Skip to comments.How should Christians vote on November 6th?
Posted on 10/29/2012 7:41:14 PM PDT by billflax
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Well done, and an excellent answer.
Worth a repost:
Well thought out and well and concisely put. Pulls it all together on the question.
I know and care little about the nuances of what defines a Christian, Mormons consider themselves Christians whether anyone else does or not but as I understand it the main problem people have with the Mormons is they are non-trinitarians.
We’ve had a few Unitarian Presidents, like Taft (who flat out said said as you know “I don’t believe in the divinity of Christ”). Looking it up they say both Adams’ and Fillmore were also Unitarians.
Taft, the last one, was one of the better men elected President in the 20th. So him not being a Christian (in the eyes of many) had nothing to do with anything.
I’d be happy to vote for a conservative Jew, Hindu, atheist, or weirdo pagan (we have a guy running for congress in NYC). Most Mormon Republicans are to Romney’s right, I’d be happy to vote for Jason Chaffetz for example.
Obama’s official religion (I think he’s an atheist not a Muslim, I have never bought that) is Rev Wrong’s Black power “Christianity” which a lot further from mainstream Christianity than Mormons in my opinion.
As for “vying”, yeah, Obama will get crushed. Except among non-White evangelicals.
I would love to do that, but unfortunately, here in Illinois, the State Board of Elections took him off the ballot after some theatrics with an objector. The only remaining candidates are the R and the D, plus Gary Johnson (Libertarian), and Jill Stein (Green). And you can't write in a candidate unless the candidate has filed "write-in" papers. No Micky Mouses or Donald Ducks allowed here. Aren't we special. Ugh!
and live with helping the muslim become the dictator of our country.
You are, obviously, so much wiser and more knowledgeable than Billy Graham.
see my tag line, oh holy, omnipotent one.
What to do, what to do. A gay communist muslim against a mormon. I can’t make up my mind.
Oh fiddle. I’ll go for the guy who doesn’t hate America.
aren't hate and pride listed as sins in the Bible?
You sound like you need a stiff drink.
You sound like a poor lost soul.
No one in this world has enough time to work on their own soul AND spend as much time as you do on tearing down others.
Time to wipe the froth off and go to bed
There is every appearance the poster of seven posts thus far, has an obsession.
Your replies were on target.
Alas, FRiend... They run to their prophets with itching ears... Thanks for standing when it is hard to stand.
Then go ahead and vote for O if his ‘Christianity’ is so enticing
I, as a Catholic Christian, will take the “cult” over Communism.
Name a single president who has lived up to your definition of Christianity. I get so tired of this...Ford was divorced and drank. Reagan was divorced. The Bushes are certainly not part of any conservative church.
Our elected officials are human. We are not voting in our church officials. There are those who will never vote for a Roman Catholic for they think that religion is completely of Satan.
the arguments get ridiculous. I would rather have a Penn Gillett in my corner than a Barack Obama or Bill Ayers
I am voting for president. There is a committed marxist who has (at a minimum) muslim leanings in the WH. I know what a second tem of O looks like. I find it in my self interest and the interest of my country (and my faith) to make sure that O does NOT have a second term.
I do not need a lecture from anyone
That video reduces the Christian’s voting criteria to three principles, life, marriage, and freedom. And it is true that the right to life is not negotiable, that marriage should not be redefined, and that freedom is essential to our success as a people and our prosperity as individuals.
But freedom is not simply a path to prosperity. Freedom is essential to the life of a Christian nation because we must be free to serve God, to worship him according to the dictates of Scripture and conscience. Freedom is not something we as Christians are permitted to waste on merely ourselves. From the founding those who came here for religious freedom did not do so because of jobs or economy or some vague notion of a pluralistic utopia of religious diversity. They came here because their oppressors in England were interfering with their duty to serve and honor God. This sense of duty was strong enough to push them to forsake their homeland, risking everything, even death, in pursuit of the high calling of Christian freedom.
Is that the same kind of freedom portrayed in that video? The music and the images were stirring, but it breaks my heart to see the meaning and use of freedom so diminished that we would ever consider a rejector of the true God, a competitor to the true God, a purveyor of a false Gospel, a teacher of antichrist doctrine, the new champion of Christian freedom.
Are we mere materialists after all? When Christians vote, should we reject the Holy Spirit’s written guidance to have nothing to do with such false teachers, just so we can have a better life in this world? How is that not like Esau trading his birthright for a bowl of venison stew?
Our birthright, as Americans, is to live as a free people, empowered by God to serve the true and living God according to the best light we have. If we abuse our freedom, use it to protect our own interests over God’s honor, why should we expect God’s help in maintaining that freedom? Esau thought he was going to die if he didn’t get that meal. And for his choice, what did he get at the end? God set His blessing on another. It would never return to Esau, no matter how he wept over his mistake.
I don’t think that Christians, in general, believe they’re voting for pastor. However, I imagine that everyone has ethical/moral standards they check off in their minds regarding the candidates in any race, given that they know them. For Christians those would be classic Judeo-Christian standards.
However, there are non-negotiables, such as believing in the sacredness of life.
I will not, on the other hand, vote in a satanist, ba’alist, islamic, hindu, etc. I just wouldn’t. I would know instantly that their ethical/moral standards were automatically totally foreign to my own.
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