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Did Romney Cheat In The First Presidential Debate, Does Video Show Hidden Notes Or Hanky?
TMO ^ | 10-5-2012 | Nadeem Walayat

Posted on 10/05/2012 6:27:17 PM PDT by blam

Did Romney Cheat In The First Presidential Debate, Does Video Show Hidden Notes Or Hanky?

ElectionOracle / US Presidential Election 2012
Oct 05, 2012 - 07:36 PM
By: Nadeem Walayat

Mitt Romney was declared by over 80% of viewers to have won the first presidential debate as he managed to successfully go on the offensive against an seemingly tired and distant Barack Obama who both failed to defend himself or attack Romney or many of the inaccurate statements Romney made such as that 23 million workers were unemployed (counting part-timers).

However video footage suggests that Romney may have cheated as the rules state that. "No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate." See the screen grabs and actual footage to make up your own minds on whether Romney cheated by using notes or was it an innocent hanky.

On approach to podium hand goes into pocket

Hand retrieves folded paper

Places paper on podium

Ready for the debate

See the slow motion video here and make up your own minds.

In my opinion, no candidate would risk being caught out cheating in such a public arena, so it probably is just a handkerchief rather than hidden notes that the Democrats are implying.

So the real question that should be asked is why Obama failed to try? Why did he not hold Romney to account? Why did he not even mention Romney writing off 47% of the population?

A conspiracy theory would suggest that for the elite sponsored illusion of democracy to work, the serving class (voters) need to perceive the race to be close, therefore Obama played his role in letting the race tighten up a little in voter perception when the reality for a long time has been that the U.S. in reality is a one party state, just as the UK since the early 1990's has been a one party state which little difference between Labour or Conservative and as we have seen even the Liberal Democrats party of protest as soon as they got a sniff of power, abandoned all of their principles for the trappings of power.

"Ask Not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your countrys elite".


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KEYWORDS: cheat; debate; hankie; hanky; obama; romney
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To: blam

Here we go again.

51 posted on 10/05/2012 6:55:35 PM PDT by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: blam

OHHHH Criminy

I watched my Son in Debate memorize 40 pages in about a minute, I watched his opponents do the same. High School.

MSM meltdown ...

TT


52 posted on 10/05/2012 6:56:15 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Spunky

Bookmark for later


53 posted on 10/05/2012 6:56:49 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: blam
Yep! Romney cheated. Get over it. He's going to out-Chicago the Chicago guy.

Now that the liberals have passed out or heads have exploded....

Romney didn't need to cheat. He's good at what he does. I knew he would kick ass in the debates, and I know he'll win the election.

I say this as a guy that isn't voting for Romney. Give the guy credit. He may not be a good candidate for conservatives, but he certainly is the best candidate for the GOP.

/johnny

54 posted on 10/05/2012 6:56:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam
So,we have the possibility that Romney cheated in the debate and the possibility that today's unemployment figures were cooked.

I think one's far,far more likely than the other.

55 posted on 10/05/2012 6:57:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: blam

Makes one wonder what these desperate (word for illegitimate offspring) won’t do. Lie, cheat, steal, what else are they prepared and willing to do to keep the head marxist in power?

The socialists are prepared to riot if they don’t win. They also know that right will not if things were to turn suddenly very ugly.

Prayers for a peaceful transition.


56 posted on 10/05/2012 6:57:33 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: blam

These socialists cannot abide the possibility that their hero, Hussein Obama, was too lazy or something, to prepare for the debate. So, he didn’t; went sightseeing instead. Now, after the thing is over and he got his clock cleaned, he’s thinking of things he wished he’d said; and he can count on the media to publicize all his smart retorts after the fact. Some media members are obviously sick of making the fraud look good. They’re realizing, too late, that they sold their souls for shuck and jive.


57 posted on 10/05/2012 6:59:31 PM PDT by Twinkie (Live and let live.)
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To: dforest

“each given a notepad before the debate”

Romney frequently made notes. I believe Obama made a few doodles himself.


58 posted on 10/05/2012 6:59:50 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: blam
Romney writing off 47% of the population

To be clear, Romney did not say he would write off 47% of the population. He ineffectively said that those 47% would write off his candidacy.

59 posted on 10/05/2012 7:00:10 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: blam

what a total load. You can’t think on your feet when you are looking at cards as obama showed


60 posted on 10/05/2012 7:00:56 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The Hanky is the perfect gift for the Demwit on your Kwanzaa shopping list — makes the perfect impromptu head covering or white flag.

Thanks blam.


61 posted on 10/05/2012 7:01:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BerryDingle
Depends on how that individual studies in class and how much they read. From what we know, Mr. Obama was a C- student who was much more interested in marijuana and socializing with potheads and radicals. Someone at the level who reads vociferously, studies hard and is well-adjusted would know most of what you reference.
62 posted on 10/05/2012 7:02:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

BINGO!

Not to mention all the skipped daily briefings and intelligence updates. He is dumb as hell and he has to hide it by skipping the briefings. If he were in the room with some smart young analysts, everyone would easily spot how dumb he really is.


63 posted on 10/05/2012 7:03:29 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Lx

“carry a usable one in my pocket if you’re wearing a suit “

That line won’t fool anyone at the DUmpster: they know suits have sleeves for wiping noses- they’ve seen pictures.


64 posted on 10/05/2012 7:03:29 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: blam

Notes are not permitted?


65 posted on 10/05/2012 7:03:37 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I’ve been saying that since he got in the Senate ~ but he’s not an idiot ~ he’s just stupid!


66 posted on 10/05/2012 7:04:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam

They can’t bring notes to a debate? I did not know that.


67 posted on 10/05/2012 7:06:39 PM PDT by Floratina
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To: svcw
After the debate was over, Romney scooped up his notes from the podium and took them with him before he stepped out to greet his family on stage. Obama didn't bother but one of his lackeys DID come back and gather up Obama’s from his podium. It was a very smart thing for Romney to do since no telling what mischief could be made if the opposition got hold of them. Obama obviously didn't care enough since he he could only mouth his rhetoric from campaign speeches. Thinking on his feet is the LAST thing he is capable of doing.
68 posted on 10/05/2012 7:08:48 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: muawiyah

Actually he’s a stupid Commie, its one of many reasons why he won’t release his college transcripts(Besides applying for foreign aid of course)


69 posted on 10/05/2012 7:10:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Being a Commie means you have to be able to string at least 50 words together in a nonsense statement without referring to notes.

Obamugabe doesn't have the basic capabilities of your basic commie.

He's stupid!!!!

70 posted on 10/05/2012 7:12:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JohnBrowdie

After the liberals blamed Bush 43 for the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, I’m sure they will find a way to blame Romney for the attacks on the embassy in Libya.

Just think. If things are this bad with Romney as a candidate, imagine how bad it will be with him as president.


71 posted on 10/05/2012 7:13:28 PM PDT by Loud Mime (arguetheconstitution.com)
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To: muawiyah

I think Dennis Miller said it best..Hugo Chavez probably wouldn’t vote for Obama because Obama is too Commie even for him..and Obama wouldn’t be able to vote for Chavez because in Venezuela you need a Voter ID.
I think I counted at least 40 times that Obama used the word “Uh” he can’t put two words together without bumbling like a moron


72 posted on 10/05/2012 7:21:33 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: blam

So it’s better for the Left if they can say their guy was not only unprepared but also that he got his ass kicked by a guy with a magic hanky?


73 posted on 10/05/2012 7:21:45 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: boatbums

Romney may or may not be your choice for president but good lord........even thought I don’t like him, no way I beleive he cheats.
I am soooooooooooooooo sick of liberal lies.


74 posted on 10/05/2012 7:21:51 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Cover of New Yorker

75 posted on 10/05/2012 7:22:57 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: dk88
It’s a debate - not a test. There’s no such thing as “cheating.” They both answered the questions how they saw fit live in reality.

EXACTLY!!! If Romney did not already know his beliefs about the various topics as they came up, no amount of notes would have helped him, besides, if he did have notes, we would all have seen some kind of shuffling of them to find the ones with the "right" answers on them - and nobody saw that going on. The truth is simply that Obama is an empty suit that can deliver a speech as long as it is played for him on a teleprompter three feet in front of his face. He has no core beliefs - at least not those acceptable by the American public. That's why he was so abysmal at the first debate. I do not foresee any improvement for the next two.

Axelrod has said they would have to reformulate and regroup to better prepare for future debates. This may only work to confuse poor BO even more as he will have to work on too many things at once to sound in control (eye contact, body language, facts, statistics, message, etc.). I anticipate that there will be some new dramatic events that will result in the debates being canceled. They cannot afford THREE failed debates for the "Won".

76 posted on 10/05/2012 7:23:09 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: blam

Are the Libtards just going to keep throwing feces and hope something sticks in their attempts to explain away Obama getting pounded in the debate?

And by the way - I have made practically the same move when approaching a podium to speak (actually, to preach) - including my hankie, folded in quarters. Guess what... It comes out and looks just like that!

WE should put together a list of all the excuses that have been made so far (my favorite still is AlGore’s blame of the altitude).


77 posted on 10/05/2012 7:27:22 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Doogle

78 posted on 10/05/2012 7:28:53 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: blam
It's true. I saw Mitt taking notes as Obama stuttered, stammered and spewed lies about AARP, his racist grandma and expressed his astonishment that Mitt had not yet kowtowed to him, admitting defeat. His moronic, swooning fans feel that Obama should have had his teleprompter? Incredible.
79 posted on 10/05/2012 7:29:49 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: TheBattman
Astrological excuse:

Pluto was sextiling Uranus.

80 posted on 10/05/2012 7:29:56 PM PDT by Publius (Leadership starts with getting off the couch.)
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To: blam
Obama crumbled his up and tossed them under the podium.


81 posted on 10/05/2012 7:32:24 PM PDT by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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To: montanajoe

The loser will always claim something stupid. They cook the book on job report. The one from Chicago is one of the worst criminal of our lifetimes.


82 posted on 10/05/2012 7:34:58 PM PDT by dhuynh73 (Reagan Country)
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To: blam

Well at least we can be certain that 0bama didn’t cheat. Crib notes from a fifth grader’s homework assignment , or Forest Gump feeding him answers over an ear bud would have improved THAT performance.


83 posted on 10/05/2012 7:36:55 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: mrsmith
That line won’t fool anyone at the DUmpster: they know suits have sleeves for wiping noses- they’ve seen pictures.

"How come your sleeve is green?", "I dunno (as he wipes his nose with his sleeve)".

"Why's your hair all slicked back?", "I dunno (as he wipes his nose with his hand and continues over his forehead to the top of his head)".

Sorry, junior high memories. ;o)

84 posted on 10/05/2012 7:38:13 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Dave278
Romney wiped his nose with the handkerchief and his a$$ with the pretender-in-chief.

ROFL! Poifekt!

85 posted on 10/05/2012 7:40:02 PM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: blam

Well NATURALLY Romney cheated!! He wrote down EVERY POSSIBLE DEBATE SUBJECT/TOPIC and STATISTIC on a cocktail napkin prior to the debate. Of course, that means he was DRUNK TOO!!!!!
Who comes up with this crap??!!


86 posted on 10/05/2012 7:47:23 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: musicman
BTW, I loved the image you posted earlier of Obama looking like a piece of broccoli with the caption: “Broc Obama” Stellar! :-D
87 posted on 10/05/2012 7:50:43 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: blam
I made no secret of the fact that I made frequent use of "cheat sheets" in college.

I discovered that, by the time I had condensed course material to a form that could be hidden -- I had learned the material "backward and forward" -- so I never took a "cheat sheet" to an exam!

Proper outlining has similar learning benefits, if done correctly.

Make your own "Cliff's Notes" -- you will soon know the material as well as the prof does... No need to cheat!

88 posted on 10/05/2012 7:52:37 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: boatbums

LOL! And the “Orange you glad I didn’t say bannana!” punchline was circa Junior High too.
Almost 50 years later and, for some, their political grasp is less mature than was our Junior High humor.

I can’t help but wonder if this meme wasn’t started as some conservative’s sly joke at their expense.


89 posted on 10/05/2012 7:57:44 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: blam
LMAO.... I smell lib desperation. The Empty Chair and his tribe should pack their bags.
90 posted on 10/05/2012 7:59:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Actually he's still one of the weakest candidates we've ever put out there. But Obama is utterly incompetent. Jim Rob, lazmataz, me, couple of hundred other Freepers would have had little problem putting this guy down, and certainly the folks who do this for a living ~ who have tried their hands at running for President could have done the job.

Not saying it's an easy job, but why we didn't send our best is a good question ~ don't we care anymore?

Another question ~ why didn't the Democrats send in a better candidate?

91 posted on 10/05/2012 8:00:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Artcore

(Thanks!!)

92 posted on 10/05/2012 8:01:25 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: tapatio

aaaaaaaaaaUP!


93 posted on 10/05/2012 8:06:15 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: blam

Didn’t Obama have paper he was writing notes on as well?


94 posted on 10/05/2012 8:07:11 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: blam

This guy http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/10/05/upon-further-review-mitt-romney-may-have-cheated-to-win-the-debate/ slays me.

*snip*
“Those questions have been put to rest. Honestly, I do not know a person that carries a cloth rag in their pocket when they have a runny nose — it is a little gross”

“It doesn’t change the fact that it is incredibly stupid to walk into a Presidential debate and sneak something from your pocket. There is advance staff to take care of tissues.”
______________________________________________________

Where did this libturds virtuous green beliefs go? Paper over cloth?! Wow! 10 Hail Gore’s for you, sinner!

Romney shouldn’t be taking care of his own hygienic needs, because that is work of the little people?

Ouch! That is mighty elitist of Mr.Buck, he needs re-education because that doesn’t line-up with the- Romney is a rich, out-of-touch- with-the-little-people meme.


95 posted on 10/05/2012 8:07:58 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: svcw
Sorry I didn't make myself more clear...I'm not saying Romney cheated by bringing notes WITH him, only that the notes he took WHILE he was debating - and they both appeared to be writing things down from time to time - he took back with him when the debate was over. Romney had no need of crib notes because he is a smart man, he knows what he believes and he is well versed in all the stats he needed to back up what he says. Obama - as shown in the debate - only knows to say the things he does but he has no background understanding by which to know anything about them. Case in point was his repetitive use of "Romney wants to cut taxes by five trillion". It didn't matter that Romney corrected him two or three times, it was something he was told and, by golly, he was going to use it.

As for Romney being my "choice" for president, I can honestly say he was not because of all that I had heard about him and I did not vote for him in the primary. Now that it is down to him or Obama, then, yes, I will vote for Romney and the debate helped me to feel more comfortable with that decision. He is not the perfect candidate, but he's the only choice we have right now. At least I do not feel as forced into it as I did before. I believe that with a more Conservative Congress, he will be a good person for the job and a million times better than who is in there now!

96 posted on 10/05/2012 8:17:58 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Dave278

LOL!! Bravo Dave!!


97 posted on 10/05/2012 8:55:49 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: blam

If he had notes when did he look at them? He spent the entire time he wasn’t speaking looking at 0bama. Probably in amazement. lol


98 posted on 10/05/2012 9:15:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: blam
It's a hanker-chief.
99 posted on 10/05/2012 9:18:28 PM PDT by zeaal
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To: Dave278

LOL


100 posted on 10/05/2012 9:19:23 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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