Skip to comments.Debate moderator Candy Crowley's secret of success? Transcendental meditation
Posted on 10/16/2012 11:01:24 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Candy Crowley, moderator of the second presidential debate may have a trick up her sleeve if things get tense between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney - she practices transcendental meditation twice a day.
The CNN anchor, who will be in charge of the 'town hall' style debate at Hofstra university on Long Island, New York, took up meditation after the 2008 election and managed to achieve what one website called a 'natural state of restful alertness'. She also credits the practice with her weight loss.
And in a campaign in which red meat rhetoric designed to attract party 'base' voters is ever present, she is a committed vegetarian.
In May, Crowley gave the commencement address for students at the Maharishi University of Management. The university was set up in 1974 by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who created transcendental meditation, in Fairfield, Iowa.
Its mission is to 'provide a consciousness-based education holistic, relevant education for a successful life not just a career to ensure our happiness and to make real contributions in the world' and 'meditation and spiritual growth, self-exploration, higher consciousness, spirituality, and inner peace through the transcendental meditation technique'.
The meditation involves the repeated repetition of a sound, called a mantra, and is practiced for 1520 minutes twice per day, while sitting with closed eyes.
Crowley told the gathered students: 'To get to where you want to go, you first have to stand and be who you are,' she said.
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“Quote me one passage in the Bible where it says meditation is Satanic.”
Not exactly Satanic, but the current meditation fad isn’t scriptural. I believe that any time “meditate” or “meditation” is referred to in the Bible, it refers to meditating specifically about God/Christ or specific spiritual things. Current medication is generally self-centered — all about “me” (or donuts in the case of Ms. Crowley).
Your interpretation of what you think the Bible says in order to conform to your own personal prejudices is not the same thing as what the Bible actually says.
Lastly, nobody is worshipping anything when they meditate.
How is saying a word that has no meaning the same as worshipping Satan?
You have no biblical defense of this whatsoever.
You really are stretching the realm of plausibility here to suit your own personal prejudices.
And, like I said, you have zero evidence to demonstrate the people who meditate are evil, devil worshippers.
Jai, Guru Dev!
Like wow, man. Jane Asher and Patti Boyd in 1967. Some kind of yummy!
Years ago I practiced TM. I don't recall it hurting me, at least I didn't think so.
TM, as well as other meditations and Christian prayer can be very soothing.
In the past two years, I have had 2 hip replacements and two bouts of bacterial infection, or whatever they called it. I've had four dental inplants and daily deal with Multiple Sclerosis.
Yeah, kind of a mess but meditation (TM) or not and, and even better still my prayer and intervention prayer from people too numerous to count.
With TM, you go into the deep recesses of brain waves. And, some of those recesses relieve pain.
I'll take prayer, intervention prayer, and meditation any day of the week. I haven't seen it as diabolical or the devil's joy.
I know God knows why I do it. I hope it does not count against me.
The devils I’ve known have been churchgoers condemning to hell meditation (which is incidentally what Catholic monks engage in, whether they call it Transcedental or not.)
Humming for 15 minutes,sitting with eyes closed, twice a day-—————silly me. That’s the standard bathroom terlet drill for lots of guys. How was I to know those guys were losing their mojo?
What a pig!
What did she look like before!
Never mind... I don't want to know.
The scripture link you posted does not state what you claim. Try again.
Well, that settles it, one look at her tells you it works./sarc
PS...I've raised hogs and they wont get that fat eating just veggies out of the salad bar.
I agree with radopolis...meditation in and of itself isn’t evil, in my opinion.
I do tai-chi to cope with stress and improve my balance...it doesn’t mean I worship the Chinese or Satan or anything else.
I admit to not knowing much about TM, so if it means you have to repeat to yourself over and over again your fealty to Satan, I might change my mind.
But heck...if it is just repeating something to yourself, I guess I am guilty...when I go on long hikes, I often get a piece of music stuck in a repeating cycle in my head. Granted, if it were rap, I would say that was a crime against nature...:)
"I dont care who ya are ... thats funny!"
More like a surgeon with a shop-vac.
Show me a person who lets his mind go blank for 20 minutes twice a day and I’ll show you a guy who isn’t going to get near my shop, machinery, heavy equipment, or even sharp tools. Maybe we’d give him a rubber hammer and let him thump himself to sleep.
And, during the instruction, there was no mention of any kind of worship. Fortunately or unfortunately, I got out of the habit of it, although it's not hard to do.
There was a book released around that time by a Harvard professor named (I think) Herbert Benson that was called The Relaxation Response which, in effect, provided scientific support for the benefits of that particular method of meditation. As I recall, he described how to do it, trying to de-mystify it and make it available without enriching "The Maharishi" who really was a bit of a charlatan.
where I come from we just call it a nap.
On the other hand, there are studies for how meditating, and prayer, affect the brain in positive ways.
I'm in on meditation and prayer. I have heard of saints in meditation to deepen their prayer.
Of course, I can't name them (maybe St. Terese; maybe Julian of Norwich), but I guess this would be as good a time to read "Lives of the Saints".
HA, HA...at least the color is close!
Better for me not to meditate on that!
God bless and heal him.
A person as large as she is does not speak well of self-control and self-esteem. Chubby-chaser alert!!!! I bet she has a large tub of M&Ms next to her tonight. From the pics of her she still has to go to a freight company bay to get weighed. I bet her TM mantra is “mmmm...mmmmn...good”.
Yes! She needs to checker her cap, black and yellow!
TM hasn’t helped her lose any weight.
Pray. Pray very hard.
I would urge anyone, in the strongest of possible terms, to avoid Transcendental Meditation (TM) like the plague.
I am completely serious.
It is a very dangerous practice, and not at all Biblical. I can post some guidance here, but you have Google at your fingertips. I suggest you do some searches of "Bible" and "Transcendental Meditation" or a combination of related terms.
If you are an honest searcher, what you find will be very instructional.
Quite simply, TM is a pagan, Hindu based mechanism that is completely out of phase with the fundamental foundation of Jesus Christ being the way, the truth, and the life. It is very dangerous. Anyone that dabbles in it is playing with the occult. The occult is a tool used by demons and Satan to ensnare the unsuspecting into a literal living hell.
As mentioned by a previous poster, TM is a completely different animal than "meditating" on scripture and holy things, as mentioned in the Psalms or Romans. Placing yourself into a trance-like state in an attempt to achieve something is definitely not the way the Bible reveals a Christian should behave. The Bible warns strongly against it. TM teaches that salvation is found within. It teaches inner divinity. It is completely un-Biblical.
Here is but one site that speaks towards this:
No amount of chanting, breathing, visualizing, or physical contortions will melt away the sin that separates us from the Lord of the cosmoshowever "peaceful" these practices may feel. Moreover, Paul warns that "Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light" (2 Cor. 11:14). "Pleasant" experiences may be portals to peril. Even yoga teachers warn that yoga may open one up to spiritual and physical maladies. The answer to our plight is not found in some "higher level of consciousness" (really a deceptive state of mind), but in placing our faith in the unmatched achievements of Jesus Christ on our behalf. If it were possible to find enlightenment within, God would not have sent "his one and only Son" (John 3:16) to die on the Cross for our sins in order to give us new life and hope for eternity through Christ's resurrection. We cannot raise ourselves from the dead. The biblical concept of prayer assumes that rational and meaningful communication between God and humans is possible. There is no summons to suspend rational judgment even when prayer through the Holy Spirit is "with groans that words cannot express" (Rom. 8:26). Nor should we repeat words meaninglessly to induce a trance (Matt. 6:7).
Last year, I read a book entitled "Hostage to the Devil" by Malachi Martin.
There were (I believe) five cases of possession and exorcism. Not all occult practices lead to complete possession (the worst affliction), however, all occult practices lead to destruction of our relationship with God.
In one of the cases, a university professor named "Carl" practiced a technique very, very similar to TM. He was deceived by a very powerful demon, and become completely possessed. It is a horrifying account if you read the entire case.
So, how does this relate to the debate tonight, and why is it relevant?
From my vantage point, as a Christian, we clearly have a woman (Crowley) who was raised in a nation where she had the freedom to worship God or to completely reject God. She chose the later.
Do not think that Satan is not real, and that he does not have an incredible interest in this election. We are on the battle front of good vs. evil - the future of our nation, or it's destruction. The fate of our relationship with Israel is at stake.
I do not think it is an accident that Crowley is moderating, and I do not think for a second that she will not attempt to influence this debate in a way that will attempt to protect the evil that is Barack Hussein Obama.
With all due respect, I don’t believe in any of that hocus pocus.
If there is any evil influence governing the lives of Barack Obama and Candy Crowley, it is their Lord and Master, Karl Marx, a real man(though long dead), not the devil or demons taking hold of their minds through meditation.
>>Lets go easy on Candy. Shes closer to a real journalist than most over there, and also, CNN seems to be seriously eyeing the demographic (right-of-center folks) that Fox seems to be abandoning.<<
I’ve been wondering if Crowley would make a different play here. While I give this only about a 1% chance of happening, if that, she could make herself instantly famous if she chose hard-hitting audience questions for Obama and then went after him with her follow-ups to ensure that he really answered them, or to make it very clear that he wasn’t about to answer them.
Obama’s re-election is in trouble, obviously. The way it stands now he’s in danger of going into a downward spiral where virtually everyone gives up on him except his hardcore base. Tough questioning by Crowley could put an end to his chances of recovering, but doing so would lend instant credibility to CNN and to her as well. lf Obama plunged in the polls immediately following the debate, her questioning would get the credit (or blame).
In other words, she has a chance to be the first American reporter (Univision already tried) to really put our President on the spot and get him to address the many issues he’s managed to duck the past 3 and a half years. If she does this successfully, and his poll numbers plunge, and he eventually loses, she’ll be viewed by many as the equivalent of Woodward and Bernstein when they took down Nixon. Granted, the Left will despise her, but as you said CNN appears to be making a recent play for the mainstream and a move like this by Crowley would make that quite obvious.
Just wondering if any of this has occurred to Crowley or to the powers that be at CNN.
The Bible is clear that any worship that is not towards the true God is towards devils
So your thesis that TM is Satanic rests upon the notion that meditation is the same as worship. Have you made that argument yet? I must have missed it.
May I ask you, why did you ask for clarification of what the Bible or Christian doctrine has to say on this matter, but then utterly reject the evidence with hand waving once it was given?
You and I may be on the same side politically, but from a spiritual perspective you and I differ on the trivial notions such as heaven, hell, death, redemption, sin, and salvation.
In that respect, you and Crowley are on the same side.
There is a battle going on. It is real.
"Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devils schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
Is she going to have a T.M. before she goes on the air tonight?
You didn’t give me any clarifications whatsoever.
One of the things that drives me nuts about most Christians today is this notion of reading the Bible and interpreting it to support their own prejudices.
I can get 20 Christians in the same room and everybody is going to interpret the Bible the way want to.
And I don’t know what your quote has to do with meditation.
However, I guarantee you this:
If you sat for 20 minutes in the morning and evening and said the word Jesus to yourself in the mind, you are not going to be possessed by the devil and do evil things.
They misspelled "Ho-Hos".
You are lost in dreamland and should seek help from a strong Christian pastor with experience in demons.
Any relation to Aleister Crowley?
You make light of something that destroys lives.
That is quintessential circular firing squad argument that is constantly thrown about, but doesn't stand firm on its own weak foundation.
God gave us His Word in clear, easy to understand, and thoughtful language. It says what it means, and it means what it says.
When He says homosexuality is wrong, a child could understand it.
People who will not accept His Word twist themselves into knots trying to say it doesn't mean what it says it says.
You arbitrarily accuse Christians of "interpreting it to support their own prejudices" and then offer zero Biblical evidence to prove this as fact. Moreover, you throw out the accusation itself in order to conform to your prejudices.
If I say that the Bible speaks about the armor of God and power and principalities on this thread, I have quoted Scripture.
You have pointed fingers using your own notions, not God's.
If you sat for 20 minutes in the morning and evening and said the word Jesus to yourself in the mind, you are not going to be possessed by the devil and do evil things.
You understand less about evil, demons, and possession than you do about Scripture. I pray you don't learn the truth the hard way.
She looks like Marjorie Margolies, or maybe Dawn French -- or like something out of Blackadder.
I love Blackadder.
“It helps me to maintain balance... WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!”
Yes, gotta love that.
Maybe you need to read what I wrote again. You seem to have not comprehended it very well.
Transcendental Meditation must cause one heck of an appetite.
“Debate moderator Candy Crowley’s secret of success? Transcendental meditation”
I thought it was Twinkies!
The Bible is clear that any worship that is not towards the true God is towards devils . . . that does not equate to open and deliberate worship of Satan (i.e. believing in your own conscience that you are worshiping the enemy of God and intending to do so), but the Bible calls that kind of stuff Satanic notwithstanding. Now if you have a problem with that, take it up with the Bibles author.
OK, again, in order for you thesis that TM is Satanic to work, in your own words, it must be an act of worship. You chose the word 'worship' all on your own. What you have not done is to demonstrate that TM is a form of worship.
You tell me, what am I missing? It's very easy to just tell me I'm wrong, but the telling doesn't make it so.
I never said that meditation must be at all times an act of worship, nor did I write any such thing on this message board. Not only are you deliberately putting words in my mouth, you are making false claims.
I don’t have to demonstrate anything. TM was invented by a religious (Hindu) guru and he himself presented it in religious terms, especially when he talked of the mantras in terms of being “personal deities”. Now if you have a problem with that, then it is your problem alone.
ACK! Her Buddha belly must cover her eyes!