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Was the attack on Benghazi an "October Surprise" gone bad?
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 19 October 2012 | Jeff Head

Posted on 10/19/2012 8:09:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The WH was expecting a hostage.

The fact they tied Obama to the hip of Jimmy Carter during the dem convention wasn't just a coincident, it was part of the preparation for the attack, just like the protest of the video in Egypt were part of the attack, it was a diversion.

In the immortal word of UBL to Mullah Omar “the news is 90% of the preparation for the battle”.

You want to know what happened, you got to look at the orchestrated news stories before the attack.

101 posted on 10/20/2012 4:54:57 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Jeff Head

Every single employee of us, We the People, in DC, if they participated in any part of this , needs walking papers and to be stripped of their pensions. Those coordinating this need to be in front of a judge. Period.


102 posted on 10/20/2012 5:00:09 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Agreed. A straight up attack is entirely plausible, without complexity of inept conspiracy. Leftists see total disarmament as sensible diplomatic policy, and deployment of force only acceptable during an attack.

That said, conspiracy to induce kidnapping is not rediculous. They’re stupid enough to try it, thinking it little more than theater.


103 posted on 10/20/2012 5:24:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Jeff Head

I would argue you are overthinking it.

The Lt Col who testified before Congress said that they attacked and drove out the Brits and others and ours was the last flag standing. The attack was a certainty. The question was when.

Then there is the Major Burns effect. Like Major Frank Burns, the bureaucrats in DC followed the book in the face of common sense indicating strong out of the book action was required. There was direct testimony naming names to that effect

The Congressional testimony is the closest thing to the truth we have available.


104 posted on 10/20/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bert
After watching the special last night,:

Death and Deceit in Benghazi - Full Youtube Video

I to agree.

But this still does not answer some criticl questions and I would put nothing past this crinla gang from Chicago.

105 posted on 10/20/2012 6:32:05 AM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Jeff Head
Based on what I saw in the Brett Baer special tonight ....I think we can discard "the attempted hostage gone bad"" theory.

Agreed. Jeff, the post you linked indicated no attempt at a live abduction. When they broke out the diesel after they couldn't get into the safe room, that theory died.

106 posted on 10/20/2012 9:22:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: DManA; Jeff Head

The facts on the table are so bad for Obama you really don’t need to stretch the narrative.


While that is true, remember that if Bush ever even APPEARED to possibly have stumbled, the lib media machine would ask the same kinds of questions on the front page above the fold and before the first commercial, ascribing the most devious, evil motives to what happened.

If the questions cannot be answered, they deserve to be asked. There are more lies from this administration just on this one issue than Nixon ever dreamed of telling.


107 posted on 10/20/2012 9:40:32 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: butterdezillion

We’ve got 90-year-old ladies having the choice between being scanned nude or having a rectal exam, just to get on an airplane.... and yet we “overlook” a 40-foot hole blown into the wall of our consulate in the most dangerous part of Libya?


Wow, do you have a way with words! How true.

I don’t believe Obama will show up Monday (or something really Big will happen before then), because they have to give Romney a few seconds to say something, and all he has to do is ask some questions like this. They can’t cut him off that fast.


108 posted on 10/20/2012 9:44:51 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Carry_Okie

I mostly agree. See my post 79.

However, from the narrative it is not apparent that the tangos knew that the Ambassador and others were in the safe room. They may have though that no one was left in the building and so they torched it.

We just do not know on that score.

If they knew they were in there and wanted to kill them, why not toss a couple of granades in there?

It copuld be they thought the Ambassador had already excaped and sop just burned the building.

On another note.
Watch this video of testimony exchange between the bureaucrats in Washington DC and the lead Security Officers on the ground in Libya. It is simply amazing...and shameful.

The lead security officer in all of Libya for the US Government sums it up be saying, when referring to his Washingto DC support managers whom he had to ask for additiona security that he felt like, “The Taliban is in the building.” Meaning in the US government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSpsL49pLPc


109 posted on 10/20/2012 10:03:24 AM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
This disaster in Benghazi reminds me in so many ways of the fall of Lima Station 85 in Laos, 1968. All warnings of impending doom ignored by higher-ups. Ambassador Sullivan refused to believe the mile high radar installation in danger of attack/capture. In fact it was attacked...and captured.

Sigonella AFB on Sicily is not that far from Benghazi. During Op Unified Protector (the bombing of Libya by NATO) there were aircraft parked bumper to bumper. Most have returned to their host countries but there are still NATO aircraft there. We have carriers in the Med. Sea. Yet these brave men died alone. Shocking. Disgraceful.

110 posted on 10/20/2012 10:25:02 AM PDT by donozark (I was a Vietnam Veteran before it was popular...)
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To: Jeff Head
It copuld be they thought the Ambassador had already excaped and sop just burned the building.

The piece says that they attempted to attack the safe room and could not penetrate it. So they had to know that it was a refuge and somebody was there. Hence, the conclusion that such a redoubt might not house the ambassador would be illogical. The shape of the hallway would have precluded the effectiveness of all but a gas grenade.

111 posted on 10/20/2012 10:37:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Jeff Head

I posted this with link and attribution elsewhere.

Great article.


112 posted on 10/20/2012 1:50:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Carry_Okie

Actuallyt, I thought the FoxNews special said simply that they tried to get in the door but were unable to.

It says clearly that teh special agent had a gun trained towards the terrorists should he need it...but he never fired. I believe they werre hunkered in back there and that the tangos tried to break in, but were unable.

I do not think they knew the ambassador was in there or they would have either brought in something ehavier to get the door down, tossed grenades (if it were their intent to kill him), or waite dlonger for more support. As it is, they simply burned the building.

It is not clear that they knew someone was in there from this report.

An interview with that Speical Agent would clear it up. One day he or some of the others will write a book...which I will most cetainly buy and read.


113 posted on 10/20/2012 9:42:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
I suspect the MSM will try to avoid, evade, ignore, postpone, in whatever way they can, but this is not going away, and it will only get worse.

This is just going to keep boiling over right on through the election, bleeding (D) votes all the way.

It would restore people's faith in our system were we to ever see justice done to our commie traitors, just once.

114 posted on 10/25/2012 2:56:48 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

There is a rancid stench of treason in the air...hanging over our nation.

An American Lament in 2012
http://www.jeffhead.com/lament.htm


115 posted on 10/25/2012 6:25:55 AM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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