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Fact Check: Suspicion Falls on Labor Secretary Solis as She Misleads on Jobs Numbers
breitbart.com ^ | 10/5/12 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 10/05/2012 8:27:36 AM PDT by Justaham

Suspicion about the federal government's September jobs report has fallen on Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, who appeared on CNBC this morning and defended the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), claiming--falsely--that upward revisions of 86,000 jobs were from the private sector. In fact, the new number is entirely accounted for by upwards revisions to state and federal government payrolls.

The BLS reported that while only 114,000 jobs were created in September--which would have translated into a rise in unemployment from 8.1% to 8.2%--the unemployment rate fell dramatically to 7.8%. That unusual drop is the fastest in nearly three decades, and was unexpected even in the rosiest predictions.

One reason for the rise was an upward revision of 86,000 to the July and August jobs numbers--all of which came from a 91,000 increase in the estimate of public sector jobs. Private sector job estimates were actually revised downward by 5,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bls; broomhilda; communism; emptychair; fakeobama; falsejobnumbers; hildasolis; holder; jobs; laborsecretary; lies; magicnumbers; mcdonaldjobs; mcjobs; noobama; obama; partime; parttimejobs; propaganda; solis; stealingamerica; trickthepeople; tyranny; unemployment; voterfraud
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To: Justaham

I only need to see the name ....Solis and I know the numbers are false.


51 posted on 10/05/2012 9:06:53 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Justaham

Rush said over a year ago that by hook or by crook, the job number would be under 8% by election day. He was exactly right...it was by crook.


52 posted on 10/05/2012 9:10:37 AM PDT by libs_kma (When I see anyone with an Obama 2012 bumper sticker, I recognize them as a threat to the gene pool)
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To: Justaham

Are we still at war with EastAsia? or is it Oceania?


53 posted on 10/05/2012 9:12:30 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: opentalk

I recall that broadcast. He did predict this, but what else would one expect from this regime? Just a simple trip to the gas pump should tell Americans all they need to know about 0bama. Prices ‘necessarily skyrocketing’. Everyone who watched the debate should’ve made up their minds for Romney then and there.


54 posted on 10/05/2012 9:12:41 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: mmichaels1970
Or Q tactics:

Data: "Can you recommend a way to counter the effect?"
Q: "Simple. Change the gravitational constant of the universe."

55 posted on 10/05/2012 9:14:51 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: libs_kma
Rush is covering it now. The 7 is what mattered to O. People are not in workforce, participation rate has shrunk.
56 posted on 10/05/2012 9:15:03 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Friendofgeorge

Your opinion, not mine, and I will end with that.


57 posted on 10/05/2012 9:16:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: opentalk

This will quickly be forgotten.


58 posted on 10/05/2012 9:17:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: VanDeKoik
I'm already calling anyone out with this B/S and getting the word out.

Just got back from the Docs and told everyone in the waiting room about this when the TV was on.
All but one said they had no idea how bad it was, how the media lied.

Been on the internet now and getting the word out, they cannot get away with this B/S and the GOP needs to call a press conference and get on live camera like Pelosi and Reid always did after Bush spoke and state how these numbers do not add up and how the media needs to to do their job.

Obama looked confused and weak the other night because obama has never been questioned by anyone until now.

he knows Romney knows his stuff and so he was already intimidated by Romney and did not call Romney out anytime because he knows his talking points only work on the stupid, the weak and the ignorant at his rallies.

59 posted on 10/05/2012 9:22:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Justaham

My guess is that Obama’s illegal changes to the Welfare Work Requirements resulted in a lot of things now being considered as temporary work.


60 posted on 10/05/2012 9:24:47 AM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: Biggirl

Technically, the people protesting for the left are “employed”, so maybe this figure is accurate.


61 posted on 10/05/2012 9:24:58 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: jda

The obama loyalistas are just as happy if people are afraid to challenge the”won” for fear of retribution.


62 posted on 10/05/2012 9:26:07 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Biggirl

You dont believe in liberal media spin and their ability to advance an agenda?

And where do you get off being so dismissive of a polite response?


63 posted on 10/05/2012 9:27:10 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: jughandle

Professor protesters.


64 posted on 10/05/2012 9:27:41 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: opentalk

CCN had a woman on who has lost her job, admits Romney did better, she is underwater but called the other night just a one off and she will still vote obama.

This is how stupid the left is, they seriously have no facts, which when faced with real facts like Romney did the left have no come back,

Talking points , taking points, talking points as always witht hese dumb fools.

The media HQ’s need to be protested and I woudl love to see an investigation if we take power into how the media worked with this white house to lie and get their messiah elected., Oh and unseal those records, investigate the DOJ and Hlder and bring charges when needed.


65 posted on 10/05/2012 9:28:24 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Biggirl

I almost wonder if some of the employees at the bls didn’t put out the incredibly ridiculous number as a protest of the monthly fudging that the regime has been doing from the beginning. It could be a protest that is intended to accent the corruption of the numbers.


66 posted on 10/05/2012 9:30:30 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: Justaham

“Only in an era of depressingly diminished expectations could the September jobs report be called a good one. It really isn’t. Not at all.

1. Yes, the U-3 unemployment rate fell to 7.8%, the first time it has been below 8% since January 2009. But that’s only due to a flood of 582,000 part-time jobs. As the Labor Department noted:

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) rose from 8.0 million in August to 8.6 million in September. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

2. And take-home pay? Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings have risen by just 1.8 percent. When you take inflation into account, wages are flat to down...”

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/10/the-sickly-stagnant-september-jobs-report/


67 posted on 10/05/2012 9:32:33 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Justaham

Great! This will certainly help Obama some more...


68 posted on 10/05/2012 9:34:12 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Justaham

Only in the Communist administration of Obama can more people be thrown out of work but there is less unemployment. Communist propaganda only works on the feeble minded.


69 posted on 10/05/2012 9:34:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Justaham
HIGHEST 1 MONTH JUMP IN 29 YEARS

LOL!

70 posted on 10/05/2012 9:34:34 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Justaham

Maybe the BLS adopted the welfare work requirements, so if someone wrote in a journal or got a message they “worked”.


71 posted on 10/05/2012 9:35:44 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ColdOne

The Kenyan desperately needed a bellow 8% unemployment number to rally behind to shut down Romney and the Republicans # offensive argument, jobs. And his minions gave it to him.

Now that pesky 8% unemployment number has been removed from future debates!


72 posted on 10/05/2012 9:35:54 AM PDT by Bellagio
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To: Justaham

In July, 181,000 jobs were added: 8.3% unemployment
In August, 142,000 jobs were added: 8.1% unemployment
September, 114,000 jobs were added: 7.8% unemployment.
Yeah, right! Anything to get re-elected!


73 posted on 10/05/2012 9:38:45 AM PDT by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: Justaham

In July, 181,000 jobs were added: 8.3% unemployment
In August, 142,000 jobs were added: 8.1% unemployment
September, 114,000 jobs were added: 7.8% unemployment.
Yeah, right! Anything to get re-elected!


74 posted on 10/05/2012 9:38:53 AM PDT by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Yea, we need a more serious president. You can’t begin to address unemployment if you won’t even report honest numbers. This shows obama has no intention of doing that. It’s all a political game to him. People are hurting and they ought to be very angry by this stunt.


75 posted on 10/05/2012 9:39:10 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Justaham

” One reason for the rise was an upward revision of 86,000 to the July and August jobs numbers—all of which came from a 91,000 increase in the estimate of public sector jobs. Private sector job estimates were actually revised downward by 5,000.”

Thank you, BB


76 posted on 10/05/2012 9:39:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

"How ODD that the last time unemployment was 7.8% was JANUARY 2009, OBAMA'S FIRST MONTH IN OFFICE."

To put it a different way: Obama blew five trillion dollars, and all we got was the same lousy high unemployment rate...

77 posted on 10/05/2012 9:43:49 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: C19fan

I always watch cnbc and this is the first time I ever heard them accusing an administration of flat out lying. This could be bad for barry


78 posted on 10/05/2012 9:48:57 AM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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To: xuberalles

Are we really supposed to believe that September was the magical month that 800,000 people got part-time jobs? What were the part-time jobs numbers in previous month? Really, this is crazy.


79 posted on 10/05/2012 9:49:12 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Justaham

No way. Many part time and seasonal jobs were eliminated with the summer tourist season over with and student workers going back to school. There will be part time seasonal jobs opening up again during the holidays but I don’t see as many this year as in the past. People won’t be spending as much during the holidays as they’ve done in the past and if gas is high then they won’t travel.


80 posted on 10/05/2012 9:50:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Friendofgeorge

Whenever somebody says the media aren’t powerful and to be feared... just point out who’s in the White House, the most irrefutable proof humanly possible.


81 posted on 10/05/2012 9:52:25 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Friendofgeorge

I am one who is not letting the old msm play with my mind at all PERIOD. No ifs, ands, or buts.

You cannot let the misleading news media play with your head.

And I stand by my view.


82 posted on 10/05/2012 9:54:03 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Justaham

Moneynews

Jack Welch: Obama Cooking the Books on Jobs

Friday, October 5, 2012 09:17 AM

By: Forrest Jones

The U.S. economy added a net 114,000 jobs in September, while the unemployment rate fell to a surprisingly low 7.8 percent, a number former GE boss Jack Welch described as cooked up by the Obama administration.

The September jobs number brought the unemployment rate below 8 percent for the first time in about four years.

Total employment rose by 873,000 in September, following three months of little change, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Editor’s Note: Obama Donor Banned This Video But You Can Watch it Here

“Unbelievable jobs numbers ... these Chicago guys will do anything ... can’t debate so change numbers,” Welch said on his Twitter page, referring to President Barack Obama’s performance in the first presidential debate earlier this week.

Other experts expressed similar surprise.

http://www.moneynews.com/PrintTemplate?nodeid=458814


83 posted on 10/05/2012 9:54:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: italianquaker

This will end up bitting Obama in the end.


84 posted on 10/05/2012 9:55:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: All

FRpers, do not let the old msm and Obama play with you heads and let them get into your heads rent-free.


85 posted on 10/05/2012 9:58:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

It accentuates his dishonesty. It gives Romney a great opportunity to question even the 8.1% number and to bring up real unemployment.

Obama and children screwed up on this. They really jumped the shark.


86 posted on 10/05/2012 10:00:02 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: rush

I share with your anger.


87 posted on 10/05/2012 10:00:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Bellagio

Romney should keep saying “at or above 8 percent” just to drive Zero nuts.


88 posted on 10/05/2012 10:00:24 AM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

It is simply panic time for the Obama White House. They are desperate.


89 posted on 10/05/2012 10:01:44 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Justaham

It was all the fault of that darn Video.


90 posted on 10/05/2012 10:02:03 AM PDT by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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To: italianquaker

When Rick Santelli was questioned about it he just said that he had accurately predicted the rate drop last month but he wasn’t going to speculate as to the reason. His expression sad more than that.


91 posted on 10/05/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Justaham

92 posted on 10/05/2012 10:03:56 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Justaham; All

Some awesome quotes by economists on the BS of this report from a CNN article poster:

The Labor Department, based on a broad survey of employers, said 114,000 jobs were added in September.
But the unemployment rate itself is based on a separate “household survey,” which showed a whopping 873,000 new jobs in September.
“This must be an anomaly,” former Congressional Budget Office director Doug Holtz-Eakin said in a snap analysis of the numbers. “It is out of line with any of the other data..”
Holtz-Eakin noted the household survey is smaller, suggesting it is not as reliable. He called estimate of 873,000 new jobs “implausible.”
Liberal economist Dean Baker, with the Center for Economic and Policy Research, called the September rate drop “almost certainly a statistical fluke.”


93 posted on 10/05/2012 10:05:49 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Biggirl

Surprisingly in the comments section of both Chicago leftists news rags the majority of responses are total disbelief in the Obama regime unemployment propaganda numbers.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/15575214-418/unemployment-rate-drops-to-surprising-78-in-september.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/la-pn-obama-romney-jobs-report-20121005,0,1982280.story


94 posted on 10/05/2012 10:06:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Justaham
Fascinating thread on ZH about this. Here. What they noticed from the "household survey" is that the number of new P/T jobs was EXACTLY 2/3 of the number of new jobs reported (582k/873k). What's the odds? Is this a survey, or a projection? Huh?
95 posted on 10/05/2012 10:11:36 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: Justaham

Jobgate - hide the decline...


96 posted on 10/05/2012 10:28:29 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: ez
Romney should keep saying “at or above 8 percent”

Agreed! Right there is the ticket. Let's see who challenges the above statement, then call them out to support the lower numbers.

97 posted on 10/05/2012 10:30:15 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: StAnDeliver
All Romney has to do is cite U6 at (an unchanged!) 14.7% as the Romney Administration’s new official government rate of unemployment. Game over.

A great opener by Romney in the 2nd debate. .

98 posted on 10/05/2012 11:00:23 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Riflema

So the business survey says +114k jobs, the HH survey says +873k. Who you gonna believe, the BLS or the BLS?

-David Burge (Iowahawk) tweet.


99 posted on 10/05/2012 11:02:13 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Justaham

BLS = BS with a LIAR in the middle......


100 posted on 10/05/2012 11:16:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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