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FEMA Out of Water, No Delivery Until Monday
Breitbart ^ | Nov 3, 2012 | Michael Patrick Leahy

Posted on 11/03/2012 11:03:16 AM PDT by blueyon

FEMA's vaunted "lean forward" strategy that called for advanced staging of supplies for emergency distribution failed to live up to its billing in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Sandy.

In fact, the agency appears to have been completely unprepared to distribute bottled water to Hurricane Sandy victims when the storm hit this Monday. In contrast to its stated policy, FEMA failed to have any meaningful supplies of bottled water -- or any other supplies, for that matter -- stored in nearby facilities as it had proclaimed it would on its website. This was the case despite several days advance warning of the impending storm.

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To: blueyon

151 posted on 11/03/2012 1:30:37 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I know what it is to be Black,to be hated for who I am, more so than Whoppi does. I'm a Republican.)
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To: txhurl
Oh, so mankind DID invent desalinization/purification machines!?!? /s

Yep. The Army even has mobile field laundry/shower units.

We also have the Salvation Army, which maintains mobile kitchen and supply units for disasters

And has been on the ground with their disaster relief units

152 posted on 11/03/2012 1:32:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: cardinal4
You know, FEMA appears to just suck no matter who is office..

Which is why I'm saying it should be mostly disbanded and the job mostly given to the Army and National Guard.

153 posted on 11/03/2012 1:34:39 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: PapaBear3625
Which is why I'm saying it should be mostly disbanded and the job mostly given to the Army and National Guard.

Yep. They are used to large-scale planning and logistics into difficult terrain and situations. Like a region that just got hit by a hurricane.

154 posted on 11/03/2012 1:36:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PapaBear3625

How much is the FEMA budget that they don’t have MRE’s and water on hand?


155 posted on 11/03/2012 1:37:08 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: count-your-change

Received three calls Thursday from people claiming to be with government agencies wanting to know if our company wanted to be put on list to submit bids. First time ever in more than 20 years. Told last caller that the government would be the last group I would ever want to do business with.


156 posted on 11/03/2012 1:44:12 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
The first case of Cholera will be reported before the election.

I agree. This is the reason they should be working on evacuation now until some semblance of power and clean water distribution is restored. I think it is too late.
157 posted on 11/03/2012 1:47:07 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: blueyon

Why don’t they use an aircraft carrier like they did for the tsunami? Instant desalination plant.


158 posted on 11/03/2012 1:47:15 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: blueyon
FEMA, like every Federal agency, is obsessed with "proposals," "soliciting bids," and catering to demands of other bureaucrats --- all of which can't work in a crisis.
Spare me the "there are federal laws..." "Union rules" blah blah blah rationalizations.
That's BULLSHIT*

Can't there be competitive "standing proposals" that are in place at all times?

Why does there need to be "solicitation of bids" to distribute emergency supplies when the emergency is ongoing?

No bureaucracy has ever heard of Volunteer Organizations? Why does the Salvation Army get to unexpected disaster areas before any meaningful Federal, State or local government help? Bureaucratic incompetence is the only possible explanation.

Municipal, County and City governments are not immune. What excuse is there to have 40 emergency shelters existing, but only 2 open when people are out in the elements without shelter?

There are always the clueless who contribute to their own demise, but in a regional disaster, the majority of people, with no options, who find themselves literally with no place to go for emergency shelter and minimal water and food can be overwhelming. We're talking subsistance level here, and most normal citizens would be grateful, if not completely happy. Unlike... but I digress; How many of us can afford to find a hotel at a moment's notice, even at $100 a night for weeks or months? I know I can't, and my needs are modest in the extreme.

Why can't this culture of "public service" incompetence never change? Gheeez!

* “Both the liar and the honest man must have regard for truth, the former to subvert it and the latter to propagate it. Bullshit, by contrast, is fundamentally unconcerned with truth or falsehood, but only with appearance, effect and persuasion, however transitory. Yuri Luzhkov was not accusing the Moscow weather forecasters of lying, or yet of trying to predict the weather and honestly failing; he was accusing them of not caring about the true weather. The essence of bullshit is getting away with it, with persuading listeners or readers of a sincerity that is, by definition, phoney. The bullshit artist simply does not care about truth: “He pays no attention to it at all,” writes Professor Frankfurt. “By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of truth than lies are.”

*Bullshit

159 posted on 11/03/2012 1:48:45 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: GeronL

Check out this glowing article from NPR:

http://www.opb.org/news/article/npr-lessons-from-katrina-boost-femas-sandy-response/

FEMA had hundreds of thousands of liters of bottled water, along with millions of meals, cots and blankets stockpiled, which were moved into the region ahead of Sandy.


Hundreds of thousands of liters. That’s diddly squat for a region with a population of tens of millions. Yet these idiots think that was proactive.


160 posted on 11/03/2012 1:50:16 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: blueyon

So FEMA is out of water for Hurricane Sandy victims until Monday, and yet the MSM chastised Romney for collecting water, food and clothes. Exactly when will the media realize their stupidity is actually hurting the American people?


161 posted on 11/03/2012 1:51:07 PM PDT by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: dirtboy
Yep. They are used to large-scale planning and logistics into difficult terrain and situations. Like a region that just got hit by a hurricane.

Plus it would be valuable and realistic training for the logistics and support units: "go to location X, and set up mobile water purification, field kitchen, etc. Let's see how fast you can get there and be ready to feed and give water to people".

Plus a week-long inside-US cross-country deployment would test the soldiers child-care arrangements, which always seems to result in a bunch of troops (mostly single moms) declaring they are unable to go whenever a sudden overseas deployment is called.

162 posted on 11/03/2012 1:51:29 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: PA Engineer

Amen!
LLS


163 posted on 11/03/2012 1:52:32 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: blueyon

The hated Wal-Mart (at least in the liberal bastions of the Northeast) would have had plenty of bottled water and other supplies on hand for the storm. But no!


164 posted on 11/03/2012 1:54:22 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: LibLieSlayer

I’m thinking typhus, not cholera. Not down the shore but in NYC.

Fed gov really doesn’t know what it’s doing, even in REactive mode, never mind PROactive.

I pray that people in neighboring states who can do so, will drive over there with a few jerries of fuel, some water and blankets, diapers and formula, batteries and some basic chow. They’re 100 per cent certain to find someone grateful beyond words to express.

Take it from me, I’ve been there, lost everything, plus three close family members, in a catastrophe: the government doesn’t make it better, they make it worse. Insofar as anything takes away an iota of anguish, it’s not an official, it’s an individual who doesn’t know you, didn’t have to come, doesn’t expect a reward or a refund - but who showed up and did what he could - that’s what Heaven sends to the afflicted.


165 posted on 11/03/2012 1:56:36 PM PDT by HomeAtLast (Please proceed, Governor. To the White House.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Where’s Geraldo? Where’s Shep? Fox News had no problem at all with them being on-hand reporting the misery during Katrina. Surely they ought to be out in Staten Island or somewhere near to bring the real truth of what’s happening in those areas.


166 posted on 11/03/2012 2:06:45 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: GeronL

I live near I-95 in MD. I bet I’ve seen 20 semi’s loaded with commercial generators heading north in the last week. To deploy only 4 is un-thnkable, but perfectly acceptable to a liberal bureauocrat


167 posted on 11/03/2012 2:07:15 PM PDT by cyclotic ( Obama's golden halo is really just a rusted hubcap)
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To: Mean Maryjean
Where’s Geraldo?

Desperately searching for a generator so the fish in his koi pond don't die.

I'm not kidding.

168 posted on 11/03/2012 2:10:55 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: blueyon

Earllier today, I posted this reply on another thread. It is even more appropriate for your thread.

We have friends and relatives with friends/relatives, who survived Sandy. They started getting into contact with those living in the Post Sandy areas recently.

Like many heavy duty storms, people a couple of miles away from each other have totally different realities.

Some had minor flooding or car damage, others have lost their homes, can’t get into their homes. Many are out of food, water, dry clothes and gas for their vehicles or generators.

Some areas are out of control with mobs looting and survivors looking for food/water and shelter. After dark some in that area are hearing shouts and shots being fired near their damaged homes.

One lady has friends and relatives on both sides suffering from severe disaster or no problem. However, some who thought they were okay are now running into problems. One of her uncles is very well off. His beach area house now has severe water in the basement and there is no electricity to run the sump pumps. His small yacht in the same area is okay and undamaged. They have a large home,they live in away from the shore, and they have had no power since Sandy hit. He had generators which are now out of gasoline, and he has siphoned the gas from his small collection of cars and trucks. Now, the sump pumps in that home aren’t working and water is seeping in their big basement a few inches each hour. Their food drinking water supply is running out as they became an emergency shelter for grown children and grand kids.

This may end up with Katrina looking like a medium size disaster versus a king size disaster from Sandy.


169 posted on 11/03/2012 2:11:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: cyclotic

Yep.

I totally agree.


170 posted on 11/03/2012 2:13:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: HomeAtLast

I have been through every major hurricane since Betsy in 1965. I know the pain and loss that you speak of... Katrina took three homes from my family... and two businesses. I had three families living with us afterwards. I will send help in donations as soon as the fog clears. GOD bless the good people that help now!

LLS


171 posted on 11/03/2012 2:13:20 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: dirtboy

They would have been better off staging water purification machines like the military uses.

I guess its not as good for photo-ops


172 posted on 11/03/2012 2:14:21 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mean Maryjean

neil Cavuto has been on both Fox News and the Fox Business Channel with superb reporting.

He has the power and influence to muster the FoxNews troops and send them for indepth coverage of the disaster that is Staten island. his report yesterday afternoon lasted a full hour

Shep was determined to be not mentally suitable to handle the rigor and stress of disaster reporting from the field. the real men at fox are out there telling it like it is.


173 posted on 11/03/2012 2:16:25 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: blueyon

Gee, imagine if this had been a Cat 5 hurricane.

Obama’s Katrina!


174 posted on 11/03/2012 2:16:35 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: SamAdams76

“The hated Wal-Mart (at least in the liberal bastions of the Northeast) would have had plenty of bottled water and other supplies on hand for the storm. But no!”

The boutique loving lefties hate Walmart, Home Depot and Lowes.

So when disaster strikes and there is no Walmart, Home Depot or Lowes, they suffer a lot worse than we country bumpkins with several Walmarts, Home Depots and Lowes in a close radius from our homes.


175 posted on 11/03/2012 2:16:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: blueyon
I'm sure the state contolled media will be all over this, just like Benghazi.

I crack me up.

5.56mm

176 posted on 11/03/2012 2:18:36 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
contolled=controlled

Spell check is your friend.

5.56mm

177 posted on 11/03/2012 2:19:39 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: GeronL

“How much is the FEMA budget that they don’t have MRE’s and water on hand?”

I guess they spent all their money on millions of rounds of ammo!


178 posted on 11/03/2012 2:22:03 PM PDT by toomanylaws
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To: blueyon

Why does Rasmussen show them dead even? Jerry Lee Lewis with clap ought to be able to beat this guy.


179 posted on 11/03/2012 2:27:58 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“they could strain pond water through cloth and add 1/4 tsp bleach per gallon. It won’t be delicious and it sure ain’t perrier, but it’s better than dying of thirst.”

Interesting that you cite the 1/4 tsp of bleach per gallon.

My wife has been a nurse for a long time, and she brought this formula up in discussions with a couple of friends who have loved ones back in the aftermath of Sandy.

She told them to strain the water through a pillow case or any cloth lining metal/ lining plastic strainers into a gallon container with the 1/4 tsp of bleach.

Then, when you want drinking water, pour the treated water into a Brita Filter container or similiar filter system to get rid of the chlorine taste.

Use the treated strained water for sponge baths and other actions needing germ free water.


180 posted on 11/03/2012 2:28:06 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: blueyon
Update from son: still sitting at staging center (since 6am). People coming up asking him for ice. He can't distribute it because FEMA hasn't okayed it. Meanwhile, at the distribution center, 10 pallets of ice are unloaded and sitting outside, slowly melting. People aren't waiting for FEMA and taking it. Who's running this sideshow?

I know, but not for long.
181 posted on 11/03/2012 2:28:45 PM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: Centaur

Oh, and they say he might be there til Monday.


182 posted on 11/03/2012 2:31:36 PM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: blueyon

Obama’s FEMA = EPIC FAIL


183 posted on 11/03/2012 2:34:04 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand".

Love that! Never heard it before, but will enjoy using it, thanks!

184 posted on 11/03/2012 2:34:26 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Maybe the locals be more aghast at how badly their purported government saviors have responded and will be more receptive to a Christian message as a result.

Staten Island went for McCain/Palin in 2008.

The voters in your state voted for Dumbo.

LOL!

And who are you to say that they aren't good Christians?

185 posted on 11/03/2012 2:34:30 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MissMagnolia

“Now that Geraldo has blasted all over twitter that he has koi in his pond, I wonder how long they’ll last when people have exhausted all of the throwaway food/dumpster supplies and will eat anything? Koi ‘sushi’ ... sounds pretty good when you’re starving.”

Hopefully, those people getting ready to enjoy Whorealdo’s Koi Sushi, will have a good supply of Wasabi to go with the Koi Sushi.


186 posted on 11/03/2012 2:34:58 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: blueyon

F atuous
E lection
M anipulation
A gency



187 posted on 11/03/2012 2:34:58 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: FlingWingFlyer

No shit. Would be seeing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_FEsKspu8Y


188 posted on 11/03/2012 2:35:37 PM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: FreeReign

LOL! Your state hasn’t voted for a Republican for President in thirty years.
What weird choice to crow about. I suspect something else is going on here. Like, you don’t like Baptists.


189 posted on 11/03/2012 2:46:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Centaur

Who funds FEMA?
He should let the people get the ice.
He can say he was held at gun point, he had no choice. He was overpowered.


190 posted on 11/03/2012 2:48:42 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: tomkat
F ederal
E mployees
M issing in
A ction

(stolen from a t-shirt seen in a New Orleans French Quarter gift shop)

191 posted on 11/03/2012 2:50:12 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: blueyon

Close FEMA and let the market and individual states handle it utilizing regional consoritiums and mutual aid.


192 posted on 11/03/2012 2:51:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I expect he will. He was told by the shipper that FEMA over orders but then has a poor plan for distribution. Shipper is angry cause he's paying the trucking company $500 a day to sit. Bush would be tarred by now.
193 posted on 11/03/2012 3:01:17 PM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I suspect something else is going on here. Like, you don’t like Baptists.

So you criticize Staten Islanders for not being good Christians, I defend them, and that makes me a Baptist hater.

What a stupid thing to say.

194 posted on 11/03/2012 3:01:44 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
None of this will see the day of light on ABC/NBC/CBS all in for the the Communist. It's going to get ugly if O’Bambi is reelected and keeps heading far left.
195 posted on 11/03/2012 3:22:29 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: FreeReign
None of this will see the day of light on ABC/NBC/CBS all in for the the Communist. It's going to get ugly if O’Bambi is reelected and keeps heading far left.
196 posted on 11/03/2012 3:22:41 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: PapaBear3625

There are macro issues and micro issues here. Part of the problem, actual leadership has been deemphasized in our culture, in favor of “consensus building” that of course is just nonsense and by definition a lack of leadership.

Today we have multiple layers of parallel organizations that have overlapping duties but don’t seem to do much of anything, except spend ridiculous amounts of money.

Right off the top of my head, the friggin’ Post Office could have a National Food and Water drive for Hurricane Impacted Areas, just like they do annually for the food bank drive. I probably have a case or two of bottled water and canned goods laying around. Multiply THAT by everybody in the country, and USE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE already in place. There would be a massive supply in place and delivered door to door, that’s their job.

Instead everybody just stands around and waits for somebody else it’s not my department to “do something”.


197 posted on 11/03/2012 3:29:11 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Grams A

From the gov.? Had you said yes they might’ve asked for a “processesing fee”. Sounds odd someone just discovered your business.


198 posted on 11/03/2012 3:29:30 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Frank_2001
"Companies like Walmart are “bad guys” for Communists, but “good guys” for NORMAL people;)

Yup. I'm originally from the South (south Louisiana), but now stuck in western Washington state (across the Sound from Tacoma).

The closest small town to me has been fighting tooth and nail to keep "evil Wal-Mart" out of the local market......and yet they welcomed Costco with eager enthusiasm.

The only difference between the two companies is that one is considered "conservative" and the other "liberal".

Laughable, but sad.

199 posted on 11/03/2012 3:38:35 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: blueyon

Paging Joe LIEberman

Put down the white wine and go check on your vaunted obama FEMA


200 posted on 11/03/2012 3:42:44 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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