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EDITORIAL: Facing debate over Fast and Furious
The Washington Times ^ | 11 October, 2012 | NA

Posted on 10/12/2012 8:28:44 AM PDT by marktwain

Murder is hard to sweep under the rug. President Obama may have invoked executive privilege to shield his Fast and Furious scandal from congressional investigators, but repeating this strategy won’t go down well during a presidential debate. The administration’s reckless scheme, which armed foreign drug lords, deserves a thorough airing before voters cast their ballots on Election Day.

Fast and Furious weapons were used to gun down 14 Mexican teenagers at a birthday party in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, in January 2010, Spanish-language Univision reported Oct. 1. The day after the report, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Nicholas J. Ivie was shot to death while patrolling the Arizona desert just north of the Mexican border. While early evidence suggests the killing may have been the result of friendly fire rather than smuggled guns, the tragedy is a fresh reminder of the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian A. Terry, who was gunned down by a Fast and Furious weapon.

Taken together, the killings of innocent Mexican children and a pair of federal agents are the bitter fruit of leadership that has played fast and loose with border security. When the presidential candidates face off over foreign policy at Florida’s Lynn University on Oct. 22, Mr. Obama must be asked to explain how his Democratic underlings could have strayed so far from common sense in allowing the border to become a conduit for dealers of death. Republican challenger Mitt Romney should be prepared to present a plan that would end such national security failures.

In Operation Fast and Furious, more than 2,000 weapons were purchased in the United States and smuggled into Mexico, where they were sold to drug kingpins.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; fastandfurious; gunwalker; murdergate
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1 posted on 10/12/2012 8:28:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 8:29:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

And THIS scandal still persists. Enough evidence between Benghazi and Fast and Furious for impeachment and life imprisonment.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 8:37:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: marktwain

Romney should hit the King Obama with this on the next debate.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 8:38:02 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: marktwain

The socialist democratic lapdog frauds in the MSM are protecting THE FOREIGNER for political reasons. Not only should FAST & FURIOUS be discussed. BIRTH CERTIFICATE. SS#. Hiding school records. Eligibility Fraud. Doctored draft card. To name just some of the fraud of his regime.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 8:38:09 AM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: MestaMachine

Let’s hope. I want to see what zero looks like with a beard & behind bars.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 8:45:30 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: marktwain

The media knows how to make a big fuss over things. Unfortunately they only do it when a normal person is accused of something he didn’t do. When a democrat actually DOES something illegal, the media just ignore it.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 8:47:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Devil's alliance - media, libs, jihadis)
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To: marktwain

And Trent Lott fired himself for saying something like “If we had followed his advise, we’d be better off today.” Speaking of Strom Thurmond. WHEN are Republicans going to get the balls to fight???


8 posted on 10/12/2012 8:47:49 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: marktwain

“MURDER” seems to be this administrations ‘go to’ strategy.


9 posted on 10/12/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Logical me

If he brings it up, the moderator will cut him off with that is off topic comment so some such. Cannot fight city hall you know.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 9:10:58 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Safetgiver; All
And Trent Lott fired himself for saying something like “If we had followed his advise, we’d be better off today.” Speaking of Strom Thurmond. WHEN are Republicans going to get the balls to fight???

When the new media is able to give them enough cover from the MSM.

It is easy to fight when the MSM has your back. It is not so easy when you see Republican career after Republican career destroyed by the MSM. The MSM is the culprit, not lack of Republican backbone.

11 posted on 10/12/2012 9:33:24 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Fast and Furious weapons were used to gun down 14 Mexican teenagers at a birthday party in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, in January 2010, Spanish-language Univision reported Oct. 1. The day after the report, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Nicholas J. Ivie was shot to death while patrolling the Arizona desert just north of the Mexican border.

Odd how abortion's been legal for almost half a century and it's treated like Bills on on the table - ready to be passed - THIS SECOND, but Fast and Furious murders are of almost no interest to a liberal moderator... odd...

12 posted on 10/12/2012 9:55:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: Hardraade
I want to see what zero looks like with a beard & behind bars.

Didn't the nut Muslim Fort Hood shooter like his beard. It seems that Muslim nutjob avoided trial with his beard.

Since Obama is also a Muslim nutjob, he may try the same thing and you might get your wish. But then again, maybe Americans will never figure out Obama is a Muslim who has been playing President.

13 posted on 10/12/2012 9:57:47 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: marktwain

14 posted on 10/12/2012 10:01:24 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Hardraade
I want to see what zero looks like with a beard & behind bars.

Didn't the nut Muslim Fort Hood shooter like his beard? It seems that Muslim nutjob avoided trial with his beard.

Since Obama is also a Muslim nutjob, he may try the same thing and you might get your wish. But then again, maybe Americans will never figure out Obama is a Muslim who has been playing President.

15 posted on 10/12/2012 10:32:43 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: Logical me
Yes, and when he says “It started under the Bush administration” Romney should say, “Mr. President, I don't believe Bush had anything to do with Fast and Furious, and, I don't believe you do. If you did, you and Holder would be tripping over one another to release documents rather than hide them. This is why, Mr. President, we need you and your administration to cooperate in the investigation. So those, no matter the party, can be prosecuted for violating our laws as well as international gun running laws. Mr. Obama, people need to go to prison for the deaths on both sides of the border. Those guns will be out there killing people for years to come. Mr. Obama, due to the actions of people within the US government, the finger prints of the American People are on guns that killed innocent Mexican Citizens. While we can never make it up to the loved ones of those murdered with F&F guns, we should make a good faith effort to wash some of the blood from our hands by seeing to it that those involved, no matter the party or position, face justice.”
16 posted on 10/12/2012 10:47:47 AM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: MestaMachine; Travis McGee; Joe Brower
Enough evidence between Benghazi and Fast and Furious for impeachment and life imprisonment.

I wish. Don't dream to far. Holder should have been impeached. A trial to remove him in the Senate should have been our current news.

Be that as it may, as a minimum, Romney could make the case that Obama tolerates gross incompetence in his Departments of State and Justice and State leading to the deaths of at least six Americans and hundreds of Mexicans. Will he? Let us pray. The incompetence and cover up of the Benghazi fiasco could be a foot in the door for bringing up Fast and Furious.

17 posted on 10/12/2012 11:59:01 AM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem; MestaMachine; Travis McGee; Joe Brower
Holder should have been impeached

They can't impeach Holder.

If they did, then you might figure out what was really going on. Now they can play games and the little people wonder what in the world is going on.

Think back to history when an administration was pushed to the limit hiding a lie. The Attorney General told lie after lie to hide the truth. Other pawns were thrown up and sacrificed to protect the king. With relentless attacks, the shields finally fell down and the truth surfaced in Watergate. In this case, though, there are no reporters who will ever chase nor report the truth.

The Republicans cannot expose the truth, it is something they want to quietly go away. With the election coming up, Americans can remove the cancer and nobody has to know the details.

Who was behind FAST AND FURIOUS? Attorney Generals don't orders stuff like this. Obama wanted to show American guns were behind Mexico's violence. Obama's ammunition would have been statistics and he was going to use numbers to gut the American gun industry. And then he was going to gut the 2nd Amendment. Even though things went very wrong, Americans don't know what happened and the REPUBS think it's better that way. And they have nothing to worry about because you and most Americans don't have a remote clue what is really happening in Washington.

18 posted on 10/14/2012 8:12:24 PM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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