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Turkish Jets Force Syrian Plane (after departing Moscow) to Land over Suspicious Cargo (Weapons)
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Posted on 10/10/2012 12:39:58 PM PDT by silentknight

Turkish state TV: Turkish fighter jets have forced a Syrian passenger plane coming from Moscow to land at the Ankara airport. 2 hours ago


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aviation; esb; fighterjets; missileparts; syria; syriaplane; syriaplaneforcedown; syriaplaneintercept; turkey; waronterror
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To: GladesGuru

LOl :D


51 posted on 10/10/2012 2:46:48 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: crosslink; no-to-illegals; FARS; All

I wonder if this is why the Russian airliner was carrying repair parts for missiles? I have read elsewhere that a lot of the Libyan armaments were deteriorated from storage, or Gaddafi had stored some components one place and the others in other places. So perhaps someone needed certain parts to make missiles operational because they never found both or all missile caches.


52 posted on 10/10/2012 3:11:16 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Vigilanteman
If the Turks are still our allies, they'd do the same thing.

Well, if I understand it correctly, the Syrian passenger jet was an Airbus A320, the same model flown by countless American airlines, which will even be built in the US soon. So, no secrets there ;)


53 posted on 10/10/2012 3:14:27 PM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: irishtenor

They use to give wounded soldiers and pregnant women one Guinness per day, it’s high in iron (for real). They would crack a raw egg in the Guinness for pregnant women. No myth.


54 posted on 10/10/2012 3:15:14 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“Russia doesn’t need to use passenger planes to smuggle arms to Syria”

True, but the Chechens would.


55 posted on 10/10/2012 3:15:22 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: penelopesire; maggief; SE Mom; hoosiermama; stephenjohnbanker; Lakeshark; STARWISE; silentknight

What to make of this?

Interesting info on this thread.


56 posted on 10/10/2012 3:19:53 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

the MIG-25 that did MACH-3 over the Sinai had to have it’s engine replaced, that is where that story came from

but, it did do MACH-3 in 1973


57 posted on 10/10/2012 3:20:50 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: silentknight

Is the coarse of these planes over sensitive sites in Turkey....or newly sensitive sites -as in training camps for Syrian rebels on the boarder?


58 posted on 10/10/2012 3:21:54 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: RaceBannon

So did the XB-70 and SR-71, but you didn’t have replace the engines every time you punched the throttle...
Oh, and they did it in the 1960s.


59 posted on 10/10/2012 3:28:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: gleeaikin

I think you are correct, the question is who will end p with the operational hardware? What will it be used for? What is Putin up too?


60 posted on 10/10/2012 3:31:11 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: onyx

Yes...Ian going to have to research this and review the Stratfor Stuff...


61 posted on 10/10/2012 3:45:27 PM PDT by Shady (Hey, King Bozo Osmocote....you can't hide the truth anymore..)
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To: Truth29
Russia needs to send a discrete message to Turkey not to mess with international flights to and from Russia, something that will get the Turks attention.

That Turkey was willing to mess with the Russians at all says something about what they think they know.

62 posted on 10/10/2012 3:58:24 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Teach a man to fish and you lose a Democratic voter.)
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To: Fitzy_888; All

Beer is also rich with electrolytes which is why a cool one is so welcome on a very hot day. Home brew is even richer in assorted nutrients. Just don’t overdo it. A beer would also relax an anxious new mother and increase her fluid consumption, essential for milk production. Been there, done that (the milk production, not the beer ;-) )

My late husband had a 6’7” friend nicknamed Oop as in Ally Oop the comic character. For some reason he had access to a brewery when a teen. He would scoop up beer vat residue (full of brewer’s yeast) by the handful and eat it. Don’t know if he got so big because of it, or if he craved it because he was growing so big.


63 posted on 10/10/2012 4:08:56 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Candor7

I think you’re right


64 posted on 10/10/2012 4:24:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: gleeaikin

Note here I’m not a stout fan, but if you have the chance visit the Guinnes factory in Dublin, drink a Guinness that’s hours old. In the South you’ll drink Beamish which is like a Guinness with a slap in the face -kidding.


65 posted on 10/10/2012 4:30:50 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: expat2

Several of my ancestors fought in these conflicts back when the Czars were still running things.


66 posted on 10/10/2012 4:56:14 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: RaceBannon

[but, it did do MACH-3 in 1973]

I guess that made a big boom. I wonder if an Egyptian was flying it or some East Bloc pilot. I used to hear stories about Russians talking on the North Vietnamese fighter frequencies.


67 posted on 10/10/2012 5:09:57 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: RitchieAprile

“of course the russians might not take kindly to turkey
rummaging through their secret stuff.”

No worries. I’m sure the Turks will give it back.


68 posted on 10/10/2012 5:17:57 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: irishtenor

And the Scots and Irish wear kilts to prevent injury from falling in a drunken stupor while fumbling with a zipper, plus the added bonus is that there is no sound to alert the sheep!


69 posted on 10/10/2012 5:18:04 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: PastorBooks

“There is a theory that they used vacuum tubes to protect against EMP pulses.”

So then,,, my ‘56 Fender Pro Amp will still work if we’re hit by an EMP pulse attack? Cool! If there’s any electricity.


70 posted on 10/10/2012 5:26:15 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Go Russia. I hope they start nuking the muzzies asap. Hell, they could double team them with the Israelis. Lord knows odumbi won’t lift a finger, well maybe the middle one.


71 posted on 10/10/2012 5:58:15 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Little Ray

ah the good old 60s, the peak of American Engineering. We put real spacecraft on Mars and found life (exotic chemistry is what it was called), we put men on the moon, we built those giant Valkrye Bombers that could fly mach3. Those were some bad ass times all right. oh yeah and we build little Davy Crocketts too.

But nowadays we no longer lead the world, we have to hope others do what needs to be done. Hopefully Russia will start crushing moslum butt along the same time the Israelis start it up.


72 posted on 10/10/2012 6:07:00 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: expat2

I’d love to see the Russians wup Turkish butt. The Turks have been nothing but back stabbing trators to Nato and the U.S. Back when the attacked the Greeks and later when they refused to help us attacking Saddam.

A round of Vodka for everybody.


73 posted on 10/10/2012 6:13:18 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“‘56 Fender Pro Amp”

Yep, you’re good to go. Just don’t have it plugged in when the shock hits or it’s fried with the rest of our modern junk.

Someone needs to build a vacuum-tube Freeper Computer so we won’t miss out on the forum in case of an EMP.

The servers are already vacuum-tube powered if I recall... :)

(Just joking!!!)


74 posted on 10/10/2012 6:16:01 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: wolf78

Not in the plane design; in the cargo hold.


76 posted on 10/10/2012 6:58:30 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks silentknight.


77 posted on 10/10/2012 7:06:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: silentknight

“Reports that Russia may have been smuggling weapons in on a passenger airline”

So says a paid Soros hack in the left wing media. What else you got?


78 posted on 10/10/2012 7:11:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: silentknight

Russian embassy in Ankara, Turkey, demands explanation on grounded Syrian jet carrying 17 Russian citizens - @AJELive


79 posted on 10/10/2012 7:13:14 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: chris37
If you try real hard, its like Hitlery isn't even in the picture. But it requies focus.

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80 posted on 10/10/2012 7:14:10 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: chris37

"What?"

81 posted on 10/10/2012 7:25:00 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Delta 21

I can see where Hillary’s focus is...yikes


82 posted on 10/10/2012 7:31:35 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: silentknight; All
Let other NATO members pick up the bill now.

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OBOZO | IslamoRealism | IslamoNausea

83 posted on 10/10/2012 7:32:06 PM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: Delta 21

I can see what her focus is.

What a dirty old man she is.


84 posted on 10/10/2012 7:59:09 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Yehuda

Look, Hillary! Boobies!


85 posted on 10/10/2012 8:01:16 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

LOL!

The only boob she doesn’t oogle is her husband!


86 posted on 10/10/2012 8:16:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: PastorBooks; Vigilanteman; tcrlaf
There is a theory that they used vacuum tubes to protect against EMP pulses. The MIG-25 wouldn’t have been vulnerable to them.

My first steps in electronics were done with vacuum tubes. Transistors were around, but I just didn't have access to them for experiments.

In 1970's there was nothing wrong with using a tube-based radio. Many people when hearing "tubes" are probably thinking about something like this - big and fragile. But in reality by that time subminiature tubes already existed, and they were very competitive with early transistors. They easily operated into VHF (and later all the way into millimeter wave,) they were resilient to EMP, they had low noise, and they could be manufactured in any quantity on simple equipment. My first receiver was using just one tube, and it worked very well. You couldn't do that with a single transistor of that era; its h21 sucked, and it was all over the map. Development of ICs led to invention of many reliable and repeatable circuits that threw transistors at the problem; in the end we got the OAs of today, as well as other BJT and FET based analog circuits.

Of course today the quantity converted into quality. Modern DSP-based radios cannot be implemented with tubes. But in 1970's it was a very reasonable, albeit conservative, solution. Today vacuum tubes remain the only viable candidates when you need at least tens of kW of RF power, and when you need lots of power at lots of GHz. Tubes like TWT are operating on unique principles and are offering incredible gain. Tubes called "magnetrons" are powering all our microwave ovens - and plenty of radars. Tubes are not dead yet; semiconductors are doing very good in small signal environment, but they have nothing to offer when you need a 100 kW (V)HF amplifier. Solid state PAs exist for 10 kW, for example; they use power combiners; I worked with those, but the cost of them may make them uncompetitive when the tube-based amplifier needs only one or two glass or ceramic tubes.

87 posted on 10/10/2012 8:26:29 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: PastorBooks; riverdawg; tcrlaf; Vigilanteman

Mig-25 was far from being that much an UFO hi-tec thing but vaccuum tubes were there on purpose.
First reason it was an extremely fast Mach3 aircraft. Flying that fast means a lot of heat from air friction. Semi-conductors and microchips as a more advanced alternative to tubes aren’t 100% reliable in that environment.
Second reason it was designed to repell a first strike with B-58 and B-70 bombers. It means operations in a conditions of a nuclear exchange. And vacuum tubes are absolute immune to EMP effects.
Third reason Mig-25 was a huge bird. It could easily carry heavier tube electronics.

At the end it proved a pretty effective even decades after phased by original users.
Iraqi’s claim Mig-25s radars had a nice range and easily burned through jammers. It is rumored Mig-25 had a first kill in a Gulf Was (USN F-18).


88 posted on 10/10/2012 8:45:30 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: silentknight
Interesting that this happened on the 27th anniversary of the US Navy intercepting an Egyptian 737 carrying the Achille Lauro terrorists: 27 years ago today, the Achille Lauro incident: when the U.S. Navy forced an Egyptair Boeing 737 off course
89 posted on 10/10/2012 8:52:25 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Their slogan was, “Guinness is good for you”. Imagine advertising beer like that today? They’d be sued out of business;)


90 posted on 10/10/2012 11:11:20 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: silentknight




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I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis. Obamisms

Let me be clear, Obama's catchphrases
White House home brew may or may not be legal Obama chillin but it gets us there.



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91 posted on 10/10/2012 11:58:38 PM PDT by bd476
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To: silentknight

Just wanted to point out that world wars solve two very crucial problems for the socialist/marxists.

1: Reset the whole economic collapse thing to zero - since countries at war can’t be expected to go good on bank loans to enemy countries.

2: Directly address the whole overpopulation issue.

Now before the accusations of tinfoil start flying, the Socialist/Marxists of the world have done it all before. And lest we forget, their great half-white hope is about to lose big. And their plans go south with him.

Gee...I wonder if their is a connection between the ramp-up of hostilities at this particular juncture for a reason...


92 posted on 10/11/2012 12:37:46 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Fred Nerks

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50087

To better understand what happened in Libya, you must first understand the context in which it took place. Ambassador Stevens was probably at least as valuable as a U.S. intelligence asset/operative as he was a diplomat. He operated the Iran desk early in his career and eventually became one of our top “go to” experts on all things Iran. Mr. Stevens served in countries throughout the mid-east before eventually settling in Syria for several years. He was well known and respected in the region. He also lived in Washington D.C. for several years while serving as the Director of Multilateral Nuclear and Security Affairs. His little black book with the contact numbers for the good and bad actors and their agents had become pretty extensive; but… here’s where the plot thickens. It appears that Mr. Stevens might not have initially entered Libya to stop the flow of weapons, but to help funnel them under the direction of higher ups in the Obama regime. He was tasked with coordinating, overseeing and facilitating the movement of the rebel fighters from across North Africa through eastern Libya.

The troops were armed with weapons from Gaddafi’s extensive hidden arsenals and spirited to staging areas in the Syrian refugee camps in Turkey. If this administration had needed to go to Congress over the last year and ask for money and troops to start a war with Russia, on Syrian soil do you think they would have gotten it? Not a chance, the electorate would never have put up with it, but, this administration’s handlers didn’t need to. They just got creative. Does Iran-Contra come to mind, anyone? All they have done thus far is ask for a few paltry millions for administrative costs to “support the Syrian Freedom Fighters.”

From up thread. This is bound to get really complex and very dirty. The Russians are pished.Obama is playing with fire, but the question is Stephen John and Fred, will a war with Syria and a cold war with Russia and China in favor of the World Caliphate of Obama and King Faisal be the October surprise of Islamic world conquest? Things may shortly get very dirty.


93 posted on 10/11/2012 12:56:11 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
...but the question is Stephen John and Fred, will a war with Syria and a cold war with Russia and China in favor of the World Caliphate of Obama and King Faisal be the October surprise of Islamic world conquest? Things may shortly get very dirty.

OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake America. And a potential nightmare for the whole world. The man is insane and only evil can come of it, if the worst doesn't happen it will only be because he's been locked into a rubber room.

94 posted on 10/11/2012 1:37:47 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: silentknight

needs some paragraphs


95 posted on 10/11/2012 3:01:56 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Candor7; Fred Nerks

” From up thread. This is bound to get really complex and very dirty. The Russians are pished.Obama is playing with fire, but the question is Stephen John and Fred, will a war with Syria and a cold war with Russia and China in favor of the World Caliphate of Obama and King Faisal be the October surprise of Islamic world conquest? Things may shortly get very dirty.”

Obama has caused us deep trouble all over the world. He is an unwanted child, and spoiled rotten all of his life. He is unstable, and a Marxist and a Muslim. ANYTHING could happen.
NOTHING is beneath him, and NOTHING he might do would surprise me. He will probably lose this election, because too many Americans now know who and what he is. If he starts a war?

What you can be sure of, is that even if Obama loses, he has several months to badly damage America, or start a war, internal or external.


96 posted on 10/11/2012 11:13:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: RKBA Democrat; RitchieAprile; no-to-illegals; FARS; All

Here is an update on the Syrian plane story with more information on the cargo and diplomatic contact between Turkey and Russia.

http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-syrian-plane-carrying-ammunition-154739782.html


97 posted on 10/11/2012 12:25:53 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

So far the story says the plane was Syrian. But the Russians know as well as anyone that if weapons get caught on a civilian transport then the normal international protections of civil vehicles goes out the door. Shep’s just now saying that the cargo wasn’t weapons but nevertheless war material, radios, etc. And if the NATO Turks want us to help they had best do their part to keep the new stuff out of Syria.


98 posted on 10/11/2012 12:50:28 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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