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**LIVE THREAD II** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00 pm Eastern)
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ ^

Posted on 10/16/2012 6:08:59 PM PDT by I Am Not A Mod

Originally Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

This is a thread to split the load.

You can watch the debate online here: http://www.youtube.com/politics?feature=inp-hp-ype-26

Town Hall debate.

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To: Jrabbit; Sarah
Good at what....or, is that too personal...

Good at moderating.

The idea that you would have to ask that questions infers that you don't know much about debating.

151 posted on 10/16/2012 7:47:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Sarah

Obama did not look as hung over as the last debate.

But, he blathered through it.

Romney led him on several questions.


152 posted on 10/16/2012 7:48:12 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Vendome; Hoodat; Sarah

Yes, yes, but she is far fairer than I expected her to be. Not down the middle, not unbiased, but far better than expected.


153 posted on 10/16/2012 7:49:00 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1365 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Vendome

Nor do they even try too hard to get away...


154 posted on 10/16/2012 7:51:13 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1365 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Sarah

The forum on the Daily Caller was EXCELLENT! Place to be tonight. Sorry FR, but Daily Caller’s servers are bigger than yours.


155 posted on 10/16/2012 7:52:16 PM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Seriously... This time, he prepared.
Romney still won. Obama... I’d give him him... something. At least for the uneducated.
I think that next time Romney has to go for the jugular. TALK about Obama’s vacation budget. TALK about the fact that he (Romney) doesn’t NEED the money.
Obama has the unwashed majority. FACE IT.
She did a better job than I could have done... and I’m fearless!


156 posted on 10/16/2012 7:53:54 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: KeyLargo

Maybe he didn’t believe in capitalism “back when he was president” but he does now?

Obviously the Dems are pissing themselves about the women’s vote.

I was sick of hearing “women” questions lobbed.


157 posted on 10/16/2012 7:54:15 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: chessplayer

I thought Romney won. This should not reverse Romney’s trend in the polls.


158 posted on 10/16/2012 7:54:29 PM PDT by freedom1st
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To: Vendome
She keeps bailing that tard out and then acting as an interviewer.

That she had to do it repeatedly will be obvious to the viewing public. Says more about him than her.

Besides, she was trying to help Romney as well. She tried to stop him when time was out and he had made his point, and was repeating stats.

159 posted on 10/16/2012 7:54:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Sarah

I’m in CA. (was that your question?)

You’re a Republican? Well color me surprised. /s LOL


160 posted on 10/16/2012 7:55:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Sarah

Also, I know it’s been years... but I’m back in the US!


161 posted on 10/16/2012 7:55:26 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Sarah; Vendome

Also, I know it’s been years... but I’m back in the US!


162 posted on 10/16/2012 7:55:49 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: NormsRevenge
Candy bails O out by cutting off this foreign poolicy question and exchanges.. saved by a rat..

As much as commenters are making a big deal out of Candy helping Obama... does anyone think it helped ? Anyone ?

163 posted on 10/16/2012 7:57:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: gotribe
Brett Beir and Brit Hume both said Romney was right when he said that Obama hadn't labeled the Benghazi attack an act of terror in the Rose Garden on 9/12. Chris Wallace said that Romney was right about the on-shore and off-shore drilling licenses. Under Obama, off-shore licenses were cut 62% lower than what the Bush administration had approved. On-short under Obama were cut 1/3.

I noticed somebody's comment was deleted by the moderator. I find that pretty funny since the majority of the people who tried to post on these debate threads were not able to because the servers wouldn't respond.

164 posted on 10/16/2012 7:58:15 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I only listened to the 1st debate and it didn’t sound like the Romney win everyone said it was. Tonight, I was able to watch and saw that Romney came with a full case of whoop-ass and used every bit of it.


165 posted on 10/16/2012 7:59:24 PM PDT by Dissident1
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To: gotribe
Brett Beir and Brit Hume both said Romney was right when he said that Obama hadn't labeled the Benghazi attack an act of terror in the Rose Garden on 9/12. Chris Wallace said that Romney was right about the on-shore and off-shore drilling licenses. Under Obama, off-shore licenses were cut 62% lower than what the Bush administration had approved. On-short under Obama were cut 1/3.

I noticed somebody's comment was deleted by the moderator. I find that pretty funny since the majority of the people who tried to post on these debate threads were not able to because the servers wouldn't respond.

166 posted on 10/16/2012 8:02:01 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Double Tap; Sarah; Admin Moderator

WTH are you talking about?

That is what? The second or third person you have inexclicably called a troll.

Maybe you need time out or you better step away from the bar.

Sarah has had at various times had some really, really good thoughts on this forum and I appreciate her/him? LOL I don’t know...


167 posted on 10/16/2012 8:02:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: I Am Not A Mod

If not for the Candy trying to help the President on Libya, I would have said she was an excellent moderator.

I liked Romney for this one if nothing else than for pointing out the President’s failures.

He’s a businessman and knows how to run a budget.....

I’m happy.


168 posted on 10/16/2012 8:02:21 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Sarah

Mais non! J’etais a Paris tout ce temps!
Mais j’ai des photos de marriage de ma fille a Place Vendome.
CA, je me rappelles. Depuis 2009, je suis a NY.
Les Americains n’ont pas de subtilite. Blancs et Noirs.
Elle etait forte!


169 posted on 10/16/2012 8:02:29 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Sarah

Don’t know about that, but I did smile when she told obama to stop talking, he argued with her and she told him in very stern voice you are done we must move along.


170 posted on 10/16/2012 8:03:11 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: gotribe
Brett Beir and Brit Hume both said Romney was right when he said that Obama hadn't labeled the Benghazi attack an act of terror in the Rose Garden on 9/12. Chris Wallace said that Romney was right about the on-shore and off-shore drilling licenses. Under Obama, off-shore licenses were cut 62% lower than what the Bush administration had approved. On-short under Obama were cut 1/3.

I noticed somebody's comment was deleted by the moderator. I find that pretty funny since the majority of the people who tried to post on these debate threads were not able to because the servers wouldn't respond.

171 posted on 10/16/2012 8:03:40 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Hoodat
Romney was right. Crowley was wrong.

I didn't think Romney would mention it if he hadn't had it thoroughly verified.

I am sure that will be headline news tomorrow.


172 posted on 10/16/2012 8:05:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: I Am Not A Mod

If this is Debate Thread II, where is Debate Thread I?


173 posted on 10/16/2012 8:06:50 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: mass55th

Krauthammer gives obama the win. I think he’s right. Romney missed on libya, could have put a hundred daggers through obama on that one.


174 posted on 10/16/2012 8:07:43 PM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Brett Beir and Brit Hume both said Romney was right when he said that Obama hadn't labeled the Benghazi attack an act of terror in the Rose Garden on 9/12. Chris Wallace said that Romney was right about the on-shore and off-shore drilling licenses. Under Obama, off-shore licenses were cut 62% lower than what the Bush administration had approved. On-short under Obama were cut 1/3.

I noticed somebody's comment was deleted by the moderator. I find that pretty funny since the majority of the people who tried to post on these debate threads were not able to because the servers wouldn't respond.

175 posted on 10/16/2012 8:08:10 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: I Am Not A Mod

If not for the Candy trying to help the President on Libya, I would have said she was an excellent moderator.

I liked Romney for this one if nothing else than for pointing out the President’s failures.

He’s a businessman and knows how to run a budget.....

I’m happy.


176 posted on 10/16/2012 8:08:45 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: I Am Not A Mod

obama won it in the late innings. With Crowley deliberately helping obama, Romney lost the Libya exchange. And obama hitting Romney with 47% hurt Romney.


177 posted on 10/16/2012 8:12:02 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: gotribe

huh?
All obama did was stump speech speak.
He didn’t say anything new, and what he said were out right lies or distortions to the max.......ok that would be a win in liar’s world.


178 posted on 10/16/2012 8:12:38 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Vendome; Hoodat; Sarah
...and she is wrong to keep giving Obama an assist, time and time again.

Look, she's just trying to give the tard a break. Even that hasn't helped.

179 posted on 10/16/2012 8:12:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Vendome; Hoodat; Sarah
...and she is wrong to keep giving Obama an assist, time and time again.

Look, she's just trying to give the tard a break. Even that hasn't helped.

180 posted on 10/16/2012 8:13:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: mass55th

Krauthamer said Obama won on points and Romney failed to take the opening when Obama said that he DID say it was terrorism the day after and Crowley cut Romney off saying that Obmama was right.


181 posted on 10/16/2012 8:14:15 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: gotribe
obama just lost the gang-banger vote.

Naah. Street gangs are very important for the commie left. They've always stood firmly behind them.

Photobucket

182 posted on 10/16/2012 8:14:26 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: mass55th

Krauthamer said Obama won on points and Romney failed to take the opening when Obama said that he DID say it was terrorism the day after and Crowley cut Romney off saying that Obmama was right.


183 posted on 10/16/2012 8:15:15 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Tenacious 1

Is anyone asking why in the world Candy Crowley had a transcript of Soetoro’s 9/12 Rose Garden speech sitting in front of her?

(and if someone says it was a tablet, how many other misstatements was it used to correct?)


184 posted on 10/16/2012 8:15:32 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Sarah

The server is overloaded and yet you keep posting “She’s GOOD”! Your posts are coming off like you are unbalanced.


185 posted on 10/16/2012 8:16:30 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Wow - Luntz focus group really tearing into Obama.


186 posted on 10/16/2012 8:17:00 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Drink Tea - not Kool-Aid.)
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To: gotribe
"Krauthammer gives obama the win. "

Can you win a debate when your comments are known lies?

187 posted on 10/16/2012 8:17:10 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Tenacious 1

Crowley was disgraceful. Beyond the procedural (cutting Romney off and not affording him the same opportunities to rebut she afforded Obama), she preselected the questions which were basically Dem talking points.


188 posted on 10/16/2012 8:17:12 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: murron

Its a secret.


189 posted on 10/16/2012 8:19:04 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: mass55th

I thought Romney missed a great opportunity when Obama was criticizing tax cuts as a “cost” and framed cuts as “government spending”.

“It’s - not - the - government’s - money!” should have been the retort followed with a WTH are you talking about look. Coulda put this commie away... a “there you go again” moment


190 posted on 10/16/2012 8:23:04 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Brit Hume said that Crowley was wrong. Obama just said gin the Rose Garden that in general terrorism was bad, but Obama DID NOT say specifically, or call the Bengazi attack an act of terrorism.

I have not seen the transcript of Obama’s statement on that day but Greta has it online now.


191 posted on 10/16/2012 8:23:18 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: eyedigress

Luntz said the reaction with his focus group going favorable for Romney was as significant as Denver with a big switch of undecideds tonight going to Romney.


192 posted on 10/16/2012 8:23:49 PM PDT by AU72
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To: trappedincanuckistan
"Crowley was disgraceful."

Yes, she was. She didn't challenge Obama on any of his statements, yet she challenged Romney over the "terror" comment, and it turns out he was right. Fox said their official figures show she gave Obama and extra 2 minutes to speak.

193 posted on 10/16/2012 8:24:50 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: KeyLargo

Two crucial issues where there were loss of life, Benghazi, fast n furious.......Crowley ran interference for Obama, cut Romney off and moved on. Even admonished Romney with what O Supposedley sid in his soeech. Regarding F&F, Obama closed it down even saying there are people with other questions. The moo moo once again gave O unchecked power.


194 posted on 10/16/2012 8:25:06 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Tuxedo

I saw Luntz’s group also. I’m totally wowed by how they turned in favor of Romney. Said it was as significant as Denver.


195 posted on 10/16/2012 8:26:45 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Double Tap; Sarah

I believe Candy did an excellent job moderating as well.

Call me a troll, if you will.

None of Sarah’s responses were any indication of ‘troll’ activity, and your comment proves you wouldn’t know a troll from the opposite end of your mouth.

You seem to be a poster who likes to ban anyone who says something they don’t believe or like. Why don’t you just rebut her claim ? Is it because you like the EASY BUTTON ?

Crowley did a good job. Biased some? Sure. As far as trying to keep them on track, and get in all the questions, and yet allowing them to ‘have their say’, she did better than the moderator at the first debate.

Even with her help, did you consider it a win for Obama ?

Can you even remember anything he said ?


196 posted on 10/16/2012 8:27:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

I meant to say Fox’s unofficial figures, not official.


197 posted on 10/16/2012 8:27:14 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: I Am Not A Mod
The subtle wins tonight?

OH and PA...

By accident with the questions Romney gave them the answers they needed on Coal, Oil / Gas Fracking and the 2nd Admendment.

Move the needle big nationally? probably not, Seal Ohio and PA definitely...

198 posted on 10/16/2012 8:28:55 PM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: I Am Not A Mod
The subtle wins tonight?

OH and PA...

By accident with the questions Romney gave them the answers they needed on Coal, Oil / Gas Fracking and the 2nd Admendment.

Move the needle big nationally? probably not, Seal Ohio and PA definitely...

199 posted on 10/16/2012 8:28:56 PM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; I Am Not A Mod; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
Remember that claim that last weeks Frank Luntz/FNC/Hannity undecided focus group was a Democrat setup because they gave some points to Biden, and about 3/4 of them voted for Obama in 2008? Remember I strongly disagreed?

Well just minutes ago the same focus group about 3/4 of them said they are now voting for Romney after this debate. That is a flip of 1/2. That is much more informative than a sample of Rush 24/7 members as some seem to want to poll.

Romney had few weak points but he was generally strong confident looking and he looked Presidential.

Libs on the Dem channel claiming victory LOL.

200 posted on 10/16/2012 8:29:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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