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Justice Stevens: 'Maybe You Have Some Kind of Constitutional Right to a Cell Phone...'
CNS News.com ^ | 10/16/2012 | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 10/17/2012 7:11:14 AM PDT by VRWCmember

Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, speaking at an event hosted by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s Legal Action Project, said Monday said that having “some kind of constitutional right to a cell phone with a predialed 911 at your bedside might be better protection than a gun.”

“I’m not sure I actually have captured the entire question, but it does occur to me that one thing that I thought about from time to time is that maybe you have some kind of constitutional right to have a cell phone with a predialed 911 number at your bedside, and that might provide you with a little better protection than a gun, which you’re not used to using,” Stevens said.

Jonathan Lowy, Brady Center Legal Action Project director, read a question from the audience, saying: “The Supreme Court held that the 2nd Amendment assures our right to have a handgun in the home for self-defense as you say. This question’s asked: ‘That protects only gun owners. What about those who don’t have guns? Surely they have a right of self-defense. Instead of relying on the 2nd Amendment and dealing with gun laws, wouldn’t it be more rational to rely directly on the right we all have to self-defense. What are your thoughts on that?’

Stevens was appointed to the high court in 1975 by President Gerald Ford. He retired in 2010. He is considered the third-longest serving justice.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; dial911anddie; electionsmatter; supremecourt; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Red in Blue PA

In which they also ruled even if the police do show they are not required to take life saving actions. or place their lives at risk to save yours.

IOW, this “just us” believes we are to be sheep.


51 posted on 10/17/2012 8:13:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: smith288

"What is the victim gonna do with a govt provided phone? Hit the attacker over the head with it? UGH"

Well sure.  Much MUCH more time efficient to call the cops and wait 5 to 10 minutes for them to arrive than to just reach into your night stand and grab your loaded glock and shoot your attacker.  Makes all the sense in the world to me. 

 

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52 posted on 10/17/2012 8:16:05 AM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom does not promise safety and security, freedom only promises freedom.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

I believe The Federalist Papers also went over the Apple/Android thing .


53 posted on 10/17/2012 8:16:30 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: VRWCmember
Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, speaking at an event hosted by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s Legal Action Project, said Monday said that having “some kind of constitutional right to a cell phone with a predialed 911 at your bedside might be better protection than a gun.”


54 posted on 10/17/2012 8:16:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Seconds to act & protect your loved ones.... ...Perhaps seconds to live...

One thing I learned doing dispatch work for the police .... no matter how fast you are in dispatching the officers and considering that a police car is rarely in the immediate vicinity where it would do some good (like parked in the victim's driveway) so it takes some minutes at best to get to the scene, it is up to John Q. citizen to protect himself when in a situation where time is not a luxury and where seconds make the difference between life or death. Me .... I'd rather have a gun than a cell phone for self-defense.

55 posted on 10/17/2012 8:16:59 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: driftdiver
So you have a right to a cell phone to call police. But you don’t have a right to protection by the police.

BTTT!

You are correct and your statement IS settled law: the courts have stated that there is NO obligation on the part of the police to respond to all calls!

Therefore, you may have a right to call the police, but you have no right nor guarantee that they will respond! I hope that helps the libtards sleep well at night! IDIOTS!
56 posted on 10/17/2012 8:18:18 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: C210N

Yes but you need a warning label you know..

Warning: using both functions on your “cell phone” at the same time may cause hearing loss.....


57 posted on 10/17/2012 8:18:38 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: VRWCmember

Dial 911. When the cops are only minutes away; the criminal is only SECONDS away from shooting you. - Where we are; the cops are more like an hour away. I’m keeping cans of bear spray in every room and hoping that some visiting kid doesn’t decide it would be fun to spritz me!


58 posted on 10/17/2012 8:31:15 AM PDT by Twinkie (WE ARE HURTING . . .)
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To: VRWCmember

What a dumb ass!


59 posted on 10/17/2012 8:33:32 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: VRWCmember

Thank God this doddering old fool is retired.


60 posted on 10/17/2012 8:34:11 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: VRWCmember

Stevens must be dribbling tapioca on his chin.
dial 911 and what will the cops bring ? guns.

you’ve just lost time.


61 posted on 10/17/2012 8:39:58 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
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To: VRWCmember
Well I do happen to have a cell phone by my bed at night, but I doubt if I throw it much injury will be inflicted. I will trust my aim and .38 to take care of any intruders. What an idiotic statement.
62 posted on 10/17/2012 8:40:19 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: VRWCmember

In addition to his stupid logic, he is also ignorant about cell phones. All cell phone made in the last ten years will call 911, even if there is no contract (or minutes available for prepaid service). You can get an old cell phone from a thrift shop, charge it up and then connect to a 911 operator. A lot of women’s abuse centers hand out old cell phones to women for this very reason.


63 posted on 10/17/2012 8:53:38 AM PDT by fini
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To: VRWCmember

It is sad to watch someone slowly slip into dementia. I am glad Justice Stevens is retired.


64 posted on 10/17/2012 9:12:33 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: VRWCmember

...”some kind of constitutional right to a cell phone with a predialed 911 at your bedside might be better protection than a gun.”

Good but not enough. Said phone must have its own integrated mini-printer, and a sworn judge on the call center end sitting next to the 911 dispatcher.

That way you can be issued an emergency ex parte order of protection from “the person or persons [hereafter known as the Respondant(s)] intent upon unlawful entry and causing the Petitioner to fear bodily injury or death.”

Once the police find that protective order next to your body, they’ll know you really didn’t want your attacker in your bedroom.


65 posted on 10/17/2012 9:23:40 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: driftdiver
So you have a right to a cell phone to call police. But you don’t have a right to protection by the police.

LOL -- Good catch!
The USSC has ruled multiple times that there is no affirmative obligation for a police officer to ensure the safety of a private citizen.

66 posted on 10/17/2012 9:25:49 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: VRWCmember

Flawed thinking by Stevens. All of those 911 calls will only overwhelm the Police and delay further any response time, resulting in more rapes, robberies and murders.

What we need is to guarantee, under the Constitution, every person in the US his own personal police officer, present at all times, on the spot to thwart any potential crime.

Now, dammit! The Constitution requires it, right next to where it says all abortion all the time.


67 posted on 10/17/2012 9:30:56 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: VRWCmember
“I’m not sure I actually have captured the entire question, but it does occur to me that one thing that I thought about from time to time is that maybe you have some kind of constitutional right to have a cell phone with a predialed 911 number at your bedside..."

"When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away."
How old is this guy now? Like, a million?

68 posted on 10/17/2012 9:40:18 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: puppypusher

911 can be helpful if its used in conjunction with your firearm.
Tell 911 there’s someone in your house, shout that you have a gun.. *bang*
Clear cut self defense.


69 posted on 10/17/2012 9:44:02 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: originalbuckeye
Our SCOTUS is a disgrace.

Yes, yes,yes. I've lost all respect for it as a whole.

70 posted on 10/17/2012 10:31:42 AM PDT by Digger (A)
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To: VRWCmember

I did get it off the Internet, so its not original to me.

Hopefully it did put a smile on your face. Its not only funny but true.


71 posted on 10/17/2012 10:44:07 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: VRWCmember

When I dialed 9-1-1 in N California, I got a dispatcher in SACRAMENTO....about 45 miles away.

She didn’t even know where GRASS VALLEY even was. I had to explain it to her. That took some minutes. I called because a car had just fone thru my horse fence & it was obvious that the occupants were on something.

If I were under attack, I would not have that luxury.

Where I live now in N Nevada, 9-1-1 gets me to the Nevada State Highway Patrol- which could be fielding my call as far away as Las Vegas—over 450 miles.

I know the local Sheriff dispatch number by heart & can dial it in the dark.

9-1-1 doesn’t get you fast response where you are. That is a myth.


72 posted on 10/17/2012 12:54:38 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: puppypusher

Interestingly, it’s absolutely illegal to manufacture a gun disguised as a cellphone...


73 posted on 10/17/2012 3:06:03 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: VRWCmember
No one can ever have a right to the product of someone else's labor. We shed a lot of blood, establishing that, and it truly pains me to see purportedly educated people forgetting it.
It is the eternal struggle between these two principles -- right and wrong -- throughout the world. They are the two principles that have stood face to face from the beginning of time, and will ever continue to struggle. The one is the common right of humanity and the other the divine right of kings. It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. It is the same spirit that says, 'You work and toil and earn bread, and I'll eat it.' No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle.

74 posted on 10/17/2012 5:28:48 PM PDT by jdege
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To: VRWCmember

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away!


75 posted on 10/17/2012 5:30:11 PM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: VRWCmember

THIS is what YEARS of idiocy generated by the schools, the media and Hollywood social messaging produces.

Stevens, like Bader-Ginsberg,Souter, etc is simply a nut-case.

But then look at who selects these jerks - and approves of them.


76 posted on 10/17/2012 6:43:42 PM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: VRWCmember
Just Wow! An incoherent and idiotic response to an incoherent and idiotic question.

Made by an idiotic and incoherent person.

77 posted on 10/17/2012 11:24:10 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: VRWCmember

Well, since in libs “minds”, 2A only guarantees you the RKBA the arms that existed when it was written, how could you possibly have a Constitutional right to technologies that were completely undiscovered at that time?


78 posted on 10/18/2012 8:58:32 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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