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Debate moderator Candy Crowley's secret of success? Transcendental meditation
Daily Mail ^ | 15 Oct 12 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 10/16/2012 11:01:24 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Candy Crowley, moderator of the second presidential debate may have a trick up her sleeve if things get tense between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney - she practices transcendental meditation twice a day.

The CNN anchor, who will be in charge of the 'town hall' style debate at Hofstra university on Long Island, New York, took up meditation after the 2008 election and managed to achieve what one website called a 'natural state of restful alertness'. She also credits the practice with her weight loss.

And in a campaign in which red meat rhetoric designed to attract party 'base' voters is ever present, she is a committed vegetarian.

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In May, Crowley gave the commencement address for students at the Maharishi University of Management. The university was set up in 1974 by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who created transcendental meditation, in Fairfield, Iowa.

Its mission is to 'provide a consciousness-based education holistic, relevant education for a successful life — not just a career — to ensure our happiness and to make real contributions in the world' and 'meditation and spiritual growth, self-exploration, higher consciousness, spirituality, and inner peace through the transcendental meditation technique'.

The meditation involves the repeated repetition of a sound, called a mantra, and is practiced for 15–20 minutes twice per day, while sitting with closed eyes.

Crowley told the gathered students: 'To get to where you want to go, you first have to stand and be who you are,' she said.

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To: radpolis

“Quote me one passage in the Bible where it says meditation is Satanic.”

Not exactly Satanic, but the current meditation fad isn’t scriptural. I believe that any time “meditate” or “meditation” is referred to in the Bible, it refers to meditating specifically about God/Christ or specific spiritual things. Current medication is generally self-centered — all about “me” (or donuts in the case of Ms. Crowley).


51 posted on 10/16/2012 11:38:51 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Olog-hai

Your interpretation of what you think the Bible says in order to conform to your own personal prejudices is not the same thing as what the Bible actually says.

Lastly, nobody is worshipping anything when they meditate.

How is saying a word that has no meaning the same as worshipping Satan?

You have no biblical defense of this whatsoever.

You really are stretching the realm of plausibility here to suit your own personal prejudices.

And, like I said, you have zero evidence to demonstrate the people who meditate are evil, devil worshippers.


52 posted on 10/16/2012 11:40:52 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: SkyPilot

Jai, Guru Dev!

Like wow, man. Jane Asher and Patti Boyd in 1967. Some kind of yummy!

53 posted on 10/16/2012 11:43:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Olog-hai
Thanks for link and comments.

Years ago I practiced TM. I don't recall it hurting me, at least I didn't think so.

TM, as well as other meditations and Christian prayer can be very soothing.

In the past two years, I have had 2 hip replacements and two bouts of bacterial infection, or whatever they called it. I've had four dental inplants and daily deal with Multiple Sclerosis.

Yeah, kind of a mess but meditation (TM) or not and, and even better still my prayer and intervention prayer from people too numerous to count.

With TM, you go into the deep recesses of brain waves. And, some of those recesses relieve pain.

I'll take prayer, intervention prayer, and meditation any day of the week. I haven't seen it as diabolical or the devil's joy.

I know God knows why I do it. I hope it does not count against me.

54 posted on 10/16/2012 11:43:32 AM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A SCAM.)
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To: SkyPilot

The devils I’ve known have been churchgoers condemning to hell meditation (which is incidentally what Catholic monks engage in, whether they call it Transcedental or not.)


55 posted on 10/16/2012 11:44:06 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Humming for 15 minutes,sitting with eyes closed, twice a day-—————silly me. That’s the standard bathroom terlet drill for lots of guys. How was I to know those guys were losing their mojo?


56 posted on 10/16/2012 11:45:29 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SkyPilot
She also credits the practice with her weight loss

Weight loss!?!?
What a pig!
What did she look like before!
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Never mind... I don't want to know.

57 posted on 10/16/2012 11:46:53 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Olog-hai

The scripture link you posted does not state what you claim. Try again.


58 posted on 10/16/2012 11:47:16 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: SkyPilot
” She also credits the practice with her weight loss.”

Well, that settles it, one look at her tells you it works./sarc

PS...I've raised hogs and they wont get that fat eating just veggies out of the salad bar.

59 posted on 10/16/2012 11:48:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: radpolis; Olog-hai

I agree with radopolis...meditation in and of itself isn’t evil, in my opinion.

I do tai-chi to cope with stress and improve my balance...it doesn’t mean I worship the Chinese or Satan or anything else.

I admit to not knowing much about TM, so if it means you have to repeat to yourself over and over again your fealty to Satan, I might change my mind.

But heck...if it is just repeating something to yourself, I guess I am guilty...when I go on long hikes, I often get a piece of music stuck in a repeating cycle in my head. Granted, if it were rap, I would say that was a crime against nature...:)


60 posted on 10/16/2012 11:50:57 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: SkyPilot
She also credits the practice with her weight loss

"I dont care who ya are ... thats funny!"

61 posted on 10/16/2012 11:51:18 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: crusty old prospector
“Weight loss? She had better try Slim Fast.”

More like a surgeon with a shop-vac.

62 posted on 10/16/2012 11:51:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Mom MD

Show me a person who lets his mind go blank for 20 minutes twice a day and I’ll show you a guy who isn’t going to get near my shop, machinery, heavy equipment, or even sharp tools. Maybe we’d give him a rubber hammer and let him thump himself to sleep.


63 posted on 10/16/2012 11:53:46 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Olog-hai
I learned how to do TM back around 1973. Did it for about a year, during which I got no grade less than a 3.5 taking 20 credits/term as a Mechanical Engineering major.

And, during the instruction, there was no mention of any kind of worship. Fortunately or unfortunately, I got out of the habit of it, although it's not hard to do.

There was a book released around that time by a Harvard professor named (I think) Herbert Benson that was called The Relaxation Response which, in effect, provided scientific support for the benefits of that particular method of meditation. As I recall, he described how to do it, trying to de-mystify it and make it available without enriching "The Maharishi" who really was a bit of a charlatan.

64 posted on 10/16/2012 11:54:19 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: radpolis; SkyPilot

where I come from we just call it a nap.


65 posted on 10/16/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Jyotishi; SkyPilot
Thanks for posting article...I never followed or worshipped Mahareshi, he seemed like kind of a ..... I don't know what....maybe celebrity hound.

On the other hand, there are studies for how meditating, and prayer, affect the brain in positive ways.

I'm in on meditation and prayer. I have heard of saints in meditation to deepen their prayer.

Of course, I can't name them (maybe St. Terese; maybe Julian of Norwich), but I guess this would be as good a time to read "Lives of the Saints".

66 posted on 10/16/2012 11:57:49 AM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A SCAM.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

HA, HA...at least the color is close!


67 posted on 10/16/2012 11:58:52 AM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A SCAM.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Hmmmmm.....hmmmmmm.....HMMMMMMM!


68 posted on 10/16/2012 12:01:30 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Hmmmmm.....hmmmmmm.....HMMMMMMM!

Better for me not to meditate on that!

69 posted on 10/16/2012 12:02:47 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: editor-surveyor
"One guy I worked with began to studder so bad that he had to carry a note pad to communicate, and finally had to be institutionalized." Wow, I am so sorry to here this. Hope he has improved.

God bless and heal him.

70 posted on 10/16/2012 12:05:50 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: hummingbird

A person as large as she is does not speak well of self-control and self-esteem. Chubby-chaser alert!!!! I bet she has a large tub of M&Ms next to her tonight. From the pics of her she still has to go to a freight company bay to get weighed. I bet her TM mantra is “mmmm...mmmmn...good”.


71 posted on 10/16/2012 12:06:35 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
"I want to transcend dental medication."

Good one!

72 posted on 10/16/2012 12:07:35 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: GreenHornet
"f she went outside dressed like that, people would be hailing her down, thinking she was a cab."

Yes! She needs to checker her cap, black and yellow!

73 posted on 10/16/2012 12:09:45 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: paratrooper82

TM hasn’t helped her lose any weight.


74 posted on 10/16/2012 12:35:14 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: SkyPilot
I'm afraid the demoniacs have us surrounded.

Pray. Pray very hard.

75 posted on 10/16/2012 12:46:49 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: radpolis; editor-surveyor; Olog-hai; metmom
radpolis,

I would urge anyone, in the strongest of possible terms, to avoid Transcendental Meditation (TM) like the plague.

I am completely serious.

It is a very dangerous practice, and not at all Biblical. I can post some guidance here, but you have Google at your fingertips. I suggest you do some searches of "Bible" and "Transcendental Meditation" or a combination of related terms.

If you are an honest searcher, what you find will be very instructional.

Quite simply, TM is a pagan, Hindu based mechanism that is completely out of phase with the fundamental foundation of Jesus Christ being the way, the truth, and the life. It is very dangerous. Anyone that dabbles in it is playing with the occult. The occult is a tool used by demons and Satan to ensnare the unsuspecting into a literal living hell.

What does the Bible teach about meditation?

As mentioned by a previous poster, TM is a completely different animal than "meditating" on scripture and holy things, as mentioned in the Psalms or Romans. Placing yourself into a trance-like state in an attempt to achieve something is definitely not the way the Bible reveals a Christian should behave. The Bible warns strongly against it. TM teaches that salvation is found within. It teaches inner divinity. It is completely un-Biblical.

Here is but one site that speaks towards this:

No amount of chanting, breathing, visualizing, or physical contortions will melt away the sin that separates us from the Lord of the cosmos—however "peaceful" these practices may feel. Moreover, Paul warns that "Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light" (2 Cor. 11:14). "Pleasant" experiences may be portals to peril. Even yoga teachers warn that yoga may open one up to spiritual and physical maladies. The answer to our plight is not found in some "higher level of consciousness" (really a deceptive state of mind), but in placing our faith in the unmatched achievements of Jesus Christ on our behalf. If it were possible to find enlightenment within, God would not have sent "his one and only Son" (John 3:16) to die on the Cross for our sins in order to give us new life and hope for eternity through Christ's resurrection. We cannot raise ourselves from the dead. The biblical concept of prayer assumes that rational and meaningful communication between God and humans is possible. There is no summons to suspend rational judgment even when prayer through the Holy Spirit is "with groans that words cannot express" (Rom. 8:26). Nor should we repeat words meaninglessly to induce a trance (Matt. 6:7).

Last year, I read a book entitled "Hostage to the Devil" by Malachi Martin.

There were (I believe) five cases of possession and exorcism. Not all occult practices lead to complete possession (the worst affliction), however, all occult practices lead to destruction of our relationship with God.

In one of the cases, a university professor named "Carl" practiced a technique very, very similar to TM. He was deceived by a very powerful demon, and become completely possessed. It is a horrifying account if you read the entire case.

So, how does this relate to the debate tonight, and why is it relevant?

From my vantage point, as a Christian, we clearly have a woman (Crowley) who was raised in a nation where she had the freedom to worship God or to completely reject God. She chose the later.

Do not think that Satan is not real, and that he does not have an incredible interest in this election. We are on the battle front of good vs. evil - the future of our nation, or it's destruction. The fate of our relationship with Israel is at stake.

I do not think it is an accident that Crowley is moderating, and I do not think for a second that she will not attempt to influence this debate in a way that will attempt to protect the evil that is Barack Hussein Obama.

76 posted on 10/16/2012 12:50:14 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

With all due respect, I don’t believe in any of that hocus pocus.

If there is any evil influence governing the lives of Barack Obama and Candy Crowley, it is their Lord and Master, Karl Marx, a real man(though long dead), not the devil or demons taking hold of their minds through meditation.


77 posted on 10/16/2012 1:05:33 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Lazamataz

>>Let’s go easy on Candy. She’s closer to a real journalist than most over there, and also, CNN seems to be seriously eyeing the demographic (right-of-center folks) that Fox seems to be abandoning.<<

I’ve been wondering if Crowley would make a different play here. While I give this only about a 1% chance of happening, if that, she could make herself instantly famous if she chose hard-hitting audience questions for Obama and then went after him with her follow-ups to ensure that he really answered them, or to make it very clear that he wasn’t about to answer them.

Obama’s re-election is in trouble, obviously. The way it stands now he’s in danger of going into a downward spiral where virtually everyone gives up on him except his hardcore base. Tough questioning by Crowley could put an end to his chances of recovering, but doing so would lend instant credibility to CNN and to her as well. lf Obama plunged in the polls immediately following the debate, her questioning would get the credit (or blame).

In other words, she has a chance to be the first American reporter (Univision already tried) to really put our President on the spot and get him to address the many issues he’s managed to duck the past 3 and a half years. If she does this successfully, and his poll numbers plunge, and he eventually loses, she’ll be viewed by many as the equivalent of Woodward and Bernstein when they took down Nixon. Granted, the Left will despise her, but as you said CNN appears to be making a recent play for the mainstream and a move like this by Crowley would make that quite obvious.

Just wondering if any of this has occurred to Crowley or to the powers that be at CNN.


78 posted on 10/16/2012 1:16:57 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Olog-hai

The Bible is clear that any worship that is not towards the true God is towards devils

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So your thesis that TM is Satanic rests upon the notion that meditation is the same as worship. Have you made that argument yet? I must have missed it.


79 posted on 10/16/2012 1:18:54 PM PDT by dmz
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To: radpolis
With all due respect, I don’t believe in any of that hocus pocus.

May I ask you, why did you ask for clarification of what the Bible or Christian doctrine has to say on this matter, but then utterly reject the evidence with hand waving once it was given?

You and I may be on the same side politically, but from a spiritual perspective you and I differ on the trivial notions such as heaven, hell, death, redemption, sin, and salvation.

In that respect, you and Crowley are on the same side.

There is a battle going on. It is real.

"Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

Ephesians 6:10-12

80 posted on 10/16/2012 1:19:02 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Darksheare
The first year after college graduation seven of us shared a large turn-of-the-century-before-last house. One was a tm devotee. One day when we were having fun he came out of his room very angry, shouting he was trying to meditate. It goes without saying we fell down laughing at that.
81 posted on 10/16/2012 1:25:50 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: Revolting cat!
Looks like something from a Sid and Marty Kroft production.


82 posted on 10/16/2012 1:40:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono

Is she going to have a T.M. before she goes on the air tonight?


83 posted on 10/16/2012 1:41:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: SkyPilot

You didn’t give me any clarifications whatsoever.

One of the things that drives me nuts about most Christians today is this notion of reading the Bible and interpreting it to support their own prejudices.

I can get 20 Christians in the same room and everybody is going to interpret the Bible the way want to.

And I don’t know what your quote has to do with meditation.

However, I guarantee you this:

If you sat for 20 minutes in the morning and evening and said the word Jesus to yourself in the mind, you are not going to be possessed by the devil and do evil things.


84 posted on 10/16/2012 1:44:53 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: a fool in paradise; Revolting cat!; JoeProBono
Debate moderator Candy Crowley's secret of success? Transcendental meditation

They misspelled "Ho-Hos".

85 posted on 10/16/2012 2:09:45 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: radpolis

You are lost in dreamland and should seek help from a strong Christian pastor with experience in demons.


86 posted on 10/16/2012 2:19:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SkyPilot
Candy Crowley

Any relation to Aleister Crowley?

87 posted on 10/16/2012 2:21:24 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: cherokee1

You make light of something that destroys lives.


88 posted on 10/16/2012 2:24:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Lee N. Field

Swell guy!


89 posted on 10/16/2012 2:39:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: radpolis
One of the things that drives me nuts about most Christians today is this notion of reading the Bible and interpreting it to support their own prejudices.

That is quintessential circular firing squad argument that is constantly thrown about, but doesn't stand firm on its own weak foundation.

God gave us His Word in clear, easy to understand, and thoughtful language. It says what it means, and it means what it says.

When He says homosexuality is wrong, a child could understand it.

People who will not accept His Word twist themselves into knots trying to say it doesn't mean what it says it says.

You arbitrarily accuse Christians of "interpreting it to support their own prejudices" and then offer zero Biblical evidence to prove this as fact. Moreover, you throw out the accusation itself in order to conform to your prejudices.

If I say that the Bible speaks about the armor of God and power and principalities on this thread, I have quoted Scripture.

You have pointed fingers using your own notions, not God's.

If you sat for 20 minutes in the morning and evening and said the word Jesus to yourself in the mind, you are not going to be possessed by the devil and do evil things.

You understand less about evil, demons, and possession than you do about Scripture. I pray you don't learn the truth the hard way.

90 posted on 10/16/2012 2:51:54 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Dude! That lady from Harry Potter is moderating the debates:

She looks like Marjorie Margolies, or maybe Dawn French -- or like something out of Blackadder.

91 posted on 10/16/2012 2:55:19 PM PDT by x
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To: Mom MD
Sigh. It gets worse:

Presidential debate moderator has history of Planned Parenthood/abortion support


92 posted on 10/16/2012 3:00:13 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: x

I love Blackadder.


93 posted on 10/16/2012 3:01:59 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: PhilDragoo

“It helps me to maintain balance... WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!”

Yes, gotta love that.


94 posted on 10/16/2012 4:28:36 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: dmz

Maybe you need to read what I wrote again. You seem to have not comprehended it very well.


95 posted on 10/16/2012 4:38:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SkyPilot

Transcendental Meditation must cause one heck of an appetite.


96 posted on 10/16/2012 4:40:09 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: SkyPilot

“Debate moderator Candy Crowley’s secret of success? Transcendental meditation”

I thought it was Twinkies!


97 posted on 10/16/2012 4:41:10 PM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: Olog-hai
Here is what you wrote:

The Bible is clear that any worship that is not towards the true God is towards devils . . . that does not equate to open and deliberate worship of Satan (i.e. believing in your own conscience that you are worshiping the enemy of God and intending to do so), but the Bible calls that kind of stuff Satanic notwithstanding. Now if you have a problem with that, take it up with the Bible’s author.

OK, again, in order for you thesis that TM is Satanic to work, in your own words, it must be an act of worship. You chose the word 'worship' all on your own. What you have not done is to demonstrate that TM is a form of worship.

You tell me, what am I missing? It's very easy to just tell me I'm wrong, but the telling doesn't make it so.

98 posted on 10/17/2012 8:22:34 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

I never said that meditation must be at all times an act of worship, nor did I write any such thing on this message board. Not only are you deliberately putting words in my mouth, you are making false claims.

I don’t have to demonstrate anything. TM was invented by a religious (Hindu) guru and he himself presented it in religious terms, especially when he talked of the mantras in terms of being “personal deities”. Now if you have a problem with that, then it is your problem alone.


99 posted on 10/17/2012 10:46:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: miss marmelstein

ACK! Her Buddha belly must cover her eyes!


100 posted on 10/17/2012 10:47:31 AM PDT by miserare
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