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BOMBSHELL: US Troops Wouldn't Have Been Painting Targets on Ground Unless There Was Air Support..
Gateway Pundit ^ | October 26, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/26/2012 6:30:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

BOMBSHELL: US troops in Benghazi would not have been painting targets on the ground unless there was air support overhead. But someone called it off – And the decision most likely came from the White House.

FOX News reported earlier today that security officers on the ground in Benghazi had a laser planted on a target that was firing on the annex.

The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

So there were two drones in the air recording the attack on the ground. And now we know the CIA team at the annex was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. The White House was able to watch the attack live back in Washington DC. Yet, yesterday Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said this,

“The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over.”

How much more information did they need?

* * * * *

Then there’s this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:

Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.

If that SEAL was actively “painting” a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!

This is HUGE. It should be obvious by now that someone is not telling the truth. As Blackfive says,

“This is bigger than Watergate!… The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.“

A caller today discussed this with Rush Limbaugh.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

Here is part of that conversation.

CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, it’s like an IM. I mean, it’s immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So it’s immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then there’s a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, “This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this,” and that’s what would have happened.

So no one in the White House can deny that — well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, “Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril.” And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, “I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes.” And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didn’t need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?

I’m giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, that’s when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So there’s always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.

Read the rest here. Hat Tip Truth and Common Sense


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdication; benghazi; benghazigate; cas; derelictionofduty; libya; muslimbrotherhood; obama; obama4alqaeda; obama4terrorists; obamaabdication; obamatreason; obamavsamerica; shadowwars; standdown; threatmatrix; traitorinchief; treason; waronterror
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

sent you a freepmail


141 posted on 10/26/2012 8:52:41 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Jemian
One other thing is that just because you are using a laser doesn't mean you are designating a target for delivery. More often these days you are using a laser to generate a set of coordinate for GPS guided JDAM or to cue for a laser spot tracker on a platform and then they lase for themselves. Ground based lasing is kind of a last resort due to the negative effect of any vertical development of the target.

What this guy is saying is that you never lase until there is air support over the target so you can coordinate the proper code. If you were guiding an air dropped weapon yourself then yes, you do need to enter the proper code for each weapon. This doesn't support the existence of a Spectre over the target because I don't recall that platform doesn't carry any weapons that would require laser guidance.

142 posted on 10/26/2012 8:54:30 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where the Fluike is MIttens’ response?!!!!!


143 posted on 10/26/2012 8:54:36 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (St.Peter:"Upon this rock, I will build my church" 0:"If you've got a church, you didn't build that!")
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To: wintertime

Well said!


144 posted on 10/26/2012 8:54:57 PM PDT by TBall
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To: USNBandit

How likely is it that the Predator would have hellfires that could have hit the target?

That information should be easy enough to find out, shouldn’t it? If Congress investigated they should know this quickly, shouldn’t they?


145 posted on 10/26/2012 8:59:37 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Actually, he’s probably doing the smart thing: Let Obama stew in his own juices. If Mitt chimes in, it looks “political” to the low-information voters.


146 posted on 10/26/2012 8:59:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I KNEW Panetta and Petraeus were lying through their teeth when I saw them on Thursday. I did not actually HEAR Petraeus SAY anything, as I couldn’t watch the entire briefing. Panetta may have been the Designated Liar for both of them. But the expression on Petraeus’ puss was all I NEEDED to see. As guilty a Bonnie and Clyde!


147 posted on 10/26/2012 9:02:27 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Fractal Trader

bump


148 posted on 10/26/2012 9:03:01 PM PDT by cyn
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To: tophat9000
This is why the story is crumbly... this is why it is leaking out so fast...this was so outrageous.. up and down the line people are piss off.. the military, the CIA, the mid level state, everybody...it's going to break open like a dam

As long as it is sooner than 9 days...
149 posted on 10/26/2012 9:05:04 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: plain talk

‘I want Obama gone.’

Right behind ya.
Excellent plain words, from Plain Talk.


150 posted on 10/26/2012 9:07:11 PM PDT by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: wintertime

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html

Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus By Kristol


151 posted on 10/26/2012 9:09:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: piasa

Thanks for the information about the hospital. I hadn’t heard about that possibility before.


152 posted on 10/26/2012 9:09:40 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Tenega

That does not explain all of the lies.

Two drones were overhead.

Those things are armed.

One missile would have eliminated the mortar position.

There is something big big big behind this.

Maybe arming militia to fight Syria, maybe something else.

I think something much more.


153 posted on 10/26/2012 9:14:46 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Steely Tom
"Whoever gave the order to not engage made a choice and decided that the lives of four Americans were not worth as much as something else. I wonder what it was."

After all the info coming out about this attack on American soil, I agree that there is something more to this, and I am not a conspiracy type. As the facts come out, it is becoming clear that someone decided not to scrambled US forces to secure our sovereign territory. The CIA operatives; SpecOp guys; and gunships were ready to go as I read the latest reports. However, they were told to "stand down".

I've read that only the President can authorized intrusion on foreign soil (Obama's Libya bombing notwithstanding). However, this was not foreign soil. It was USA sovereign ground. That is what an embassy/consulate is about and as has been long recognized by the world of civilized nations.

This is growing and people will go down over this. Unfortunately, it will be lower politicos who take the fall, when it should be the top. We know who they are.

154 posted on 10/26/2012 9:20:34 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: rainee
I just watched/heard that too..also, Issa said they’re getting all this info from whistleblowers? I got the feeling that they have more but are going to trickle it out. But, how much worse can it get?? & I’m still hearing nothing but crickets from the disgusting LSM.

Did you hear Issa at the end of Hannity, when Hannity asked if there was any way he could get the audio or videos to show on the program? Issa said if someone leaked them to him. Issa was almost begging someone to leak these things to him. It was hard to hear because Hannity stated talking.

155 posted on 10/26/2012 9:23:58 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: butterdezillion

It was reported that the Predator was unarmed, but who knows what was really the case.


156 posted on 10/26/2012 9:32:51 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Fai Mao

Not incompetent, newbie! DELIBERATE!


157 posted on 10/26/2012 9:35:40 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights."

I've read that someone "painted the target", but have not read that it is verified. If that occurred, like the poster says above, the "painter" knew of a potential air strike or wouldn't have bothered. I wonder what he knew via comms.

If I was still military, I would risk everything to spill all. I wouldn't care if I wound up drying cars at a carwash. I would have my integrity in tact and live my life out as an honorable man. More need to come forward.

If any military of other civilian operatives are reading this, it's your time to stand up. You can stay in fear of the system or make a difference for your fallen mates. Protect your pension or do the right thing. Sheesh, guys/gals. You have no idea how many would support you, even financially. And if not enough, then wash some dishes and be able to look at yourself in the mirror.

158 posted on 10/26/2012 9:35:58 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Best case scenario: Obama doesn’t and hasn’t cared about the responsibility of POTUS in the last 6+ months and ignored it.

Worst case scenario: Obama allowed this to happen in hopes of getting the people who tired to kill/killed the staff for his campaign purposes.


159 posted on 10/26/2012 9:55:36 PM PDT by matt04
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To: xkaydet65

Isn’t it possible Woods was lighting up the mortar site in an attempt to scare the ragheads off the mortar. He knew eventually they would calibrate correctly if not forced to move.

Tyrone Wood deserves a Medal of Honor. Obama, a dishonorable discharge and a yellow stripe painted down the back of his Armani suit.


160 posted on 10/26/2012 9:56:22 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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