simply fallen into pure odd jobs survival mode and many of them have been forced to accept food stamps.

The sellers at the local farmer’s market say they can spot them because they’re bargain shoppers. They say some are even offering to do farm work under the table.


16 posted on 10/05/2012 8:10:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Summer of Recovery has finally arrived in the Fall of 2012!!


17 posted on 10/05/2012 8:11:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: unlearner; All

If there has been any job growth at all, it occured in Republican run states, inspite of anything Obama may have done! That should be the GOP response!


18 posted on 10/05/2012 8:12:14 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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To: virgil

Bingo.


19 posted on 10/05/2012 8:12:32 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sub-Driver

Part-time “because I couldn’t get another job” went up 953,000


20 posted on 10/05/2012 8:12:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Sub-Driver

They’ll make sure it will float back up to 7.9% just before the election just to make sure they are not looked at as TOO partisan.


21 posted on 10/05/2012 8:15:31 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Sub-Driver


22 posted on 10/05/2012 8:17:32 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obamaspeak: An army of pompous phrases marching across the landscape in search of an idea.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
I think this is beyond politics...it's criminal. I heard nothing can be revised until AFTER the election. Why? I hope some honest people that are in the know will be able to prove these were manipulated numbers...the math doesn't add up. Chicago thugs at work...praying some get angry enough to investigate and get to the real numbers...which are closer to 15%.

And yes, family member who works for government is seeing new hirees they don't even need! Just an attempt to inflate the unemployment rate.

23 posted on 10/05/2012 8:21:40 AM PDT by Faithfull
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To: unlearner

You will also note that within the first paragraph of every news report on this ‘wonderful’ drop in UE, is a reference to how this bolsters Obama’s campaign. Smell test fail.


24 posted on 10/05/2012 8:23:23 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

802,000 discourage workers: numbers here:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.a.htm

Freeper thread on that linK

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2940574/posts


25 posted on 10/05/2012 8:26:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Sub-Driver

So . . . Who among our elected representatives is going to call the BLS in and get to the bottom of this?

Bueller?

Bueller?


26 posted on 10/05/2012 8:30:55 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not buying this garbage. It is already FAILING BIGTIME.


27 posted on 10/05/2012 8:32:28 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: AppyPappy

“Part-time “because I couldn’t get another job” went up 953,000”

Which is based on the phony household survey of just a handful of households. Remember, 953,000 households aren’t called, just a fraction of them, therefore the 953,000 is more of an estimate/speculation by BLS bureaucrats based on the sampling of a few. So if someone responded “I raked leaves last week to earn a few extra bucks because I can’t find a steady job” then bang, they’re added to the statistics as being part time employed, and with the assumption that other households are doing the same, magically the 953,000 number appears, just in time for the election. The amount of manipulation by the Obama BLS is likely on a level never seen before.


28 posted on 10/05/2012 8:35:08 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: unlearner

ConservativesPeople with functioning brains: Jobs data is phoney

Fixed.

29 posted on 10/05/2012 8:37:29 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!r)
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To: xzins

Thanks for sending me the BLS stats. But did not see the 802,000 discouraged workers on the report.

Does that figure represent the number of discouraged workers dropping out of the labor market for month of September ALONE? If so, this is truly a HORRIBLE jobs report, one of the worst ever.


30 posted on 10/05/2012 8:38:08 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Sub-Driver

Politico BELIEVES the regime, however. Politico is always eager to please its Messiah Obamugabe. Never question, never doubt Obamugabe.


31 posted on 10/05/2012 8:38:33 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sub-Driver

Politico BELIEVES the regime, however. Politico is always eager to please its Messiah Obamugabe. Never question, never doubt Obamugabe.


32 posted on 10/05/2012 8:39:46 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

yes, for one month alone.

And August was even higher. They have manipulated the number of unemployed to be 1.6 million less than it should be in two months.

Instead of showing 13.5 million, it’s showing 12 million unemployed. With each million worth 3/4 of a point in unemployment, that means an entire point+ difference in just 2 months.


33 posted on 10/05/2012 8:43:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Sub-Driver

These numbers don’t meet Obama’s promise. He said the rate wouldn’t go above 8% with the stimulus. He didn’t say the rates would surge & eventually get below 8%. Why would anyone define his promise that way !!!!


34 posted on 10/05/2012 8:49:18 AM PDT by Bigjimslade
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To: Sub-Driver

These numbers don’t meet Obama’s promise. He said the rate wouldn’t go above 8% with the stimulus. He didn’t say the rates would surge & eventually get below 8%. Why would anyone define his promise that way !!!!


35 posted on 10/05/2012 8:49:21 AM PDT by Bigjimslade
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To: Sub-Driver

These numbers don’t meet Obama’s promise. He said the rate wouldn’t go above 8% with the stimulus. He didn’t say the rates would surge & eventually get below 8%. Why would anyone define his promise that way !!!!


36 posted on 10/05/2012 8:49:28 AM PDT by Bigjimslade
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To: Sub-Driver

These numbers don’t meet Obama’s promise. He said the rate wouldn’t go above 8% with the stimulus. He didn’t say the rates would surge & eventually get below 8%. Why would anyone define his promise that way !!!!


37 posted on 10/05/2012 8:49:28 AM PDT by Bigjimslade
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To: Sub-Driver

These numbers don’t meet Obama’s promise. He said the rate wouldn’t go above 8% with the stimulus. He didn’t say the rates would surge & eventually get below 8%. Why would anyone define his promise that way !!!!


38 posted on 10/05/2012 8:49:37 AM PDT by Bigjimslade
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To: Sub-Driver

“Chicago style politics is at work here,” everyone knows that.


39 posted on 10/05/2012 8:51:53 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

It’s going to be too little too late, because (1) the real jobless rate is anywhere close to 8%; (2) Americans do not “feel” like this is a good economy by any stretch of the immagination; (3) most voters have already made up their mind.


40 posted on 10/05/2012 9:05:31 AM PDT by diamond6 (Freerepublic.com and Hillbuzz.org are my go to sites for conservative news.)
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To: Vaduz

It’s going to be too little too late, because (1) the real jobless rate is not anywhere close to 8%; (2) Americans do not “feel” like this is a good economy by any stretch of the immagination; (3) most voters have already made up their mind.


41 posted on 10/05/2012 9:05:49 AM PDT by diamond6 (Freerepublic.com and Hillbuzz.org are my go to sites for conservative news.)
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To: Huskrrrr

This drop is indeed “magical”, being the best improvement ever witnessed in 30 years, and in an economy growing at an enemic rate.

You’d have to be the worst kind of sheeple/sheeperal to believe this crap.


42 posted on 10/05/2012 9:07:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sub-Driver

I believe Team Obama said unemployment would be around 5.6% by this time?


43 posted on 10/05/2012 9:19:23 AM PDT by Leep (Forward! To Surfdom)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is absolutely brilliant, whoever fudged the numbers thank you. I absolutely positively see good in this, everyone knows that this is a desperate bid for re-election, and it has completely backfired. Obama hasn’t a chance. Once Romney starts running things, that number will start to truly drop.


44 posted on 10/05/2012 9:19:54 AM PDT by Indika
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To: Vaduz

Going for the record, are we?


45 posted on 10/05/2012 9:24:33 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Obama A man without an American mission.)
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To: Vaduz

Sorry wrong poster.


46 posted on 10/05/2012 9:26:40 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Obama A man without an American mission.)
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Romney needs to start hammering the “REAL” unemployment. For the first time in a LOOONG time the GOP actually has a candidate who could explain such a thing clearly


47 posted on 10/05/2012 9:53:32 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Sub-Driver

I have seen a surge of patients in my practice being approved for Social Security Disability. No doubt that 0bama has put the word out to the bureaucrats to approve as many applicants as possible in order to keep people off the workforce stats.


48 posted on 10/05/2012 10:29:03 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Sub-Driver

The jump in employment reported in September was almost certainly a statistical fluke,” said economist Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, in a research note, while acknowledging that the jobs data show that unemployment is decreasing. “It is common to have large monthly changes in the employment numbers that are not consistent with other economic data.”

Baker is a liberal.


49 posted on 10/05/2012 11:17:00 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: Crimson Elephant

That’s exactly what he did today right on cue. He said that if the number of people working in Jan. 2009 were counted the real rate would be over 11%.

Nice job, Mitt!


50 posted on 10/05/2012 3:25:04 PM PDT by diamond6 (Freerepublic.com and Hillbuzz.org are my go to sites for conservative news.)
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