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Live Thread: Vice Presidential Debate 9:00 P.M. EDT 10/11/12 Joe Biden vs. Paul Ryan
Commission on Presidential Debates ^ | Thursday, October 11, 2012

Posted on 10/11/2012 5:10:45 PM PDT by kristinn

All debates will take place from 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time.

Vice presidential debate:
Thursday, October 11
Centre College, Danville, KY
Moderator: Martha Raddatz, Senior Foreign Affairs Correspondent, ABC News

Online links:

C-SPAN

YouTube w/ ABC News/Yahoo! coverage


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; 2012vpdebate; angryjoe; biden; emo; live; oct11; paulryan; popcorn; standupchuck; thread; vpdebate
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To: upsdriver
How do you have an intelligent debate with someone like Biden?

Biden is an expert in mouthing word salad.

751 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: VideoDoctor

What, pray tell, is a “practicing Catholic”? What? Does Biden think he’s like a physician now? And if Biden is just practicing at being Catholic....when, if ever, is Biden going to get it right?


752 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:41 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: VideoDoctor

Biden is burying himself..Losing women voters in droves with his creepy old man laugh during every Ryan answer.


753 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:47 PM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: patriciamary

Ryan sucks, based on what? He’s hardly been able to finish a single (no exaggeration) sentence without either Biden, the moderator — or both!!! — interrupting him.

I suspect many interesting facts will emerge comparing this debate with other debates. The number of interruptions being first and foremost. I will be very interested in seeing how much each candidate ended up having in time. I estimate between five and eight minutes total so far where Biden was speaking *during* Ryan’s time.


754 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:49 PM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I think Ryan is doing quite well. He's not as polished as Biden, but he's earnest, and comes across as earnest and knowledgeable. It may not be a knockout for our side, but it won't be one for the other, either.
I hope you're right.
755 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:49 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: RummyChick

Unfortunately I have to agree. Would have loved to see Ryan be a bit more aggressive.


756 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:53 PM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: patriciamary
Ryan sucks

Snort! Biden was wonderful./full sarc

757 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:59 PM PDT by mplsconservative (A non-vote is a vote FOR 0bama.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Ryan’s politeness translates into confidence. He’s given Biden enough rope to hang himself and looks far the better man.


758 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:00 PM PDT by Hero
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To: wardaddy

IMO, Ryan has the facts but is not a debater;
Biden doesn’t have the facts but is a debater.


759 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: KeyLargo

I don’t get it..The GOP ALWAYS lets itself get screwed. The ENTIRE future of America hinges on this election and they allow the LEFT to control all the debates. Let Rush moderate one ..The right are so friggin stupid


760 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:17 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: AU72

How did this become an abortion debate?!!!


761 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: samtheman

Almost over. Ryan got his ass kicked. Yes, it was two against one, and Biden lied, but Biden dominated from start to finish. Disgusting.


762 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:17 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: mylife

He should not receive Communion.He is a disgrace.


763 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:23 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ncalburt

Thank you.


764 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:24 PM PDT by matt04
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To: printhead

P.R. has mentioned boots on the ground, we need to make the distinction of accepted boots on the ground as to promotion of arab spring boots on the ground.


765 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:27 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

Now they are trying to get Ryan on abortion.


766 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:31 PM PDT by Yaelle
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767 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:33 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Miss Didi
Uncle Joe is a coming off as a lunatic...I think most people are screaming at their TVs.

That's me. Wow, I lost it at one point. Blood pressure back to normal now ...well almost.

768 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:34 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.)
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To: RummyChick

I just don’t think the undecideds are going to like Biden’s schtick here.

Ryan’s talking like an adult, and I disagree with others that Biden’s body language won’t hurt him.

Biden’s supposed to be the incumbent and he’s attacking like Ryan’s been in office instead. Belligerence taken too far turns people off.

For the first time ever, I’m actually interested in what Luntz’s lackeys have to say. I’m curious whether my instincts are right on this one.


769 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:47 PM PDT by Kingosaurus
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To: chessplayer

BS!


770 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: presently no screen name
Ryan has the facts but is not a debater; Biden doesn’t have the facts but is a debater.
I agree.
771 posted on 10/11/2012 7:23:54 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: All

Last question is to scare women on abortion—pathetic.


772 posted on 10/11/2012 7:24:02 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: AU72

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/11/biden_contradicts_state_department_on_benghazi_security


773 posted on 10/11/2012 7:24:27 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Ryan is getting double teamed. This is outrageous.

Obama a guest at [Biden-Ryan] moderator’s ‘91 wedding

By David Bauder
Associated Press

New York — The day before the vice presidential debate, the guest list for moderator Martha Raddatz’s 1991 wedding has become an issue, of sorts.

The list included Harvard Law School student and future president Barack Obama. ...”

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121011/POLITICS01/210110395/1022/rss10

774 posted on 10/11/2012 7:24:27 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Red Steel

The moderator has been sitting on Biden’s lap during the entire debate, that is why there is a smile on his face.


775 posted on 10/11/2012 7:24:30 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Red Steel

Ryan is not doing well but I don’t know how anybody could do a good job with Biden in the room. He is INSANE


776 posted on 10/11/2012 7:24:34 PM PDT by 12chachacha
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To: patriciamary
I think your defeatist attitude sucks.

Ryan is up against the DNC attack machine. Man up. I wouldn't want to be with you in the foxhole.

777 posted on 10/11/2012 7:24:37 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: TortReformer

The folks out here are going to be so turned off by biden that Ryan wins this... no one who has any sense is going to side with the smirking rude biden... he’s a liar from one end to the other.. and smirking/laughing/interrupting is condescending and folks know this!! He spent 90 minutes putting Ryan down.. while Ryan was trying to talk about serious subjects. biden tried to drown him out. He made a huge mistake in doing all this.


778 posted on 10/11/2012 7:24:51 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Hero

Agreed.


779 posted on 10/11/2012 7:25:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FreedBird

Biden’s such a blowhard.


780 posted on 10/11/2012 7:25:20 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: red in brea

Can’t win a debate if people hate you. O’biden is coming across as someone no one can like.


781 posted on 10/11/2012 7:25:38 PM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: tatown

Ryan’s options were limited. He remained civil. Becoming combative would have backfired.


782 posted on 10/11/2012 7:25:59 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: RummyChick

What was Ryan supposed to do? Tell the moderator to shut up? The setup was bad in the first place—sitting down, the biased, idiot moderator, no rules...


783 posted on 10/11/2012 7:26:05 PM PDT by madison10
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To: kevao

Well, only caught from 9:50pm onward, but what I have seen Biden is just being idiotically agressive and the moderator is useless. Biden will fire up the pundits because of how bad Obama was but I don’t see any of this moving the needle unless Biden’s arrogance creates a backlash.


784 posted on 10/11/2012 7:26:13 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Steel

The moderator has been sitting on Biden’s lap during the entire debate, that is why there is a smile on his face.


785 posted on 10/11/2012 7:26:23 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: presently no screen name

Joe’s not a debater...he’s an interrupter!


786 posted on 10/11/2012 7:26:35 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: kristinn

Angry.

That’s the take away.

Libs are angry people.


787 posted on 10/11/2012 7:27:09 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Every conservative knew the attacks were coming... 3.5 years ago when Obama was elected.)
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To: madison10

Ryan should have called Biden on his repetition of the lie that Obama pulled the country back from the brink.


788 posted on 10/11/2012 7:27:24 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: CASchack

“Ryan’s options were limited. He remained civil. Becoming combative would have backfired.”

Right.

This is going to backfire on the Dems like the Wellstone Memorial.


789 posted on 10/11/2012 7:27:28 PM PDT by Kingosaurus
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To: presently no screen name
IMO, Ryan has the facts but is not a debater; Biden doesn’t have the facts but is a debater.

Well said.

790 posted on 10/11/2012 7:27:46 PM PDT by NJRighty (AB0)
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To: AU72

Refuse to impose what Biden thinks is moral on others ?

What about Sandusky, joe? Do you refuse to impose your morals on his “choice”?


791 posted on 10/11/2012 7:27:55 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: frnewsjunkie

I would agree in general but Radditz is giving Biden the final “gosh I really care moment”


792 posted on 10/11/2012 7:27:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: AU72

Refuse to impose what Biden thinks is moral on others ?

What about Sandusky, joe? Do you refuse to impose your morals on his “choice”?


793 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:00 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: surrey

wait....Jokin’ Joe just said the superpacs are obamanations!


794 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:00 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Red Steel

The moderator has been sitting on Biden’s lap during the entire debate, that is why there is a smile on his face.


795 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:03 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: kristinn

Joe looks like an angry Mama Luc....


796 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:22 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: NJRighty

Good answer at the end by Ryan.


797 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:28 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: kristinn

Joe looks like an angry Mama Luc....


798 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:43 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: Red Steel

The moderator has been sitting on Biden’s lap during the entire debate, that is why there is a smile on his face.


799 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:44 PM PDT by FreedBird
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800 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:46 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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