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Breaking: Fox News reports CIA command refused to help Benghazi consulate during attack
Hot Air ^ | 12:01 pm on October 26, 2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 10/26/2012 1:39:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yesterday, Leon Panetta told reporters that the US military didn’t intervene to assist our consulate in Benghazi during the attack because of a lack of real-time intelligence.  Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin now reports that the CIA got at least three requests for support from the annex in the city to help fend off the attack — and that the chain of command not only refused the requests, but ordered its personnel to “stand down.”  Two of the Americans killed in the terrorist attack disobeyed orders and attempted to rescue their fellow Americans:

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that three urgent requests from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack nearly seven hours later were denied by officials in the CIA chain of command — who also told the CIA operators to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were part of a small team who were at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When they heard the shots fired, they radioed to inform their higher-ups to tell them what they were hearing. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. An hour later, they called again to headquarters and were again told to “stand down.”

Woods, Doherty and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the Consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The quick reaction force from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the Consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

It’s not as if there was no resources to respond, either:

A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they too were told to stand down. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Specter gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.

Griffin’s sources tell her that the annex had painted a laser target at a terrorist mortar position and had called for an air strike.  I’m not sure what that looks like in Panetta’s world, but it at least sounds like real-time intelligence on the attack, as well as a clear target, if this report is correct.

Saxby Chambliss is right — this gets uglier every day.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdication; benghazi; obamatreason; panettatreason; treason
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1 posted on 10/26/2012 1:39:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Leon Panetta needs to resign.


2 posted on 10/26/2012 1:40:28 PM PDT by GOPJ ('TRUTH is the Enemy of Democrat Thuggishness: Spread it like Napalm!' w/apology to Eric Allen Bell)
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To: Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; SunkenCiv; Fred Nerks; onyx

Will try to look thru the comments at Hotairand see if anything else shows up.


3 posted on 10/26/2012 1:42:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It wasn't the CIA that refused, I believe those kinds of decisions are above their pay grade.

It was their commander in chief.

But I fully expect this administration to take full advantage of the CIA's obligation to stay quiet and try to pin any malfeasance on them.

4 posted on 10/26/2012 1:42:52 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“.....The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi’s fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.......”

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/50224


5 posted on 10/26/2012 1:43:32 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TigersEye
Griffin’s sources tell her thatthe annex had painted a laser target at a terrorist mortar position and had called for an air strike. I’m not sure what that looks like in Panetta’s world, but it at least sounds like real-time intelligence on the attack, as well as a clear target...

ping

6 posted on 10/26/2012 1:43:55 PM PDT by GOPJ ('TRUTH is the Enemy of Democrat Thuggishness: Spread it like Napalm!' w/apology to Eric Allen Bell)
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To: GOPJ
Leon Panetta needs to resign.

Resign, he should out on bail awaiting his criminal trial. Him and Hitlery both, and Obobo also! And the heads of the so called "News Media" should be arrested also!

7 posted on 10/26/2012 1:43:55 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is only “breaking news” on Fox. Went to AOL, MSN, CNN, MSNBC, you can’t even find the word Benghazi on the main pages. Pathetic.


8 posted on 10/26/2012 1:45:11 PM PDT by happilymarriedmom
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To: GOPJ
Panetta is NOT Now running the CIA. Patreus(sp?) is....this looks like Obama ordered both Panetta and Petratus to stand down.
9 posted on 10/26/2012 1:46:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why are there NO Democrats in Congress at all who are wanting to find out what happened?


10 posted on 10/26/2012 1:48:06 PM PDT by DOGHEAD
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To: timestax

11 posted on 10/26/2012 1:49:06 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: DOGHEAD

Who you asking?


12 posted on 10/26/2012 1:49:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: happilymarriedmom

Other than Fox News and the Right Radio commentators, there is no free press in the USA. The rest of these pathetic water-carriers for the Democrats ought to be boycotted and subject to every kind of approbrium.


13 posted on 10/26/2012 1:50:49 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The ambassador would be a skeleton in the closet the POTUS and SOS would not have wanted to linger around to some day tell the story.


14 posted on 10/26/2012 1:51:01 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This stinks to high heaven. Obama’s behavior all during, before and after was loopy. The guy they arrested about the “video”; what have they done with him? Of course, the “video” was a diversion meant to take the heat off Obama, you know, the guy who “killed Osama bin Laden and who lives in a bubble where Al Quaeda is ON THE RUN”. - If we cannot be shed of this phony on November 6, Lord help us!

I am SO damn mad about how Hillary, Obama and Biden behaved to the father of the boy who was killed at Benghazi trying to help rescue the people they’d left to die!! God, rid us of these fakes and phonies!


15 posted on 10/26/2012 1:52:51 PM PDT by Twinkie (PEOPLE ARE HURTING IN OBAMA'S ECONOMY . . .)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe I’ve watched too who done its, but could this have been a murder. Was the ambassador put in a place where he was likely to be killed because someone wanted to get rid of him?


16 posted on 10/26/2012 1:53:10 PM PDT by kathsua (A woman can do anything a man can do and have babies besides.)
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To: All
From the comments:

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There may have been confusion about what was overhead or the timing of overhead assets if the information was being passed through a serious of operations and command centers.

blink on October 26, 2012 at 3:45 PM

WHy the confusion? They had set up in a dangerous area that had been a war zone not long ago. The compound had already been threatened. They must have had a worked out protocol in case of an enemy attack. This wasn’t the consulate in Ottawa. I don’t buy it.

BoxHead1 on October 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

17 posted on 10/26/2012 1:53:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wanted to stress the fact that Woods and Doherty were FORMER Navy Seals working for the CIA.

In some reports and comments, Woods and Doherty’s actions are being construed and critiqued in the context of active military service. But they were not active military. They were FORMER military now employed by the CIA.


18 posted on 10/26/2012 1:54:54 PM PDT by randita
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To: kathsua

“....Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the ambassador wanted to be present to launch the Libyan rescuer’s new school....”

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/50224


19 posted on 10/26/2012 1:55:37 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks very much.

Be sure to watch Bret Baier’s News which airs here at 5:00PM Central.


20 posted on 10/26/2012 1:57:42 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: GOPJ

Why would he have lased the target unless he expected an incoming round/missile/Specter Gunship,,, if he/they were under duress/attack, you would not take the time to expose yourself or your position by continuously lasing a target.

just my opinion..


21 posted on 10/26/2012 2:00:44 PM PDT by Airwinger ( A Militia Of One)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The question we really should be asking is “why”. I read a few weeks ago that this “attack” was a staged kidnapping to take the embassador hostage and later trade him for the Blind Sheik. I assumed this theory was just speculation but the more we find out what really happened, the more plausible it becomes. Perhaps that theory is why they were made to stand down. Perhaps they knew too much about something (like the missing weapons) and their deaths would silence them. If either is true, impeachement is too good for them.


22 posted on 10/26/2012 2:00:55 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Marine_Uncle; kathsua; TigersEye; Cincinatus' Wife; GOPJ
OK,....More from the comments....and a VERY interesting point.:

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No. The order was to stand down from a rescue mission to another location. The CIA annex at that point was not under attack. Disagree with it, but let’s keep our facts straight.

GWB on October 26, 2012 at 3:32 PM

My facts are fine.
The Stand down order would have sealed the fate of those at the Consulate. Those were the people who, at that time, were fighting for their lives. Whether the denied request came from the Consulate or the Annex is immaterial. In fact, I am pretty sure that the Consulate would have had some way to contact the Annex. The call for help probably originated AT the Consulate.In that case the stand down order was denying a Consulate request. Somebody who was capable to help the Ambassador was being told NOT TO !!

Jabberwock on October 26, 2012 at 3:57 PM

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And we know those at the Annex heard the alarm from the Consulate.

23 posted on 10/26/2012 2:01:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: happilymarriedmom

Well the MSM is always waiting for the cue from Obama.


24 posted on 10/26/2012 2:03:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Has anyone in the media spoken to any of the 30+ people whose lives were spared because of the heroic acts of these Seals? An airplane ticket to Germany and then interview them all. Let us find out more.


25 posted on 10/26/2012 2:05:02 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bad link.


26 posted on 10/26/2012 2:05:42 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: GOPJ
"Leon Panetta needs to resign."

Nah, he'll just take responsibility and that'll be the end of it.

27 posted on 10/26/2012 2:05:58 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: skeeter

Regretfully I remind you that Petreaus came out and stated categorically that this event was sparked by a video. I hope there is a more aceptible explaination than what it appears.


28 posted on 10/26/2012 2:07:49 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: randita; Marine_Uncle
As I recall they were working for a UK outfit with name of Blue mountain who was under contract to the State Dept I think.

But the Annex was a CIA listening post as I understand it....so I presume there were CIA personnel there I would think.

29 posted on 10/26/2012 2:10:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I would like to know, would the entire situation take on a different slant IF there was NO CONSULATE AT BENGHAZI?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2950610/posts?page=30#30

http://usembassy.gov/


30 posted on 10/26/2012 2:10:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"But the Annex was a CIA listening post as I understand it....so I presume there were CIA personnel there I would think."
I believe your understanding is correct.
31 posted on 10/26/2012 2:12:11 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: All

As I remember when this all happened we had a thread that was lamenting about how huge the loss of that annex was to the CIA.....might be hard to find.


32 posted on 10/26/2012 2:13:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Fred Nerks

No. That makes it even worse. Something no good was going on in Benghazi and Obama is chest deep in it! It’s one more component of Obamas treason.


33 posted on 10/26/2012 2:13:06 PM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Color me stupid, but things still don’t seem to add up.

What was the objective of the attackers?

45 days after the incident and no clear objective appears to be stated.

Terrorism?
In-your-face rebellion to the US?
A thousand Osama bin Ladens in a 9/11 re-enactment?
Kill a homosexual ambassador?
Interrupt ongoing business of the Ambassador?
Eliminate a knowledgeable source?
By direction of others to give Obama an October Surprise?
Kidnap the Ambassador?
Sucker others into the compound, having never been about the Ambassador?

Why attack the Annex 4-6hrs after the Residence?
Seemed to be preplanned fires.
If they attacked it, why didn’t they finish it when the Annex was unsupported by others than the Tripoli reaction team?
Did they confuse the ex-SEAL action as a rescue of the Ambassador, thinking he was now in the Annex, they began an assault on the Annex, only to later find out he was elsewhere, then ceased fire?
Why did they cease fire?

Were the attackers a different hand of a Black Op?

The attackers swing from a handful of elite tacticians to a gaggle of several platoons of pseudo political militant gun toting mobs without leadership. Elements of the attack are premeditated and well equipped. Others are oafish.


34 posted on 10/26/2012 2:14:35 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Some quarters continue to use the term “Consulate” for that CIA operations house. At best, the DOS would correctly identify it as a “mission”. I wish Fox and others would get their facts straight.


35 posted on 10/26/2012 2:18:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: All
Consider this as a researching thread.....

Searching the FR Archives for threads of interest....found this one.:

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Al Qaeda Flag Hoisted Over Benghazi, Libya! ^

10/31/2011 10:34:57 PM PDT · by Reaganite Republican

36 posted on 10/26/2012 2:19:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: uncitizen

By ‘different slant’ I certainly didn’t mean to suggest an improvement. We keep hearing ‘ambassador’ and ‘consulate’ - but it begins to look as if the compound premises were attached to a weapons storage facility, wasn’t a consulate, and the ambassador was not doing what one might expect an ambassador to be doing...


37 posted on 10/26/2012 2:22:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Cvengr; Marine_Uncle; navysealdad
Just found this:

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Libya lawmaker says Benghazi attack planned ^

09/16/2012 7:08:53 AM PDT · by navysealdad

38 posted on 10/26/2012 2:22:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet
And another thread reporting the event:

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US official dies in Libya consulate attack in Benghazi ^

09/11/2012 7:07:24 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet

39 posted on 10/26/2012 2:26:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The web increases in size.


40 posted on 10/26/2012 2:28:31 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: All; nuconvert
And:

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Statement on the Death of American Personnel in Benghazi, Libya ^

09/12/2012 5:04:07 AM PDT · by nuconvert

41 posted on 10/26/2012 2:29:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Waiting for some honorable congressman to introduce a bill of impeachment for Obama, Clinton, and Panetta.

42 posted on 10/26/2012 2:30:08 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: Marine_Uncle; 2ndDivisionVet
My fault?

Another thread:

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Official: No Marines in Libya at time of Benghazi attack ^

09/15/2012 1:46:37 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet

43 posted on 10/26/2012 2:31:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All; barryobi
More:

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Libya closes Benghazi airport after Islamists fire at U.S. drones ^

09/14/2012 10:42:12 AM PDT · by barryobi

44 posted on 10/26/2012 2:34:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All; tobyhill
MORE

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A Benghazi power, Libya militia eyed in attack (Al Qaeda with a different name) ^

09/18/2012 3:28:22 PM PDT · by tobyhill ·

45 posted on 10/26/2012 2:36:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All; opentalk
More:

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The Libya Debacle - The more we learn, the more Benghazi looks like a gross security failure.. ^

09/27/2012 1:34:54 PM PDT · by opentalk

46 posted on 10/26/2012 2:38:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All; mgist
Might as well add this one:

Libya Cover-Up: Hillary Clinton Throws Obama Under His Own Benghazi Bus ^

10/15/2012 7:09:34 PM PDT · by 10/15/2012 7:09:34 PM PDT · by mgist

47 posted on 10/26/2012 2:40:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

Time for the GOP to start Impeachment proceedings for the entire administration....NOW.

I don’t care whether Obama is re-elected or not....time to impeach him NOW...at least it puts on record that any Dems (and GOP) that block the impeachment support what happened in Libya, and the Obama Admin lies

Its time for the GOP to grab its manhood...stop acting like they have been acting on Illegal Aliens, Obama Eligibility, and cutting taxes...and get impeaching


48 posted on 10/26/2012 2:41:30 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; thouworm

BREAKING: HELP DENIED WHEN REQUESTED IN REAL TIME!!!
FoxNews ^ | October 26,2012 | Jennifer Griffin

Posted on Saturday, 27 October 2012 2:15:27 AM by Protect the Bill of Rights

Those in the CIA Annex requested permission to aid the consulate. Were told to stand down at least twice. Went anyway after being told to stand down the second time


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950576/posts


49 posted on 10/26/2012 2:41:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks E.. I’ll view the corrected link as well as the other three you posted in this post. Time for din din on the east coast. Pizza anyone...


50 posted on 10/26/2012 2:42:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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