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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll (Rasmussen) - O:47%, R:49%, 'other':2%
Rasmussen ^ | Oct. 6, 2012 | Rasmussen

Posted on 10/06/2012 6:44:28 AM PDT by AFPhys

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To: xzins
It looks like about 271 Obama and 267 Romney when all toss-ups are given to the current state leader per Rasmussen’s numbers.

But the key in that story is the warning that the polling in that chart has been conducted at various times in the past 3 weeks. We have yet to see post Debate polling for most of those states

101 posted on 10/06/2012 9:26:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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102 posted on 10/06/2012 9:27:32 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: MNJohnnie
We have yet to see post Debate polling for most of those states

I agree 100%.

Romney's post-debate numbers will be up on Rasmussen in the morning, nationally. I don't know how often Rasmussen is putting up numbers for Ohio, Wisc, and Nevada.

I'm also interested in Wednesday's numbers, because that'll be 3 days worth of numbers since the democrats with media help began their "Romney Lied" campaign. I'm curious to see if the American persuadable/undecideds have rejected that argument.

103 posted on 10/06/2012 9:34:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: AFPhys

It’s 51 state polls that matter, not the overall vote (right, Al Gore?) but this is a very positive break. I think viewership will go down for the subsequent debates because most Americans saw from Romney what they needed to see.

However, it can still turn around. Folks may remember that Reagan had a *terrible* first debate against Mondale in 1984 where some questioned if he wasn’t tired/too old/not up for it etc. but he bounced back solidly with his second debate (the famous “I will not exploit my opponent’s youth and inexperience for political purposes” line) and it all swung back for him.

I just think, with the dynamics of this election, Romney needed to show he was - by contrast - more thoughtful and more intelligent than Obama. He did that, removing one of the big questions voters had about him going in.


104 posted on 10/06/2012 9:34:58 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: lonevoice

ping for good news!


105 posted on 10/06/2012 9:40:44 AM PDT by Pride in the USA (With Romney - Ryan you get change back.)
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To: chuckee

They are lying dems. That’s how they manage to rig the polls.
Do you really think 11% of conservatives strongly support the president? C’mon...


106 posted on 10/06/2012 9:43:17 AM PDT by UltraV ("Romney was channeling Reagan. Obama was channeling Biden." - Glenn Reynolds)
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To: AFPhys

It’s looking like Romney drank Obama’s milkshake.


107 posted on 10/06/2012 9:44:21 AM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: AFPhys

I must be the only person in the free world that doesn’t give a rat’s ass that Mittens said 47% of the US is deriving some form of support from the government. Or think that it hurt his campaign one iota. Because clearly, it did not.


108 posted on 10/06/2012 9:44:33 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NE1, NC, FL, VA, OH, IA OR NV = 272EV)
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To: nhwingut

nhwingut wrote:
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I agree. The performance(s) during the debate were striking.

The press keeps relying on the fact that the challenger historically wins the first debate. This may be true, but there is a huge caveat.

What the press is missing (on purpose?) is that never in history has a sitting president, who was hailed as such a intellectual heavyweight, come out looking so bad. And never has a challenger, framed as a goofy, gaffe prone Thurston Howell III caricature, come out looking so presidential.

The media-created images of the two men were the polar opposites of the men on stage. The media, even more than Obama, was shown to be frauds. They (and $150 million in Obama ads) had developed a Hollywood version of Romney - an out of touch Gordon Gecko plutocrat, with a touch of Mormom weirdness. It all blew up in their faces on Wednesday.

I think that is what the Romney camp was counting on all along - and why they held off on advertising, etc. Chris Christie had hinted it by saying, “On Thursday this race will be turned upside down.”

I think Romney takes a lead for good and does not look back. This will be remembered forever. Books will be written based on this moment in time.
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I agree with your assessment 100%. VERY well stated!


109 posted on 10/06/2012 9:52:13 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: OrangeHoof

No, Obama need all 57 states to win.


110 posted on 10/06/2012 9:52:26 AM PDT by jennychase
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To: BlueStateRightist

Don’t forget that the average poll response in 2012 vs calls made is 9%.


111 posted on 10/06/2012 9:52:26 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AndyTheBear

The percent of “Republicans” not voting for Romney is the same number of “conservatives” that strongly approve of the president. So, they are most likely Lefty liars rather than real conservatives.


112 posted on 10/06/2012 9:53:04 AM PDT by UltraV ("Romney was channeling Reagan. Obama was channeling Biden." - Glenn Reynolds)
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To: OrangeHoof

Most in this country have a very short attention span. Most won’t watch the second debate and I still refuse to believe that 2% of people in this country would throw away a vote for “other”. But then, as long as they live in a state that doesn’t matter, go for it.


113 posted on 10/06/2012 9:53:24 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: TexasFreeper2009

For one, I don’t think he’ll be discussing the legality of blasphemy in an official capacity like 0 did...


114 posted on 10/06/2012 9:55:36 AM PDT by UltraV ("Romney was channeling Reagan. Obama was channeling Biden." - Glenn Reynolds)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Did you post on the right thread?


115 posted on 10/06/2012 9:57:09 AM PDT by UltraV ("Romney was channeling Reagan. Obama was channeling Biden." - Glenn Reynolds)
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To: AFPhys

By the way, does it strike anybody else here as odd that none of the national lamestream media outlets have yet released one single post-debate poll??? Either Romney’s numbers are leaping off the charts and the media simply doesn’t want to report them, or they’re waiting for some time to pass to bake the phony jobs numbers into their polling data to make Obama look like he’s “holding strong”. With their polling credibility already under fire as we enter the final month before the election, it’ll be very interesting to see what polling numbers the lamestream media decides to report.


116 posted on 10/06/2012 9:58:59 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: nhwingut
I think Romney takes a lead for good and does not look back. This will be remembered forever. Books will be written based on this moment in time.

This will be like a 1/4 mile or 200m or 400m race, Romney will continue pulling away and Obama won't be able to mount a challenge.........

117 posted on 10/06/2012 10:06:01 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: chuckee

Richard Lugar also may be voting for Obama, or has he said otherwise?


118 posted on 10/06/2012 10:29:33 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: UltraV
Black female shouting OBAMAPHONES = more votes for Romney.
119 posted on 10/06/2012 10:35:50 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SamAdams76
As a conservative, I'm tired of seeing the black people being written off and it pains me to see the way of life so many of them are forced into by misguided liberal policies.

It's not that blacks have been "written off" by Republicans; they just won't consider an alternative message. They would have to admit they are wrong.

120 posted on 10/06/2012 10:37:16 AM PDT by Theodore R. (`)
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To: Cheerio
I believe it will cost Obama votes, not gain.
121 posted on 10/06/2012 10:37:21 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: who knows what evil?

You should see gas prices here in SoCal, its over 5 bucks a gallon(In some places already 6) but Obama will still be here on Monday and people are still going to swoon for him. People should start putting sticky notes on the gas pumps reminding people that Obama refused to allow the Keystone Pipeline to be built


122 posted on 10/06/2012 10:51:12 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SamAdams76
As a conservative, I'm tired of seeing the black people being written off and it pains me to see the way of life so many of them are forced into by misguided liberal policies.

I agree with your sentiment. Good for us, good for them, good for our nation. The problem has always been one of approach. Most pleas for Republicans to woo black voters have been disguised calls to be Democrat-lite in policy and rhetoric. You are not suggesting this, but there has been the assumption in the media and politics that "reaching out to blacks" equals handing out goodies. To some extent, this is true. The Republicans did not abandon blacks, their platform works as well for them as for everyone else. Blacks, as well as other groups of non-white, non-married or non-Christian voters, simply have a different view of government and society in general.

The electorate is becoming more and more racially divided. This is generally embraced by the Democrats, particularly with a mixed-race POTUS in office. Their rhetoric has become very anti-traditionalist and, by extension, anti-white. I agree that somehow convincing even a modest percentage of black voters that Republican/conservative ideals are good for them would be a great thing. It is difficult to do. The Republican Party would do well to amplify its appeal to white voters, actually. There are many whites who will vote for Romney or simply not vote this year because they have been turned off and angered by the racial aggression from the Obama administration and media.

Republicans should realize that a lot of their current supporters arrived on the Right initially due to being fed up with affirmative action, racial politics and the pushing of white guilt in their schools and culture. As a young man, I was a liberal. After being constantly told I was the enemy, I realized that the Democratic Party was not for me. We should not alienate blacks on purpose, and I liked Romney's approach during his NAACP speech, but we must not alienate whites at all. The real danger to the Republican party is that it becomes the centrist party and an increasing push for a White/Right third party begins to split the conservative vote and ensure that Democrats win national elections easily.

123 posted on 10/06/2012 10:56:11 AM PDT by Cap74 (You can disagree with me. You can attack me. Do not lie to me.)
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To: chuckee
Who are these 11% of Republicans not supporting Romney?

I'm guessing a good portion are the self-righteous "Christians" who "could NEVER vote for a Mormon" - because, in their infinite wisdom, Mormon's - The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints - 'don't believe in Jesus Christ.

The poor - and the ignorant - are with us always.

See my tag line

124 posted on 10/06/2012 11:15:28 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does)
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To: SamAdams76
As a conservative, I'm tired of seeing the black people being written off and it pains me to see the way of life so many of them are forced into by misguided liberal policies.

As a one-time pecan orchard manager in Central Alabama, I've extensive experience with farm labor and rural blacks.

Their poverty is appalling -- both in terms of pocketbook and spirit. There is virtually no interest in education and/or advancement. Instead, their focus is on a welfare check (or two or three) and a job of sorts that brings in a supplemental paycheck sufficient to fund Friday night.

The women are vastly more reliable than the men. And, by generation, the older generation vastly more responsible than the younger.

Lunch-time conversations among the men usually revolve around the "papers" that their women (or prospective women) have -- meaning which programs they qualify for. Aside from the grandfathers and grandmothers, virtually nobody is married.

At one time, during segregation, Montgomery had a thriving "black business district" -- a mile-or-two east of "downtown". Complete with high-rise buildings, a hotel and a full complement of retailers. There were scores, perhaps hundreds, of well-to-do black businessmen then. They are all gone now.

In their stead, perhaps, is the faculty at Alabama State -- engrossed in teaching victimology and "social justice" racism. Along with the black politicians who dominate the black counties -- characters like "Senatuh Sahnders", the Mahatma of Dallas County and the Mayor of Whitehall. All corrupt...to their very core.

In my dealings with several hundred different black people over eight years' time, I became close to perhaps a dozen -- all from the older generation, respectful of maybe a dozen more (including the County Sheriff, a fine man). And I came across exactly two (count 'em, 2!) young men who had any ambition at all to make something of themselves.

I helped one earn a scholarship to Auburn and the other to find a good job with some upward mobility. In the latter case, I had to fire him first -- to get his attention.

Indeed, it is tragic -- yea, criminal -- what fifty years of liberalism have done to the black family. They are left with a slothful dependence and a generally worse economic condition than what they experienced during Jim Crow. And are painfully devoid of community and personal pride, ambition or accomplishment.

And, if my experience means anything, it's going to be a long, slow slog before black America starts responding to a message of independence and responsibility for self. But, the very fact that you can identify "Allen West, Thomas Sowell, Herman Cain, Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, JC Watts, to name a few" means that the migration may have begun.

Republican politicians need to learn that the way to win over black audiences is not by out-pandering liberals but is, instead, concentrate on the conservative message...and what it might mean to black ambitions.

Sorry for the extended respons, got a lot off my chest...

125 posted on 10/06/2012 11:33:59 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: AFPhys
Loved seeing all the ROMNEY-RYAN signs and billboards on my way up I-94 and I-43 through Wisconsin yesterday on my way to the western Upper Penninsula yesterday! Didn't see a single Obama sign or bumper sticker from Wisconsin's southern border all the way through past Green Bay and to Menominee, Michigan!

Truly hope that means Wisconsin's in play for Romney-Ryan.

126 posted on 10/06/2012 11:42:10 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: AFPhys

Did this poll include the re-action to the unemployment numbers?


127 posted on 10/06/2012 11:43:29 AM PDT by zt1053
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To: AFPhys
Photobucket Waiting for the November numbers.
128 posted on 10/06/2012 11:51:20 AM PDT by RetSignman (REMEMBER THE 2010 MOVEMENT)
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To: nhwingut

I think you are right! Obama has made history in a way he never dreamed...as has the msm.


129 posted on 10/06/2012 11:54:03 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I do it every time I get gas and have for quite some time. Not about the Keystone thought I may add that from here on out.


130 posted on 10/06/2012 11:56:02 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: StAnDeliver

You aren’t alone....as much as the media trumpeted that comment up, the only people who were really put off by it were the ones who weren’t voting for Romney anyway.


131 posted on 10/06/2012 11:56:16 AM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: Cruising For Freedom

Does anyone know how a Rasmussen call to poll is shown on my caller ID on my phone? I don’t want to miss a Rasmussen call!! Is the incoming call identified as from Rasmussen or unknown caller or by a phone number..or what?


132 posted on 10/06/2012 12:10:28 PM PDT by itssme
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To: riri

From what Im hearing people are starting to put up those sticky notes comparing the gas prices from when Obama became President to now..will that make any difference, who knows..people here still go ga ga for this guy, he’s coming here on Monday and will clog up traffic yet again to raise more money from his Hollywood leftist jerks


133 posted on 10/06/2012 12:12:39 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: okie01
At one time, during segregation, Montgomery had a thriving "black business district" -- a mile-or-two east of "downtown". Complete with high-rise buildings, a hotel and a full complement of retailers. There were scores, perhaps hundreds, of well-to-do black businessmen then. They are all gone now.

Ann Coulter discusses that phenomenon directly within the opening chapters of her new release, Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama.


134 posted on 10/06/2012 12:22:42 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Obama better hope a Kicked Ass is covered under Obamacare. -- Dennis Miller re debate 1)
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To: keats5

“have 3 adult children...none make enough to pay income taxes...are as conservative as they come...support Romney”

Thanks to you for that anecdotal, but confirming report, to the point made that Romney realizes he stepped on his own meaning in those remarks about the 47% who don’t pay taxes being the sum of those who will all vote for Obama.

Romney/Ryan have realized that and have both said he didn’t say what he meant by putting it the way he did.

Around here, though, usually one is attacked for daring to agree with R/R that he didn’t state it correctly and his intended point got lost.

Your post is one of the few that tells it like it REALLY is...


135 posted on 10/06/2012 12:44:06 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: AFPhys

Would love to see that preference cascade in my lifetime!


136 posted on 10/06/2012 12:58:22 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: keats5
I agree. My son and his wife have 4 small children. Both work but don't pay federal income taxes. They are both voting for Romney. I know retirees who don't pay either who are Romney supporters.

Romney was right to take back the 47% remark. That's not to say fhat he was completely wrong. He wasn't. There is a parasitic class that will never vote for him. But that class is not defined by paying or not paying federal income taxes.

137 posted on 10/06/2012 1:02:52 PM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama. GO MITT!!)
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To: keats5
I agree. My son and his wife have 4 small children. Both work but don't pay federal income taxes. They are both voting for Romney. I know retirees who don't pay either who are Romney supporters.

Romney was right to take back the 47% remark. That's not to say fhat he was completely wrong. He wasn't. There is a parasitic class that will never vote for him. But that class is not defined by paying or not paying federal income taxes.

138 posted on 10/06/2012 1:02:52 PM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama. GO MITT!!)
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To: keats5
I agree. My son and his wife have 4 small children. Both work but don't pay federal income taxes. They are both voting for Romney. I know retirees who don't pay either who are Romney supporters.

Romney was right to take back the 47% remark. That's not to say fhat he was completely wrong. He wasn't. There is a parasitic class that will never vote for him. But that class is not defined by paying or not paying federal income taxes.

139 posted on 10/06/2012 1:03:01 PM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama. GO MITT!!)
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To: okie01

“Sorry for the extended respons, got a lot off my chest...”

I think your response hit the nail on the head. I agree with it from my own observations.


140 posted on 10/06/2012 1:09:08 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: TornadoAlley3

IMHO it’s due more to the debate reaction. Although that didn’t hurt. :)


141 posted on 10/06/2012 1:57:01 PM PDT by UltraV ("Romney was channeling Reagan. Obama was channeling Biden." - Glenn Reynolds)
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To: AFPhys

” Among those not affiliated with either major party, Romney leads by 16.”

Watch those graphs and charts, folks. This is starting to look good.


142 posted on 10/06/2012 2:28:27 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SamAdams76

[Good thing I have a two-week trip to Hawaii coming up to take my mind off of it for a while.]

You are so lucky!


143 posted on 10/06/2012 2:30:20 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: SamAdams76

[Good thing I have a two-week trip to Hawaii coming up to take my mind off of it for a while.]

You are so lucky!


144 posted on 10/06/2012 2:47:52 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: erod

For those of you expecting a Biden failure, give it some thought. The man did well in 2008. He can be a worthy opponent in a debate. Ryan isn’t taking him lightly, and neither should we.


145 posted on 10/06/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: chuckee
Who are these 11% of Republicans not supporting Romney?

Just look around. There are a number of them here...

146 posted on 10/06/2012 3:23:00 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Very true...however, I don’t think a candidate would lose the Electoral vote if they win the overall popular vote by at least a full percentage point or more. Gore vs. Bush was a fraction of a percent in the difference. The state by state polls are not going to be run as often as the national polling so this is going to be the best indicator this point going forward.


147 posted on 10/06/2012 3:30:49 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: bcsco

Yes...he came across that way - although the things he said were actually quite ridiculous...such as pounding away at how the Constitution makes it very clear that the VP’s powers and role are entirely executive, not legislative, when the opposite is true... (any executive authority is from acting on behalf of the President as part of his administration...he has none of his own authority)however, the media presented him as coming across as “in command” and “more knowledgeable” about these issues...when in fact it was bunk. He can come across, however, as being very knowledgeable and in command...Ryan will have to point out the inaccuracies and keep in mind he doesn’t want to come across as being a student being schooled by the school master.


148 posted on 10/06/2012 3:35:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: bcsco

He has a record to run on this time and he’s going to have a hell of a time defending it. OTOH you’re right I would never advise Ryan to take things lightly with Biden or underestimate him. But, I think it’s justifiable to have cautiously optimistic feelings about a Biden Beatdown.


149 posted on 10/06/2012 3:50:55 PM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: AFPhys

Since this was taken today, I would conclude that few are buying the latest BLS job numbers.


150 posted on 10/06/2012 4:15:29 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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