Skip to comments.Diabetes Study Ends Early With a Surprising Result
Posted on 10/20/2012 10:35:47 AM PDT by Innovative
A large federal study of whether diet and weight loss can prevent heart attacks and strokes in overweight and obese people with Type 2 diabetes has ended two years ahead of schedule because the intensive program did not help.
About 25 million Americans have Type 2 diabetes. Many are overweight or obese. On average, the disease increases heart disease risk by 2 to 2 1/2 times, said Dr. Ronald Kahn, chief academic officer at the Joslin Diabetes Center in Boston.
Dr. Nathan, though, said the results meant that people with diabetes might have a choice. The group assigned to diet and exercise ended up with about the same levels of cholesterol, blood pressure and blood sugar as those in the control group, but the dieters used fewer medications.
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My FRiend, I can guarantee you, that those 90+ year olds didn’t have to “do” any exercize, because their life WAS full of exercise! We need to to exercise today because our lifestyles are sedentary compared to those of yesterday.
OK. How’d you do it? I am STARVED all the time; with winter coming and stress out the wazoo. How? I need to lose 25 or 30 lbs.
Yep. Somehow I think that the area of nutrition, diet, weight loss and health is not the medical community's forté.
I think the problem is that the human body tries to resist gradual change, so adapts to such schemes and adjusts for them.
Compare this to the radical approach to diabetes, in which, hospitalized for their own protection, diabetics were put on 600 calorie a day diets for eight weeks.
It was too fast for the body to adapt, so they shed a lot of weight quickly, including the fat that had been inhibiting their insulin production.
now THAT I will agree with.
All the seniors I have ever known were fairly active, doing things like gardening, crafts, carpentry, ect.
none of them sat around on their butts all day
But they weren’t running marathons, lifting weights, chewing on celery and carrots exclusively all day or had 1% body fat and a six pack.
Congratulations. Especially that young tot! Life changing aren’t they? Never thought you’d love something, someone that much huh? ;D!
Read the book, followed the diet.
To kick start the diet, I ate 200 calories of no-carb food every two hours, except for dinner. For dinner I ate medium portions of what everyone else was eating (except no dessert), and half a medium portion of the starchy food. I did this for two weeks to wean myself off sweets and starches, and to shrink my stomach. Then I went no-carb/high fat.
I've lost 35 pounds since June and I'm never hungry. I also eat very small portions, frequently. I'm munching on pepperoni as I type.
1) I was very motivated (long story)
2) I love to walk and live near a mall that's great for walking
3) I had a good amount of free time during that period.
1) Atkins.Strict Atkins.Much,much easier to stick with than I expected.There's a physiological reason for that which my doctor (who's on the staff of a major Boston hospital) explained to me.In short,it's because of all the protein you're eating.
2) Lots of walking,every day,"Power walking"...meaning almost running.At least 1 1/2 hours a day,usually 2.In good weather I walked outside,in bad weather I walked at the mall.
So,with all that it took me about 2 1/2 months to lose 20 pounds and another 1 1/2 months to lose the last 10.When finished I was just within the "normal" range for my BMI (27,IIRC).And I felt better than I had since graduating from Army basic training.
I totally agree about that book! It will scare you off carbs for life. I already had to give up gluten because I was diagnosed with celiac disease a year ago and I lost about 30 pounds from that alone. But I had stalled out and my diet was incredibly rich in starches.
I read Why We Get Fat and immediately stopped starches, greatly reduced my carbs, increased my fats and I lost 13 pounds in 5 weeks! That’s super fast for me. With the knowledge of that book, it’s no wonder this study didn’t work.
Get back to me in a couple years. Those people will be even fatter than before. Starvation diets only work on a temporary basis. A successful diet entails a PERMANENT change in behavior.
A friend of mine lost 60# and was freed of diabetes, too, and he had been on the pump.
Genetics is a powerful force in one’s health but we still have to exercise.
I also read this book. It is excellent. The real issue is not how much we eat, but what we eat. The carbs/sugars are killing us. I began a high fat/low carb diet 6 months ago. Now I weigh what I did in college. My lipids are excellent and my allergies vanished. It works.
People who are overweight also live longer... I’m surprised the liberal meme was trumped by reality. Guess some scientists are still honorable.
I think you are right. Just saw this article about type 3 diabetes(maybe) they are not sure yet.
The idea that Alzheimers might be Type 3 diabetes has been around since 2005, but the connection between poor diet and Alzheimers is becoming more convincing, as summarized in a cover story in New Scientist entitled Food for Thought: What You Eat May Be Killing Your Brain. (The graphic a chocolate brain with a huge piece missing is creepy. But for the record: chocolate is not the enemy.)
The studies  are increasingly persuasive, and unsurprising when you understand the role of insulin in the body. So, a brief lesson.
We all need insulin: in non-diabetics, its released to help cells take in the blood sugar (glucose) they need for energy. But the cells can hold only so much; excess sugar is first stored as glycogen, and when theres enough of that as fat. (Blood sugar doesnt come only from sugar, but from carbohydrates of all kinds; easily digested carbohydrates flood the bloodstream with sugar.) Insulin not only keeps the blood vessels that supply the brain healthy, it also encourages the brains neurons to absorb glucose, and allows those neurons to change and become stronger. Low insulin levels in the brain mean reduced brain function.
Importantly, this is not used as a diet, but was based on the idea that the islets of Langerhans that produced insulin were blocked by fat.
It had long been assumed that the islets were dead or had stopped producing insulin permanently. However, on this strict, acute starvation diet, once the fat was gone, the diabetes was reversed and they started producing insulin again.
And it is much harder to become morbidly obese if you have adequate supplies of insulin.
While I agree that a typical starvation diet won’t work and soon the people will regain the weight, this can now be said for two reasons: that the starvation diet wasn’t long enough, or strict enough.
That is, if they ate more than 600 calories a day, which they would typically do on a normal weight loss diet, and/or the diet just made them lose weight, not dissolve the fatty deposits blocking their Islets, their insulin levels would not increase, and so when they ate normally again, they would gain the weight back quickly.
So the scientists designed an eight week, 600 calorie a day diet as being fast enough and strict enough to do the trick.
That diabetic reversal weight loss is not just a function of eating less over an extended period of time, but that time itself is part of the equation.
Jack Lalanne died at 96. He did a lot of exercising.
oh I am sure that there are a few people who excercise and that are vegitarians who live long.
But the larger point is that. If those were the things that helped you live longer. The 90+ population would mostly consist of vegatarians and athletes, which just isn’t the case.
She followed his advice, lost a lot of weight and now is a much happier girl.
yes, plenty of that kind of thing can occur. also the stats are real interesting about people who get the flu after getting the flu shot vs those who get the flu that didn’t.
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