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Joe Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes. The Democrats have become the rude party
Telegraph - UK ^ | October 12, 2012 | Tim Stanley

Posted on 10/12/2012 12:38:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

No one’s denying that Joe Biden delivered the more energetic performance in Thursday’s vice presidential debate. He interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes. Yet some polls say that Ryan won and many pundits are calling it a draw. How come?

Two reasons. First, deconstruct the Biden bluster and some of what he said was nonsensical. In the first 10 minutes alone, Joe insisted that the US intelligence community was wrong on Libya but trustworthy on Iran. He claimed that the staff at the Benghazi embassy didn’t want extra security when lots of sources say that they begged for it. He seemed to rule out war with Iran under any circumstances, which would remove America’s one bargaining chip. As political klutzes go, Biden is to talking what Gerald Ford was to walking.

More importantly, Biden was rude. Perhaps he was trying to emulate Romney’s dominant performance from the week before. But where Romney was commanding, Biden was just insulting. The most damning moments came when the camera went split screen. On the right was Ryan trying to make a serious point about world peace. On the left was Biden laughing. The Vice President’s performance will doubtless rally the party faithful and give them a few applause lines to live off through to November. But it’s hard to imagine independents warming to these theatrics.

The Democrats have made the classic mistake of thinking that what they want to see is what everyone else wants to see. This isn’t peculiar to the Obama/Biden ticket but part of a long-term evolution. Back in 2000, Al Gore huffed and puffed his way angrily through a presidential debate and possibly cost his party the election. The Democrats ought to have learned from that, but .....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; democraticparty; dempolitics; politicalhack; vpdebate
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1 posted on 10/12/2012 12:38:11 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So much for ‘civility’.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 12:40:50 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Next Biden will prank call Ryan in the middle of the night.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 12:42:28 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: lacrew

Democrats have no sense of shame.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 12:43:15 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Interrupted 82 times by Biden in 90 minutes. And an additional 31 times by Raddatz.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 12:45:28 PM PDT by trublu
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They’ve been angry and rude for quite some time. I even see it in some “friends” of mine. Just anger and hateful spite, then they go home and live otherwise as conservatives. Why they can’t see the forest for the trees is beyond me, but several of them run their own small businesses and they just hate Republicans, especially conservative ones.

It’s so bad we don’t even talk politics. I don’t bring it up and neither do they. Friendship prevails but so many times I’d like to ask them “how’s that Hope n Change n Unity workin out for us”?

That would really PO them. Angry, bitter, hypocritical.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 12:45:58 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

First they were the party that booed God. Now they’re the rude party. Aren’t you proud, Dems?


7 posted on 10/12/2012 12:46:26 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Next Biden will prank call Ryan in the middle of the night.

Only because the flaming bag of dog turds is beyond his technical competence.

8 posted on 10/12/2012 12:46:26 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats have no sense of shame. Democrats have no sense of shame.There. Fixed it!


9 posted on 10/12/2012 12:46:35 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here is a great word that Dems and libs like at the moment- bully.

When someone constantly interrupts you, belittles you with gales of laughter, smirks, guffaws, windmills their arms to distract you, that person is deliberately trying to shut you up. He’s being a bully.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 12:47:32 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Vice President of the United States of America should be above making NEENER NEENER faces during a debate. Pathetic!


11 posted on 10/12/2012 12:48:20 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Biden is just vulger.

Joe poses with female biker

12 posted on 10/12/2012 12:49:22 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It is the Leftist thing. Leftists are at war with reality. This leads to an end justifies the means mindset.

Shame is something that people driven by moral values exhibit. It flows from humility--a realistic assessment of the supreme importance of things beyond the ken of mere man. Those who deny God's reality do not even comprehend the concept.

I have observed the Biden method of debate, many many times through the years. To give the devil his due, Biden was "better" at it than most. That is not really a great compliment. It was very, very bad behavior.

William Flax

13 posted on 10/12/2012 12:49:37 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: lacrew

Rush did a great job today explaining the insufferable Plugs that some Americans saw for the first time, is what we conservatives have known for decades. He is a corrupt and foul first order demagogue and perfectly reflects the values of his party.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 12:52:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

15 posted on 10/12/2012 12:52:34 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: DBrow

“When someone constantly interrupts you, belittles you with gales of laughter, smirks, guffaws, windmills their arms to distract you, that person is deliberately trying to shut you up. He’s being a bully.”

That also describes a good many ex-wives. ;>)


16 posted on 10/12/2012 12:53:07 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Democrats have become the rude party

They've been that way for a long time. Take a look at their constituency and it clear why.

17 posted on 10/12/2012 12:53:56 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: DBrow

Joe Biden: Plagiarizer-In-Chief "....Exhibiting a partisan shamelessness unlike anything I had ever seen, Senator Biden launched pointed question after pointed question at Clarence Thomas. He hurled insults, unfounded accusations, and sarcasm-laden diatribes at Justice Thomas, who endured the shameful spectacle with the dignity and grace we have come to expect from him. Biden literally spent three days leading the despicable charge to discredit a brilliant, decent, fair-minded black man—simply because he didn’t like his politics. (In truth, the motivation behind these disgusting attacks was the left’s attempt to destroy someone who they saw as a potential threat to Roe v. Wade).."

18 posted on 10/12/2012 12:55:06 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perhaps he was trying to emulate Romney’s dominant performance from the week before. But where Romney was commanding, Biden was just insulting. The most damning moments came when the camera went split screen. On the right was Ryan trying to make a serious point about world peace. On the left was Biden laughing.

Lucky for us the ABC camera man and production staff were just as big a jerks as the rest of the biased, corrupt liberal assh*les. If we hadn't seen Biden on the split screen we wouldn't understand what a jerk Biden was... guess the suck ups at ABC overplayed their hands. Maybe NBC can doctor the tapes for them - to make it 'better'... and the 'oh so talented' writers at the New York Times can re-write Biden's lies so they sound .... well, more convincing. These lowlifes have to work together... to keep the scam going.

19 posted on 10/12/2012 12:57:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: trublu

Interrupted 82 times by Biden in 90 minutes. And an additional 31 times by Raddatz.
+++++++++++++
Since Ryan only got 40 minutes, this works out to an interruption every 21 seconds.


20 posted on 10/12/2012 12:58:41 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Ohioan
It is the Leftist thing. Leftists are at war with reality. This leads to an end justifies the means mindset. Shame is something that people driven by moral values exhibit. It flows from humility--a realistic assessment of the supreme importance of things beyond the ken of mere man. Those who deny God's reality do not even comprehend the concept.

True.

"..................Conservatives who think progressives are misinformed idealists will forever be blind-sided by the malice of the left—by the cynicism of those who pride themselves on principle, by the viciousness of those who champion sensitivity, by the intolerance of those who call themselves liberal, and by the ruthless disregard for the well-being of the downtrodden by those who preen themselves as social saints....." Source

21 posted on 10/12/2012 1:00:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GOPJ

I thought about that and whether someone’s head would roll for the debates split-screen decision. Perhaps they were hoping for that one good “gotcha” shot of Romney or of Ryan (all others would hit the round file) that they could run over and over again.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 1:03:00 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Biden is a creep.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 1:03:06 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obamar)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This should be no surprise to freedom loving people. The RATS are socialist/marxist/ communist in their beliefs. Typical is to shout down their opponents by demeaning them and preventing the truth. This is right out of the Alinsky playbook.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 1:05:31 PM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: KansasGirl

That way he has of jabbing the air toward you while he’s talking is unnerving (and he holds a sharp object in his hand too).


25 posted on 10/12/2012 1:05:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: The Toll

Biden is a crapweasel and shouldn’t be next in line for the presidency.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 1:05:54 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Democrats have become the rude party.

No! Really? I thought this was just a civil debate about differences in patriotic visions???


27 posted on 10/12/2012 1:07:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Gator113

Some of us ex-wives here had flash-backs to former abusive husbands watching Biden’s intimidating and bullying treatment of Ryan.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 1:08:49 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think Neal Cavuto and Bill O’Reilly are Democrats....they are RUDE INTERRUPTORS just when someone on the right is getting to their main point. I can’t stand them.


29 posted on 10/12/2012 1:12:32 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Listened to the first half driving home.

Speakers in my car are not the best, so I didn't hear the interruptions and thought BiteMe was doing OK - except I was screaming "Liar" several times.

Got home and watched the second half....could not believe the rudeness.

Ryan could have nailed him quite a few times, but chose caution instead. He did a good job for his first big-time debate.

Charles Krauthammer nailed it this morning on FOX....

"If you read the transcript - it was a tie.
If you listened to it - Biden won.
If you watched it - Ryan won.

30 posted on 10/12/2012 1:13:56 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

MayflowerMadam, I am sure some did. I was kinda cracking a guy joke.

I am at over 40 years... I think she’s going to keep me. ;>)


31 posted on 10/12/2012 1:16:30 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Actually, since Ryan only had 40 minutes, it’s 82 times in 40 minutes. And if you throw out the opening and closing statements, it’s about 82 times in 32 minutes, or once every 23 seconds. Add in Martha’s butt-ins, and we’re down to about once every 17 seconds.


32 posted on 10/12/2012 1:20:21 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey, at least Martha kept sneering grins under control, right?


33 posted on 10/12/2012 1:21:49 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: Nea Wood

Nothing any liberal candidate does upsets them.

Biden destroyed an innocent American’s life and smiled all the way!
Joe Biden - Bearing false witness, as usual!
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Biden


34 posted on 10/12/2012 1:32:02 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Do you have Prince Albert in a can? Then let him out.
When I was a kid I thought that was A hilarious phone prank.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 1:44:44 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: lacrew
Rudeness aside, did Ryan or Biden win?

Did Ryan help the ticket win in November?

That is the only important outcome.

36 posted on 10/12/2012 1:46:28 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Becoming rude? How many times has Obama given the finger to his debate opponent?
37 posted on 10/12/2012 1:48:35 PM PDT by Mr. Dough (Who was the greater military man, General Tso or Col. Sanders?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats, and it extends far beyond VP Biden, demonstrate a fevered class division consciousness while being totally classless. To me, it demonstrates a view I am convinced that Democrat officialdom are imbued with; that Democrats are, by innate right, entitled to government office unless denied by unfair elections (2000 and 2004), candidate lies or other obstructions. The lack of class, as demonstrated by Biden, comes from the arrogance of a natural office holder!


38 posted on 10/12/2012 1:51:30 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Only 82 times?? I thought it was more...I think I saw better debates from a 5 year old then Biden last night.


39 posted on 10/12/2012 2:01:11 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rules for Radicals is now the Official Dem Party playbook.


40 posted on 10/12/2012 2:10:58 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Seems the ABC production crew is so biased and hateful that they actually thought they were helping Biden by showcasing his contempt and rudeness.

Biden's contempt for Ryan and everyday Americans is the same contempt they feel... Maybe ABC pays them enough so waiters in fancy restaurants kiss their butts ... throw away cash might shield them from what jerks they've become...

41 posted on 10/12/2012 2:35:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Seems the ABC production crew is so biased and hateful that they actually thought they were helping Biden by showcasing his contempt and rudeness.

Biden's contempt for Ryan and everyday Americans is the same contempt they feel... Maybe ABC pays them enough so waiters in fancy restaurants kiss their butts ... throw-away cash might shield them from the reality of what jerks they've become...

42 posted on 10/12/2012 2:36:26 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Yep... and some of us looked at Ryan and thought, “...if my daughter brought someone like that home, and they seemed to be in love, I would SO get down on my knees and count my blessings...”


43 posted on 10/12/2012 2:48:32 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Democrats have made the classic mistake of thinking that what they want to see is what everyone else wants to see.

Beautifully stated. It's the same attribute that has most socialists thinking of themselves as moderates. It's the echo chamber of public education, from kindergarten to adult advertising that has them believing it some kind of norm.

44 posted on 10/12/2012 2:56:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How many times did the moderator interrupt Ryan. It must have been a really large number too. So the next question is how many times was Ryan interrupted in total. It goes well over 100.


45 posted on 10/12/2012 2:56:49 PM PDT by Revel
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To: wmileo

“Rudeness aside, did Ryan or Biden win?”

It depends on perspective, of course. Biden’s performance clearly indicated that camp O is still shoring up its base...they certainly didn’t go for the independent voter with this performance. I think that’s a bad spot to be in this late in the race.

Ryan looked nervous at first, and ‘left alot on the table’ by not countering some of Biden’s less than truthful statements. But he did look like a guy who was serious, and could take over for a president, if necessary. It was his introduction to most Americans, and I think he did well in that.

I also think Biden may have lost the debate in slow motion. He left some really big sinkholes out there, for Obama to contend with. He fantastically blamed the Benghazi massacre on his own administration’s intelligence agencies and State Department...that will be talked about constantly until the next presidential debate. And, some of his lies were so over the top (standard fare for Biden), the media cannot ignore. He stated “I voted against it” after complaining about the Iraq war, Afghan war, and Medicaid Part D....and its not too hard for the media to figure out that he did vote for the wars....and they have already reported on it today.

But back to the original question...its hard to put rudeness aside...because I literally could not hear Ryan some of the time. It is very difficult to evaluate content, when you can’t hear what one guy is saying.

The polls will tell the tale....but what happens if Barry doesn’t live up to Joe’s performance? The public will see Barry, once again, letting somebody else do all the hard work....its always been about the top of the ticket, and they have big problems with that.


46 posted on 10/12/2012 3:03:37 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Revel

The count I heard was 82 times by Biden, 32 times by moderator...Ryan spoke for 40 minutes...and its about one interruption every 24 seconds of speaking.


47 posted on 10/12/2012 3:05:31 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Mr. Dough

Did obama give his finger in the last debate, anyone catch it?


48 posted on 10/12/2012 3:08:59 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: DBrow

“He’s being a bully.”

Correction: He’s being a total scu&bag.

IMHO


49 posted on 10/12/2012 6:20:22 PM PDT by ripley
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To: ripley

a total scuzzbag bully


50 posted on 10/12/2012 6:20:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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