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1 posted on 10/18/2012 8:36:40 PM PDT by Steelfish
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Sounds like using corn for fuel, it will probably take more energy input than what you get out of it.


2 posted on 10/18/2012 8:40:00 PM PDT by bigtoona
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“........Company officials say they had produced five litres of petrol in less than three months from a small refinery......”
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Five liters in less than three months? I’m sure this will really be cost effective and completely eliminate the need to actually drill for oil. I expect Obama & crew to announce an award of 1/2 billion dollars to these folks any day now.


3 posted on 10/18/2012 8:43:43 PM PDT by House Atreides
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Oh my god! This is funnier than something from the onion! My wife and I couldn’t stop cracking up.


4 posted on 10/18/2012 8:43:54 PM PDT by bolobaby
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Sounds like the Solyndra execs have setup shop in the UK.


5 posted on 10/18/2012 8:44:09 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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Somehow, just somehow, even if they can truly do this, I will bet one hundred and eleventy billion dollars that it requires much more energy (just from the electrolysis part alone), than you actually get from the petrol. But with the word “climate change” inserted eleventy billion times, they are sure to get lots of free government money to develop it, and will retire in the bahamas just before the government realizes it isn’t worth the investment.


7 posted on 10/18/2012 8:44:24 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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Nothing like using a couple of megawatts to produce a few kilowatts of energy, but hey we are saving the planet.


8 posted on 10/18/2012 8:44:55 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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Since plants need carbon dioxide to live, if this technology really works well won’t we potentially be reducing plant growth by reducing CO2 levels?


10 posted on 10/18/2012 8:45:32 PM PDT by gunnut
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I have discovered a way to make bridges from sparrow farts. It takes a little while depending on the length of the fart and the bridge. Contact me with your bank data right away and we’ll work something out.


11 posted on 10/18/2012 8:46:02 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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Such a deal! Especially when you live in a place, like the UK, where they have unlimited, free electricity to such all this ‘petrol’ out of the air for free......


12 posted on 10/18/2012 8:46:51 PM PDT by RedElement
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British Engineers Produce Something Completely Impractical In The Real World.


15 posted on 10/18/2012 8:55:29 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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This is the kind of innovation that will attract the wrath of oil producers, but the petroleum industry would embrace because they can produce and sell it without being dependent on questionable governments. I am skeptical, but the process could work especially as a method of storing interrupted power sources such as wind and solar. I like the effects without consideration of the environment, and we need to push all possible methods.


16 posted on 10/18/2012 8:57:55 PM PDT by ghannonf18
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This is the kind of innovation that will attract the wrath of oil producers, but the petroleum industry would embrace because they can produce and sell it without being dependent on questionable governments. I am skeptical, but the process could work especially as a method of storing interrupted power sources such as wind and solar. I like the effects without consideration of the environment, and we need to push all possible methods.


17 posted on 10/18/2012 8:57:59 PM PDT by ghannonf18
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No thanks. I'll just keep my car that runs on sea water.
18 posted on 10/18/2012 8:58:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Yikes...Be really afraid, they’re going to go after huge sums of taxpayer money in subsidies.

Hopefully Obama will be long gone.


21 posted on 10/18/2012 9:01:02 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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It’s a lot easier to create “Petrol” from Coal
The Germans worked it out in WWII

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gasification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer-Tropsch_process
http://seekingalpha.com/article/850891-a-new-vision-the-potential-for-coal-gasification-and-coal-chemical-industry-development-in-mongolia


23 posted on 10/18/2012 9:04:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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I am really excited about carbon-neutral gasoline /sarc


25 posted on 10/18/2012 9:09:00 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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The technology, presented to a London engineering conference this week, removes carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. The “petrol from air” technology involves taking sodium hydroxide and mixing it with carbon dioxide before "electrolysing" the sodium carbonate that it produces to form pure carbon dioxide. Hydrogen is then produced by electrolysing water vapour captured with a dehumidifier.

The company, Air Fuel Syndication, then uses the carbon dioxide and hydrogen to produce methanol which in turn is passed through a gasoline fuel reactor, creating petrol.


The above process is seriously energy-intensive. From the first Law of Thermodynamics they're obviously not going to get the same energy out of the 'petrol' that they put into making it (duh), but reading the above I'm wondering just how bad the gap between energy-in and energy-out is for this. Might not even be the same order of magnitude.

I love how they put "electrolysing" in quotes like it's a made up term.
26 posted on 10/18/2012 9:09:42 PM PDT by verum ago (Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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hmmm, if the Brits decide to go through with this, I should buy stock in their electric companies!


28 posted on 10/18/2012 9:13:06 PM PDT by verum ago (Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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How much energy in for how much energy out?

Envirofascists never want to answer that question.

29 posted on 10/18/2012 9:13:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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That’s all fine but I have the true revolutionary fuel. There are these small round things made from nickel and copper. And you can make energy with NOTHING but electricity. You put electricity in them and they store it. Then you hook these things up to am electric motor and BAM you can propel your car with electricity!

I think I am going to apply to nObama for a billion dollar financing. I think I am going to call these things.... Batteries.... Yeah that sounds right...


30 posted on 10/18/2012 9:15:56 PM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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