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To: arrogantsob
“International Bankers” are the commonly used code words for “Jews”.

When I say "international bankers", I'm not saying "Jews". It's my belief that the Vatican bank, the "Institute for Works of Religion", is playing a major roll in the effort to take away our freedoms. The Jesuits throughout the centuries have been behind a lot of intrigue also. The upper hierarchy of the Freemasons, with their Hermetic symbolism and pagan rites, may be involved also. Islam. Communists. It's the whole world versus protestant America. Satan is the prince of the air, and probably all these are his weapons. Now by no means am I saying that all Catholics and Freemasons are out to take away our freedoms, but there are elements of the hierarchies that are looking for world conquest, and the Federal Reserve was their foot in our door.

There was no consistent expansion after the Second National Bank was allowed to expire by Jackson.

Like the Great Depression was "consistent expansion".

Rather, there were disastrous booms and busts caused by currency chaos. Currency issued or backed by the National Bank was reliable money, that issued by the state banks frequently worthless or of indeterminate value.

That's the value of gold.

Jackson’s fanaticism and ignorance provoked the WORST DEPRESSION the nation had experienced. In spite of the massive investment by the British that period was filled with misery due to Jackson’s incompetence.

Mountain out of a molehill. We expanded greatly between Jackson and Wilson.

Panics and depression were common features of 19th century economic life.

Likewise after the Federal Reserve was created, but worse.

International bankers had no control over the National Bank or the Second National Bank.

You live in an alternate reality.

Removing those banks gave those bankers MORE power not less.

If you want to see power, look at the Federal Reserve.

International bankers did not WANT a National Bank and opposed its creation...

There's your alternate reality again.

... until the Panic of 1907 erupted a few years before the creation of the Fed.

Gee, what a coincidence. Create a problem and provide the solution to gain power. How clever.

They certainly did not need to provoke the farmers and Westerners to demand a Reserve banking system.

Farmers voted for Obama too. They usually aren't very educated in international finance.

They saw the metals THEY MINED drawn away to the East leaving them without an adequate money supply and with economic misery. And demanded this system from the 1880s.

California was in economic misery huh?

Your conspiracy theory comes from not really understanding how the economy works, little real knowledge of history and believing outright lies. Silly stuff.

When the gulags in Siberia were shut down, some of the prisoners that were there were there so long that they wouldn't leave, thinking it wasn't so bad. That's what you remind me of. You rationalize the enslavement we've been under since 1913 by saying that things were so bad before them that we have to have our slave masters, we can't live without them. You've shown no evidence that things were bad. All the evidence points to a great expansion before the Federal Reserve, gaining states, settling California, creating the great cities of San Francisco and the rest. Since we went completely off gold under Nixon, there's been hardly any rise in the standard of living. Keep living in fantasy land if it makes you feel better about licking the boots of your international banker masters.

42 posted on 10/08/2012 5:51:02 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Your silliness is not worth much more of me telling you truths which mean nothing to you. The world economy is not controlled or controllable by a group of men or even governments. Nor are problems created deliberately to further a conspiracy.

Capitalist development has booms and busts because of the business cycle itself; because of the monetary disturbances which exist under ALL currency regimes; bankruptcies; metal strikes; technological development; wars; revolts; crop failure and other factors. Central banks have little or no control over most of that list nor total control over monetary policy. And they certainly do not deliberately destroy economies.

There has never really been a gold standard either. When such is adopted and convertibility initially exists, it only takes a war to knock convertibility out of the picture.
Britain for much or most of the 19th century did not have convertibility. May as well use the stone money of Yap as gold.

Most of the Populist demand for Reserve Banks was in the middle of the country, that is where conditions were frequently desperate because of the lack of money. San Francisco and Seattle banks were strong so the economy of the coast was stronger than the non-coastal west.

Your pretending the history of our economy, before and after the Fed, is not one of dramatic booms and bust, financial panics, depression and great suffering does not change the facts. Just because the trend line is up that does not remove the human pain when things are below it.

Monetary conditions were a persistent and serious problem in 19th century politics after the destruction of the National Bank. And the agitation did NOT come from your International Conspiracy.

43 posted on 10/08/2012 9:56:02 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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