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US Attack On Iran Could Cause Tens-Of-Thousands Of Civilian Casualties
Business Insider ^ | ober | Robert Johnson

Posted on 10/05/2012 1:15:36 PM PDT by drewh

The Ayatollah’s Nuclear Gamble written by Khosrow B. Semnani, and published by the Hinckley Institute of Politics, University of Utah has concluded a strike would include four sites and irradiate up to 100,000 Iranian citizens and soldiers.

The four locations include:

Isfahan: The Nuclear Technology/Research Center in Esfahan (ENTC) is supposed to be the main location of the Iranian nuclear weapons program. Semnani predicts 1,000 workers here will be killed, and up to 70,000 casualties in the surrounding areas from toxic plumes: 71,000

Natanz: One-hundred miles north of Isfhahan, this location has been in use for about 12 years and is said to be responsible for production of plutonium and enriched uranium. With a high probability of attack, Semnani projects 1,000 worker casualties and up to 7,000 collateral injuries within the surrounding area: 7,100 Arak: A heavy water production plant in existence since 2006, Semnani projects 500 workers here will be killed in the first instants of a strike. If the heavy water is actually in production the author goes on to project an additional 3,600 causalities from radiation exposure: 4,100

Bushehr: Iran's first operational nuclear power plant has been online since November 2011 following a string of delays. Built to Russian designed specifications at a cost of nearly $1 billion, Bushehr is southeast of a city with a population of 240,000 that enjoys a strong wind blowing Northwest from the power plant. Semnani projects 3,000 instant deaths at the site and up to 12,000 deaths in the city if only 1 to 5 percent of the population is exposed: 15,000

Semnani estimates up to 97,000 Iranian casualties would result from attacks on the four locations.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 201111; bushehr; enrichment; entc; esfahan; heavywater; iran; isfahan; natanz; nucleariran; plutonium; uranium; waronterror; wmd

1 posted on 10/05/2012 1:15:40 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

And if they don’t take them out, I wonder what would be the estimate of civilian casualties.


2 posted on 10/05/2012 1:17:06 PM PDT by marron
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To: drewh

Look for it when the poll results start reflecting the “Revelation of the True Obama” that happened Wed night.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 1:17:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: drewh

The civilian casualties of an airstrike on Iran’s nuke facilities will be high in large part because, being Muslims, the Iranians will ship in plenty of civilians to act as human shields.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 1:19:35 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Vote Romney to stop Obama. Vote conservative Congresspeople to stop Romney.)
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To: drewh

a mere tens of thousands is inadequate. The total needs to be measured in hundreds of thousands.

There has been enough politically correct screwing around


5 posted on 10/05/2012 1:20:00 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: marron
To those who wrote this study it wouldn't matter because they would be Israeli casualties.
6 posted on 10/05/2012 1:21:03 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: drewh

Iranians better get together and see hat it doesn’t happen, by replacing their current regime.

Other wise they are the cause of their own fate.

Lie down with dogs and get up irradiated.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 1:22:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: drewh

I’m confused.

Is the author worried there won’t be enough virgins?


8 posted on 10/05/2012 1:23:27 PM PDT by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: marron

“And if they don’t take them out, I wonder what would be the estimate of civilian casualties.”

This is a damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don’t situation. To neutralize Iran’s impact on the region may require killing Iranians on the scale of the Dresden bombings. But, allowing them to go nuclear will let them place bombs in any city anywhere and set them off at leisure. Remember, Iran has a hostage taking culture going back to Darius. They won’t use nukes the way others use them. They’ll go for forward deterrence; pre-placing them in countries around the world. Even if we do go to war with them then, we will lose millions of people even if we level the entire country. (Which, we won’t, as the Iranian people have nothing to do with the nukes. It’s just a hand full of nutjobs running the place. And, those are in power thanks to Jimmy Carter. Elections DO have consequences.)


9 posted on 10/05/2012 1:32:16 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: drewh

When you attempt to eradicate cancer some good cells will get killed. So be it. If they will not do the job and clean up their own mess someone will have to do it for them.


10 posted on 10/05/2012 1:32:23 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: drewh

islam is a curse on the world. The goal is the destruction of western civilization. If it is not stopped millions will die. This is war. War is hell and many many will die. The choice is they die in a fight to save the world or they die as victims who did not fight for their own freedom and lives


11 posted on 10/05/2012 1:35:25 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: drewh
Perhaps we should light off one out beyond their BFE region as a warning to get out while the getting's good?

I'm sure the Ayatollahs wouldn't give us that much consideration.

12 posted on 10/05/2012 1:38:38 PM PDT by stboz
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To: drewh

you’re saying that like it’s a bad thing......


13 posted on 10/05/2012 1:48:50 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: drewh

Yes, and it could be even more than that, but
you have to ask yourself, what do I want, Iranian
casualties, or AMERICAN casualties?


14 posted on 10/05/2012 2:11:13 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Point #2.
You cannot hit just these four sites, all power generation
and transmission, communication,command and control
and defensive positions must be hit at the same time!

Add another hundred thousand or more.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 2:16:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: drewh

the iranians had plenty of warning. If you want to play high stakes poker, you risk big losses


16 posted on 10/05/2012 2:23:19 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: drewh

And what are the casualties incurred when Iran sets off a nuke?


17 posted on 10/05/2012 2:24:11 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: drewh

100,000 is just the initial downpayment.

You still have to destroy the IIRG, the armed forces of Iran, and the high technology sector. Oh, and obliterate/burn out the civil communications grid as well.

The author talks about creating resentment. A proper campaign (multiple attacks) will create resentment alright; resentment at the self-deluded government that exposed them to all the resulting destruction of property and lives.

Either go big or don’t go at all.


18 posted on 10/05/2012 2:38:32 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined Effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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To: drewh
>US Attack On Iran Could Cause Tens-Of-Thousands Of Civilian Casualties

Well then, that settles it.

We must sit idly by and let them enslave/murder us all.

19 posted on 10/05/2012 2:38:49 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: drewh
US Attack On Iran Could Cause Tens-Of-Thousands Of Civilian Casualties

That's probably not a concern.

We don't support Israeli attack, US tells Iran (9/3/2012)

0bama sent a letter to Tehran assuring them that the U.S. will do nothing to help Israel. That takes that off of the table removing a big worry for them that might have made them think twice. Iran is good to go now with 0bama's blessing.

20 posted on 10/05/2012 2:44:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: drewh

Ya’ know, I am so very sorry. I would, however, much prefer THEIR civilian casualties to ANYONE ELSE’S civilian casualties when those crazies decide to drop a bomb on someone who offends them.


21 posted on 10/05/2012 3:30:28 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: drewh
This is certain to show up on Lew Rockwell. America must start to weigh actions against a criterion of US national interests. Globolony, hysteria mongering, liberal internationalism, neo-con delusions all are poison for this country.
22 posted on 10/05/2012 3:48:40 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Captain Rhino
Unfortunately mostly what is percolating inside the Beltway is chatter about the ever popular ‘precision strikes’.
23 posted on 10/05/2012 3:50:53 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Venturer

Applause!!! Exactly right, knowing the number of casualties, it would behoove Iran to stop the nuke development!!


24 posted on 10/05/2012 3:55:06 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: drewh

Bomb the tunnel entrances, close the facility, entomb those still inside. No leakage.


25 posted on 10/05/2012 4:04:19 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: bert

I like the way you think!! (The ‘millions’ number wouldn’t break my heart either). These American killing savages have had it comin’ for a LONG damn time. All set here with the Popcorn and Crown Royale to celebrate when it goes down also.


26 posted on 10/05/2012 5:24:01 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

A) boo hoo

B) agitprop

C) to make a souffle’ you gotta break a few eggs

Thanks drewh.


27 posted on 10/05/2012 5:43:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TigersEye

“0bama sent a letter to Tehran assuring them that the U.S. will do nothing to help Israel. That takes that off of the table removing a big worry for them that might have made them think twice. Iran is good to go now with 0bama’s blessing.”

You’re exactly right. Bombs away !!


28 posted on 10/05/2012 5:59:55 PM PDT by Dartman
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To: Dartman

I don’t see that as a good thing.


29 posted on 10/05/2012 6:09:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Gen.Blather
Tens of Thousands is far too low to be concerned about. In fact, I have come to believe that horrendously massive casualties will be necessary for the Muslim "moderates" to rise up in numbers and volume sufficient to curb the radicals. Very sad, but those who continue to say "you can't kill enough of them to win this war" don't know what they are talking about. We CAN - the question is when we start to do it.

Blue Lancer is right:

/


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200 years from now, I want their children's children's children
to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead
because their legends tell of fire from the sky.

I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth,
shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines
because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters
crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.

I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with
"If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you",
and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obedience.

I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology
will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea
.. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.

(Original created by BlueLancer ... 13 September 2001)

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I am convinced that, unfortunately, this must be in the future for IslamoFascists to be defeated.

30 posted on 10/05/2012 9:45:21 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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