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Live Thread: Vice Presidential Debate 9:00 P.M. EDT 10/11/12 Joe Biden vs. Paul Ryan
Commission on Presidential Debates ^ | Thursday, October 11, 2012

Posted on 10/11/2012 5:10:45 PM PDT by kristinn

All debates will take place from 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time.

Vice presidential debate:
Thursday, October 11
Centre College, Danville, KY
Moderator: Martha Raddatz, Senior Foreign Affairs Correspondent, ABC News

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; 2012vpdebate; angryjoe; biden; emo; live; oct11; paulryan; popcorn; standupchuck; thread; vpdebate
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To: kristinn
The conduct of tonight's debate serves as a timely warning to Romney about the perils awaiting him in the last two debates.

Romney's "reach across the aisle" side should be shut down. This should now be obvious to him.

1,101 posted on 10/11/2012 8:49:10 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Seriously, Is Sarah running for office?


1,102 posted on 10/11/2012 8:50:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: AU72

That focus group was not very informed nor educated.. they didn’t know when biden was lying? And anyone who is not a far left liberal, and have not made up their minds yet... what else do they need?..for crying out loud!


1,103 posted on 10/11/2012 8:51:18 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: patriciamary

I want to see adults in charge and Obama and Biden are not it. Those childish smirks and laughing over Libya and our economic situation are not the response of a sane adult. I actually came away from the debate thinking that Biden may have some mental issues that should be addressed.

If this debate moved the needle at all then Romney/Ryan just gained more of the women and independent voters.


1,104 posted on 10/11/2012 8:51:49 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: voteNRA

Talking about the past also made Joe seem old. He’s had his shot.

I was worried early. Then realized on style Joe was going Al Gore condescending.


1,105 posted on 10/11/2012 8:52:02 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: CedarDave
Yeah I saw that last week .. thanks, Dave   :-\
1,106 posted on 10/11/2012 8:53:18 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: mylife

True. He was out there only with no moderator.

Bottom line... Ryan had the facts and Biden didn’t want the viewers to hear Ryan. Like road rage - kept cutting him off.


1,107 posted on 10/11/2012 8:56:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Salamander
It's easy for Biden it's money.He said today to watch out if Romney is elected because Bork is on a panel.He is saying watch out because Roe V Wade will be overturned.He should be excommunicated.
1,108 posted on 10/11/2012 8:56:15 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Darnright

Kraut’s summary:

“If you heard it on radio, Biden won. If you watched it on television, he lost.”

Funny, but that’s exactly what they said about the Nixon/Kennedy debates.


1,109 posted on 10/11/2012 8:56:25 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Darnright
Someone upthread said Biden accomplished his goal - to keep Ryan from getting his message out effectively.


I agree that was one of Biden's objectives. RNC chairman Priebus said, Biden interrupted Ryan 82 times. Now, throw in Raddatz's interruptions cutting into Ryan's statements, the interrupts likely approaches 100.

1,110 posted on 10/11/2012 8:56:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: presently no screen name
Biden says “we inherited a bad situation” over and over again.

It would be nice if someone would point out that Biden sat at the highest levels of government during the years leading up to that "bad situation". It's like a pilot saying he inherited a falling aircraft. Biden's either complicit in the crash of the American economy or he was completely unable to see it coming or do a damn thing to stop it.

1,111 posted on 10/11/2012 8:57:01 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Salamander
Joe Buttin.

Two peas in a pod - obama is an a**h*le and joe buttin is a sh*t turd.

1,112 posted on 10/11/2012 8:57:55 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Salamander

I looked in on them to get a glimpse.


1,113 posted on 10/11/2012 8:58:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TigerClaws
Condescending didn't work for algore either. Its one thing to poke a stick at your opponent but dems always seem to overdo it, like a young child that just doesn't know when to quit while they're ahead.

I think Ryan did fine but all that is going to be remembered is uncle joe acting like a jerk.

Just got a breaking news email from CNN: Registered voters polled = 48% Ryan vs. 44% Biden

sampling error is +/- 5% (no internal breakdown)

1,114 posted on 10/11/2012 9:00:15 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I really think this did a LOT of damage to Øbama’s campaign. Biden laughed like a madman tonight.


1,115 posted on 10/11/2012 9:00:17 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: mass55th
The first time, we all saw "the real Romney."

This time, we all saw "the real Biden"


1,116 posted on 10/11/2012 9:00:47 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

That’s our SARAH!


1,117 posted on 10/11/2012 9:02:17 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Salamander

I don’t understand it either, and never will.

I did appreciate how Paul Ryan used his personal experience of the first time he saw his little girl at 7 weeks gestation.

I may be overly optimistic here, but I believe if women had the chance to see the tiny beating heart of their precious infant, they would not be able to go through with killing their baby.


1,118 posted on 10/11/2012 9:02:55 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia ("Together we will unite America and get this done" - Paul Ryan - August 11, 2012)
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To: combat_boots

“Did y’all notice that Biden did not curse even once! He knows how not to.”

They have pills for Tourettes, you know.


1,119 posted on 10/11/2012 9:04:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: All

I learned something about Ryan tonight...he’s a saint! I would have been crawling over the table to throttle Biden or at least pitching my water in his face.

I had an overwhelming desire to do harm to my TV, I handed the remote over to my husband.


1,120 posted on 10/11/2012 9:04:53 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: voteNRA

Agreed.


1,121 posted on 10/11/2012 9:05:36 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: Red Steel

>RNC chairman Priebus said, Biden interrupted Ryan 82 times. Now, throw in Raddatz’s interruptions cutting into Ryan’s statements, the interrupts likely approaches 100.<

Absolutely. And, the statement that Biden had 42 minutes vs Ryan’s 40 minutes of talk time can’t be taking the time Biden was talking over Ryan into account.


1,122 posted on 10/11/2012 9:05:41 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: tomkat

“I’ve been hearing the same carrot/stick routine for years now re ‘new servers / bigger pipe / etc etc’ and performance has only gotten slower over time. there’s NO WAY IN HELL this site will cope with a Presidential election in 26 DAYS ! I love FR, but these ridiculous lag times just ain’t kosher . . .”

After a post at the beginning, I gave up. I played a game while I watched the debate since this is so frustrating. It will be worse on election day, so there’s no point in coming to a live thread.


1,123 posted on 10/11/2012 9:06:43 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: presently no screen name

I agree with Krauthammer’s take because I listened rather than watched.

Wifey dear and I sat out by the firepit with the horses and listened on remote speakers from FOX and it sounded bad for Ryan....I kept screaming at Ryan a dozen times to fight back with specific replies that I as a usual freeper was prepped with knowledge wise....Ryan seemed like he was being schooled by tough Joe.

But Krauthammer said on TV Biden looked bad and that women hate boorish men...they do..no doubt...they can be bitchy but men had ought not be boorish...

anyhow...Chuck then said on substance that it was a draw.

Ryan better get tough and show more emotion before 2020

good man..great heart but needs a bit of fire and swagger

ironic considering how buff he is physically

are Cheeseheads deferential by nature...as a southerner I know any alpha male down here would fought back Jersey style on Biden’s arrogance

like when GWB stuck his chest out when Gore got too close...

boys...God love em..lol..roosters gots ta strut


1,124 posted on 10/11/2012 9:06:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Fresh Wind

>“If you heard it on radio, Biden won. If you watched it on television, he lost.”

Funny, but that’s exactly what they said about the Nixon/Kennedy debates.<

I was a kid when those debates occurred. Nixon just wasn’t as photogenic as Kennedy? Or did Nixon grimace or make other visual gaffes?


1,125 posted on 10/11/2012 9:07:46 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright

[heavy bass guitar intro]

Blood in the water!

/sorry

:)


1,126 posted on 10/11/2012 9:07:50 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: voteNRA

Just got a breaking news email from CNN: Registered voters polled = 48% Ryan vs. 44% Biden

sampling error is +/- 5% (no internal breakdown)

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Probably worse for Biden with LV.


1,127 posted on 10/11/2012 9:08:30 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: roadcat

Both of those serve a useful function.

O’Biden does not.

:)


1,128 posted on 10/11/2012 9:09:20 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: austingirl
I feel like I watched a "B" movie rerun tonight.




1,129 posted on 10/11/2012 9:09:30 PM PDT by salmon76
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To: Irenic

Joe laughed away 4 dead Americans in Libya.
Obama has laughed away 2000 in Afghanistan.

They can kiss my arse.


1,130 posted on 10/11/2012 9:09:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: CedarDave
No new equipment yet. Hopefully soon. Thanks!

Hopefully, or it won't really matter.

1,131 posted on 10/11/2012 9:09:50 PM PDT by Kenny (<p)
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To: 1035rep

“I actually came away from the debate thinking that Biden may have some mental issues that should be addressed.”

Ya think?!?

LOL


1,132 posted on 10/11/2012 9:10:16 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: salmon76

HAHA!


1,133 posted on 10/11/2012 9:11:32 PM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: mylife

You’re forgiven.

Say 3 “Hail, Salamanders” and sin no more.

;]


1,134 posted on 10/11/2012 9:11:36 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Irenic

Joe laughed away 4 dead Americans in Libya.
Obama has laughed away 2000 in Afghanistan.

They can kiss my arse.
And they turned a blind eye to 50,000 in Iran and Syria.


1,135 posted on 10/11/2012 9:11:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All

Given the fact that Joe didn’t insult any racial groups or call the president a name, the dems are happy..

Martha was a joke too but that point is moot.


1,136 posted on 10/11/2012 9:12:13 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: mylife

You’re forgiven.

Say 3 “Hail, Salamanders” and CNN no more.

;]


1,137 posted on 10/11/2012 9:12:16 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: wardaddy
like when GWB stuck his chest out when Gore got too close...

That was a memorable moment. It wasn't that he stuck his chest out, it was more like he looked up, as Turkey Gore was trying to alpha male into his personal space, and laughed in a relaxed way, as in "What are you doing, fool?".

1,138 posted on 10/11/2012 9:12:17 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: snarkytart
"Probably worse for Biden with LV."

Great point, I was just typing while I read so I went back and re-read the email - Yep, registered, not likely.

That is a poll trick that I have to get better at noticing

1,139 posted on 10/11/2012 9:12:20 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: mrs9x

“Biden’s stupid mannerisms are going to be all that is remembered from this debate”

Yep, this will be remembered as the debate where Joe Biden acted like a jerk. That is what is going to stick in people’s mind.


1,140 posted on 10/11/2012 9:12:21 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Fresh Wind

and that is exactly true Wind...wifey and I saw out back with the horses and listened on speaker and it sounded bad for Ryan

I was furious...hollering at the speakers

the horses were like “what’s up with the old dude who feeds us the good stuff...hope he doesn’t keel over and we have to just eat grass”


1,141 posted on 10/11/2012 9:14:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Salamander
Liked that, did ya?

Seen on Twitter (I admit, I've been double dipping tonight: FR and TwittR):

"THAT took six days of intense and sequestered preparation?"

1,142 posted on 10/11/2012 9:14:56 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright

I made a point of listening only. Originally, I thought Biden had the advantage but his laughing/mocking/interruptions became insufferable. It was as if he thought he’d win by speaking faster and louder than Ryan.

Eventually, Ryan’s smooth, calm sound took the lead. By the end, especially after the “Catholic/abortion” question, Biden sounded like a dithering fool, like his boss, with ahh’s and ummm’s several times per sentence. Also, Biden’s close was rather pathetic, while Ryan’s was strong.

So this radio listener ends up giving the edge to Ryan.


1,143 posted on 10/11/2012 9:14:59 PM PDT by EDINVA (I)
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To: Parley Baer

I could have sworn Biden flipped Ryan off near the end of the debate. I wish I could exactly what the question was. It was way before the abortion question.


1,144 posted on 10/11/2012 9:16:02 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Parley Baer
Yep, this will be remembered as the debate where Joe Biden acted like a jerk tin horn petty dictator/typical liberal punk.

There...fixed that for ya.

:)

1,145 posted on 10/11/2012 9:18:11 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

In fact, we may have to make some adjustments to the old phrase “Crazy aunt at the family picnic”


1,146 posted on 10/11/2012 9:20:07 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Mozilla

Pack Up Your Troubles in Your Old Kit Bag & Smile, Smile, Smile....


1,147 posted on 10/11/2012 9:20:12 PM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: mass55th

It was,not good.Love reading reply’s like the rest of us.


1,148 posted on 10/11/2012 9:21:01 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Mozilla

Biden reminded me of an unruly child when their parent is speaking with his interrupting and creating a fuss or a disruptive student while the teacher is trying to teach. No wonder he’s a lib - he’s unteachable.


1,149 posted on 10/11/2012 9:21:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jane Long
== I cannot stand Joe's fake smile, fake hair and fake anger. ==

Plugs wasn't smiling with Ryan pointed out his hometown UE went from 8.5 to 10%.

1,150 posted on 10/11/2012 9:21:24 PM PDT by QT3.14 (B O: The first Halfrican-American Prez)
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