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Extremism in the defense of RINOism is no virtue
Renew America ^ | 06 Oct 2012 | Tim Dunkin

Posted on 10/07/2012 5:15:05 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy

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1 posted on 10/07/2012 5:15:08 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Conservatives are going to have to face facts, the GOP has no desire to represent us and our future with the party looks pretty bleak.

Just the other night I saw some young republican leader on the History channel announcing that he’s gay and he wants to get married some day.


2 posted on 10/07/2012 5:33:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

“Just the other night I saw some young republican leader on the History channel announcing that he’s gay and he wants to get married some day.”

As long as he tells the woman he intends to marry that he’s queer, I’m fine with him marrying.


3 posted on 10/07/2012 5:43:45 AM PDT by Holly_P
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“But after the election, conservatives and liberty lovers need to stop talking about it, and start getting serious about cleaning house in the Republican Party at every level, or if prevented from doing so by GOP-E legerdemain, then creating a new Party that will represent the common man who is himself represented in the Republican base. If the GOP-E wants to keep the Republican Party as their own personal yacht, then maybe we should let them, while we build our own electoral speedboat.”

The writer has a good point here.


4 posted on 10/07/2012 6:01:50 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Excellent Article. Thank you. I am told by the elite Republicans, and others, that I MUST vote for Romney. I believe I was told the same thing in 2008 when McCain was definitely not my choice — MUST vote for him even though he wasn’t trying to be elected.
These elites have probably told me this every time I have voted for a president. All elections are MUST vote Republican elections. This way they force conservatives to vote the way the elites want. And we stay on the their plantation and say “Yes, Master.”


5 posted on 10/07/2012 6:11:57 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: winkadink

This certainly brought back memories of Barry Goldwater and his indelible quotes. THis one applies even more today:

“I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is “needed” before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents’ “interests,” I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.


6 posted on 10/07/2012 6:18:59 AM PDT by plangent
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To: plangent

Seems to me that both sides have lost sight of our founder’s vision. They want everything done immediately when our founders designed a system that is supposed to work slowly. They want a strong president who can force our will when our founders created a system where all branches are supposed to be equal.


7 posted on 10/07/2012 6:28:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Someday beaten spouse conservatives will finally get the one head stomping from the GOP-E that convinces them to leave the house and not look back. In the meantime the apologies, flowers and candy days are here again and oh, by the way, the GOP-E is having it’s latest good best friend Willard over for dinner- so suck it up, get busy conservatives cleaning house and cooking up a meal.


8 posted on 10/07/2012 6:30:33 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Pragmatism is superior to socialism


9 posted on 10/07/2012 6:33:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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But after the election, conservatives and liberty lovers need to stop talking about it

Right after conservatism gets slapped in the face one more time. This was a great article until this point.

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, "If not us, who? If not now, when?"

10 posted on 10/07/2012 6:40:21 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: winkadink
Excellent Article. Thank you. I am told by the elite Republicans, and others, that I MUST vote for Romney. I believe I was told the same thing in 2008 when McCain was definitely not my choice — MUST vote for him even though he wasn’t trying to be elected. These elites have probably told me this every time I have voted for a president. All elections are MUST vote Republican elections. This way they force conservatives to vote the way the elites want. And we stay on the their plantation and say “Yes, Master.”

Nobody's telling you you MUST vote Romney - they're just pointing out that for every two that don't, it counts as a vote for Zero. If you are fine with Zero having another term, with no reason to try to "moderate" himself, then pull the lever for Perot whoever you feel good about.

11 posted on 10/07/2012 6:50:02 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: winkadink

No one’s telling you that. We all know what we’re getting with Romney. No one’s fooled here. But we also know that this is a constitutional Republic with divided powers, and it is not Romney that makes the laws, but rather Congress. A conservative Congress will give Romney conservative bills for Romney to sign. Will he veto them? I lean to the side of doubtful.

Contrast that to Zero. He doesn’t care who’s in Congress, because he has no respect for separation of powers, and will continue to act in a dictatorial manner if he gets a second term, except this time he will act with impunity. And if he does crash the economy as he is trying to do, good luck getting him out of there in his lifetime.

So on that note, what have YOU done to get a conservative Congress in the event that Romney should win? Have you gotten involved, or sat around and run your flap-trap? There is no entitlement here, no ‘someone needs to’ out there to make it happen. It’s up to you and me, simple as that.

Get off your butt and make it happen.


12 posted on 10/07/2012 7:02:10 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: GenXteacher

We are already cleaning house, and we are winning. Maybe not the Presidency yet, but we certainly can influence congressional races, like beating Lugar in Indiana. Don’t confuse a short term speed bump with the long term goal.


13 posted on 10/07/2012 7:04:27 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: plangent

Such plain constitutional speech, and those who would speak it, have been virtually eradicated from the GOP.


14 posted on 10/07/2012 7:33:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

One of the most important things for conservatives to do is to “separate the sheep from the goats” in and in the proximity of the Republican party.

This does not mean just officeholders and candidates who are establishment RINOs, but also the legion of consultants, Beltway bandits, Hill Rats, lobbyists, spin doctors and pundits.

In effect, we need a 100-point worksheet for each and every one of these individuals, so that they can be rated from “conservative”, through “mixed”, to “entrenched party parasite” and “RINO”.

Importantly, it is *not* just a snapshot of what we think they currently are; but also a history of what they have been and done in the past.

The list also has to be broken down into “cardinal sins”, “ordinal sins”, “duplicity”, who they have formed alliances and enemies with (the company they keep), and willingness to compromise core values.

It would take quite a while to create such biographies, but the end result will be that, for example, when a conservative finally becomes president, he will know that certain Republican “fixtures”, are in fact malignant forces that will work against him.

He will not want them in his administration, or working for or being paid by the party, representing the party in public, or having their campaigns funded by the party.

This in turn will create an essential thing to political success: party discipline. You only hire people you can trust, and from the start they know that if they cross the line, they will not only be out on the street but will never work for the party again.


15 posted on 10/07/2012 7:55:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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"Various are the pleas and arguments which men of corrupt minds frequently urge against yielding obedience to the just and holy commands of God."

- George Whitefield

Some FReepers have told me that its "pragmatic" to accept abortion as a condition of winning.
16 posted on 10/07/2012 8:14:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

GREAT quote.


17 posted on 10/07/2012 8:55:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: bert

Pragmatism leads to socialism, and socialism leads to communism.


18 posted on 10/07/2012 8:56:15 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: cripplecreek
Re: your tagline

What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?

That one question, asked by Jesus Christ Himself, leaves every supposedly "pragmatic" Utilitarian argument lying in smoking ruins.

If one looks at the long term, it turns out they weren't practical at all. They were simply short-sighted unto blindness, to their own destruction.

The natural law is that you reap what you sow. Everything reproduces after its kind. That is simply the way God made the world we live in.

19 posted on 10/07/2012 9:02:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: EternalVigilance
That one question, asked by Jesus Christ Himself, leaves every supposedly "pragmatic" Utilitarian argument lying in smoking ruins.

Which explains why I get attacked about the tagline at least once a week.
20 posted on 10/07/2012 9:17:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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