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"He said Allahu Akbar” Survivors tell what Really Happened at Fort Hood
Right Scoop ^

Posted on 10/19/2012 11:27:20 PM PDT by TigerClaws

I had no idea this video would be so powerful before I started watching it. In fact at the moment I’m filled with anger after having heard the stories of those who survived, that Hasan is still alive 3 years after his ruthless massacre – but even more so that they are currently arguing in court whether he can keep his beard!

And then on top of that I’m reminded that this administration labeled this Islamic terrorist attack as “workplace violence” which means those who survived it are ineligible for the purple heart and the families of those who were killed do not get the same benefits of those who are killed in combat. This is outrageous!

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1 posted on 10/19/2012 11:27:25 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Bump


2 posted on 10/19/2012 11:34:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Obama isn’t going to let His Hero and Friend be Hurt or Damaged in any way.....


3 posted on 10/19/2012 11:37:30 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: TigerClaws
Obama has got to be defeated!!!!!!!
4 posted on 10/19/2012 11:39:02 PM PDT by funfan
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To: TigerClaws

Terror ping


5 posted on 10/19/2012 11:47:13 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: TigerClaws
The World is upside down. Why that bastard hasn't been tried and hung or put away for life is a complete mystery to me. I thought military Courts Martial proceedings moved quicker. Silly me.

Has anyone been following this and explain why it has taken so long for this Islamist murdering sh*thead has yet to go to trial? I really don't get it. What could possibly be that savage's defense? How many motions can be forwarded in a military court of law? Courts Martial used to make sure proceedings progressed quickly without a lot of nonsense. What's going on here?

6 posted on 10/19/2012 11:56:37 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: TigerClaws

HUSSEIN: I WILL STAND WITH THEM

7 posted on 10/19/2012 11:57:31 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: TigerClaws

That’s Ojibway for “I’m a disgruntled employee!” right?


8 posted on 10/19/2012 11:59:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Jet Jaguar

BTTT


9 posted on 10/20/2012 12:09:46 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: A Navy Vet

Even worse than this terrorist drawing breath, for the life of me I don’t understand why anyone at Club Gitmo is still alive.


10 posted on 10/20/2012 12:10:56 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: A Navy Vet

One reason that the court may have been interested in a slow-mo trial is because they may suspect that under Obama there is no way that true justice will ever be served.


11 posted on 10/20/2012 12:11:57 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I really hope this is on the list of the FIRST actions President Romney takes in office, once he is elected.

IMMEDIATE and thorough justice for this murdering snake!!


12 posted on 10/20/2012 1:01:47 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: TigerClaws

this administration labeled this Islamic terrorist attack as “workplace violence” which means those who survived it are ineligible for the purple heart

Are there no patriotic Congress critters left?
Some one needs to write a bill that would over rule the Admonistration covering for muslims and see that these heroes killd and wounded in an act of war are awrded whatever medals they deserve.


13 posted on 10/20/2012 1:19:01 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: LtKerst

Zer0 might even exercise his power to pardon to make his buddy, Louis Farrakhan happy. In this case he can give a pre-trial pardon thus sparing Nidal Malik Hasan the trouble of a trial.


14 posted on 10/20/2012 1:31:12 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: TigerClaws

Sorry to burst your bubble on the purple heart TigerClaws but the jehadist in this case was a member of the US Army... that alone is enough to deny the wounded a purple heart.


15 posted on 10/20/2012 1:55:59 AM PDT by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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To: DCBurgess58

Unfortunately, you’re correct. HAD this been labeled an “act of terror” by the Secretary of the Army, all military wounded or killed would be eligible.

Specifically:

a. The Purple Heart is awarded in the name of the President of the United States to any member of an Armed Force or any civilian national of the United States who, while serving under competent authority in any capacity with one of the U.S. Armed Services after 5 April 1917, has been wounded or killed, or who has died or may hereafter die after being wounded

(1) In any action against an enemy of the United States.

(2) In any action with an opposing armed force of a foreign country in which the Armed Forces of the United States are or have been engaged.

(3) While serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.

(4) As a result of an act of any such enemy of opposing armed forces.

(5) As the result of an act of any hostile foreign force.

(6) After 28 March 1973, as a result of an international terrorist attack against the United States or a foreign nation friendly to the United States, recognized as such an attack by the Secretary of the Army, or jointly by the Secretaries of the separate armed Services concerned if persons from more than one service are wounded in the attack.


16 posted on 10/20/2012 2:12:34 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Salgak; DCBurgess58

So why wouldn’t Clause #6 apply to this incident? I seem to recall elements of evidence concerning Hasan’s communication with al-Qaeda operatives outside the US. If that can be proven, then the only thing holding back a Purple Heart determination is pure politics. Hasan being a member of the USArmy would have no bearing because his entry to service would be under the color of treason due to collusion with an international terror organization.


17 posted on 10/20/2012 3:12:02 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

It would still require SecArmy to CALL it an international terrorist incident, NOT “workplace violence”. . .


18 posted on 10/20/2012 3:20:16 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: TigerClaws

The current occupant of the oval office doesn’t want to annoy his co-religionists by calling this what it is: murder in the name of the death cult.


19 posted on 10/20/2012 3:29:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Death cult: world-domination ideology cleverly disguised as a religion.)
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To: TigerClaws

I advise the “Allahu Akbar” was a “joke-gone-wrong” defense.


20 posted on 10/20/2012 4:11:19 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: TigerClaws

Whatever happened to replacing the word “terrorism” with “Man-Caused Disaster?”


21 posted on 10/20/2012 4:16:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: TigerClaws

How many times must we allow the media and these criminals to cover the piles of dog sh## they leave around?


22 posted on 10/20/2012 4:37:55 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: TigerClaws

Why aren’t all those military families & vets protesting & storming the WH?? This is beyond outrageous.


23 posted on 10/20/2012 4:52:04 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Spktyr; Travis McGee; Neil E. Wright
"One reason that the court may have been interested in a slow-mo trial is because they may suspect that under Obama there is no way that true justice will ever be served."

Maybe, but I doubt it. I tend to think that the Armed Services has been slowly politicized to a lessor commonsense civilian standard for years.

One of the things I was proud about while serving in our military (1975-1986) was the quick and mostly righteous judicial system. The UCMJ spelled out the parameters and if a service member didn't meet them, they were hauled before Captain's Mast (Navy for non-judicial punishment) or prosecuted by JAG with no delay. I miss my Navy of yesteryear.

I've lost respect for all our Armed Services general officers, except for the Marines. But I hear they are becoming more PC in their training and promotion of late.

At least the spec ops units are still maintaining the hardcore standards needed to fulfill their missions. Bless the SEALS, Marine Recon, Army Delta/Rangers, and Air Force ground combat controllers. Also thank the Coast Guard for the numerous lives they save every year. It's not a small feat to jump out of a helo into freezing stormy waters to save some dipshit from his ill-fated pleasure cruise.

Forgot to thank the most unacknowledged spec ops group - CIA non-official cover (NOC) agents. When a covert military man dies, he at least gets a military burial. When a CIA NOC agent dies in the line of duty, he only gets a star on a wall. Bad mouth the CIA all you want - I respect what they do. Contrary to popular opinion, they have kept our Country and people safe for decades, even with the occasionally missed event. With all their resources, they can't read minds...so some domestic or foreign dirt bag is going to succeed on occasion.

Also, kudos to the FBI for busting that wannabe jihad bomber of the Federal Reserve. The rank and file of the FBI also work hard to keep ours and THEIR children safe from scum. Yes, they are also politicized, but most are dedicated to our Country. However, I do think the that the FBI and especially local LEO's (especially SWAT teams), should have more strict/often psyche reviews. There are too many who get power mad in law enforcement.

And yes, I realize that the DHS and Justice Department is out of control and corrupt under the Napolitano and Holder watch. Another thread.

End rant.

24 posted on 10/20/2012 8:09:50 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
Courts Martial used to make sure proceedings progressed quickly without a lot of nonsense. What's going on here?

Were this your ordinary Courts-martial, you would be correct. However, *this* court-martial has extreme signifigance at the national level, and certain 'marching orders' were given at the outset that certain 'subjects' (for which read: jihad) were *NOT* to be broached. Thus, this case is a real mess.

The truth can in no ways be made public without defying the paramount superiority of civilian control of the military which has expressly forbidden the truth to be made public. This is a real mess...

the infowarrior

25 posted on 10/20/2012 8:28:23 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: TigerClaws

Hasan’s attorney’s have used one stall tactic after another. Plus, he has changed attorneys, which meant more time, of course. The beard thing has been a HUGE stall tactic. I am glad that the judge here has been so vigilant, though. It has just been ruled that Hasan can, indeed, be forcibly shaved. I was ready to see the judge get the show on the road one way or another; would have been glad to see the judge force Hasan into a burqua or Hannibal Lecter-type mask if the Army had ruled against shaving. Neither the judge nor anyone else in the courtroom should have to look at that animal’s facial hair. But hey, what’s a little disrespect to your fellow Army members when you’ve already murdered more than a dozen of them, plus a baby. Glad the judge did not cave in!!


26 posted on 10/20/2012 9:36:27 AM PDT by TXBlair (Don't stop at Hasan's beard; shave off his entire head.)
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To: TXBlair
"It has just been ruled that Hasan can, indeed, be forcibly shaved."

Didn't read about that. Good! The UCMJ has served the military well for a long time.

27 posted on 10/22/2012 6:47:15 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: T-Bird45
So why wouldn’t Clause #6 apply to this incident?

Sadly, it doesn't... Per Wikipedia's bio of Nidal Malik Hasan... "Born in Virginia to parents who moved to the United States from a Palestinian town near Jerusalem"

Maj Hasan is, by birthright, an American citizen and he conducted the attack by himself. It really doesn't matter that the attack was "blessed" by someone outside of the US. It was planned and carried out by one individual... and he is an American citizen.

As far as I am concerned, this points out two changes that need to be made. First of all we need to change the rules for purple hearts to include "blue on blue" attacks by those who would join our military and use that access for the purpose of a terrorist attack. Secondly, we need to virtually eliminate any path for residence and citizenship to those who come from countries which are unfriendly to the US.

28 posted on 10/25/2012 9:15:20 AM PDT by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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