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The U.S. Election is a Referendum on Civilization
The American Thinker ^ | November 6, 2012 | Daren Jonescu

Posted on 11/06/2012 1:52:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 11/06/2012 1:52:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

             

2 posted on 11/06/2012 1:55:49 AM PST by tomkat ( vote today like the Constitution depended on it, because it DOES)
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The Muslim Brotherhood are turning into Leninists in Islamist dress. Egypt is in real trouble .....and so are we if Obama is re-elected.
3 posted on 11/06/2012 1:56:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tomkat

That sums it up.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 1:57:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“The U.S. Election is a Referendum on Civilization”
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It is a referendum on the future of America.
Will it remain the greatest country on earth, or become like Europe, or even worse, a full blown Communist society.
God save America from the leftist scum.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 1:59:41 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
"God save America from the leftist scum."

Amen.
If I live to 100 I will never understand how any thinking person can support the community organizer. The worst president ever.

6 posted on 11/06/2012 2:13:03 AM PST by DeaconRed (How can anybody support the Kenyan. . . . .)
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To: tomkat

Yikes!


7 posted on 11/06/2012 2:14:09 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Lord, the Lord of Abraham, the Lord Who Willed America to be, America is less than ninety minutes from the dawn of Your day, a day which You have made as all the days before, am calling Lord, am calling on You Lord for there is nowhere to go but to You. Make our forces strong Lord. Bring our forces forth from Your sandy plains, hills, mountains, prairie, deserts, mountains, valleys, from every tree from coast to coast. Cause our decisions to be Your decisions Lord. Bolster our hearts for sometimes we doubt Your Power, yet we know if You will Lord, this victory will be ours. In Jesus Name. Amen. Amen.
8 posted on 11/06/2012 2:14:28 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Europe thinks we are uncivilized. I much prefer it that way.


9 posted on 11/06/2012 2:16:45 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: DeaconRed
>"How can anybody support the Kenyan"

For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 2 Thessalonians 2:11

10 posted on 11/06/2012 2:17:26 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: no-to-illegals

AMEN!


11 posted on 11/06/2012 2:18:48 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: MestaMachine

In my experience, most Americans have absolutely no idea of what Europe is like. Moreover, they tend to confuse the particular problems in one country with the entire continent. A bit like thinking the worst neighbor is the representative of the neighborhood. So, unless you actually KNOW something about Europe, perhaps you should use a different reference.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 2:21:14 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Using profanity gives people who don't want information from you an excuse not to listen.)
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To: DeaconRed

****If I live to 100 I will never understand how any thinking person can support the community organizer.****

Modern man has stopped thinking - we don’t have to. We are slaves to technology and depend on anonymous ‘others’ to deliver food, build our homes, provide & fix our water & power supplies, build and maintain our autos, roads, teach our kids and save us from natural disasters.

At some point we handed over our freedom for convenience. Much like we abort babies!! We have lost our ‘innocence’ and faith in a higher power - replacing God with an unholy Government.

Evolution in reverse!!!!


13 posted on 11/06/2012 2:23:07 AM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

That wasn’t MY reference. It was THEIRS.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 2:26:38 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: DeaconRed
....If I live to 100 I will never understand how any thinking person can support the community organizer. The worst president ever.

They appeal to mankinds' weaknesses and desires. Look where they've lived and reigned -- the inner cities.

15 posted on 11/06/2012 2:27:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MestaMachine

Sorry then.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 2:30:46 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Using profanity gives people who don't want information from you an excuse not to listen.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“this conception may sound overblown to the ignorant and disengaged, but in fact it is a great understatement.”

Jadedness may seem hip to some but it’s really not conducive to seeing a things on a grander scale or having a broader scope. Reality can be harsh but it is what it is. If you can’t accept it, it’s just gonna lead to more confusion and the view from there won’t be so clear.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 2:36:29 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Cincinatus' Wife.

18 posted on 11/06/2012 2:41:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: no-to-illegals

Thank you for that beautiful prayer...may God Bless America once again and give us a moral, decent leader rather than Obama...


19 posted on 11/06/2012 2:47:23 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

No need to be sorry. I’ve heard that phrase from many Europeans, (and others,) who seem to think we are all misguided children who need led around by our noses until we ‘mature’. It is a phrase most often used by the same ‘leaders’ who have led their own countries either to destruction or to islam...which is national suicide.
Right now we have a ‘leader’ who agrees with them and would do either or both of the same things to us. Somehow, we must ALL fight back or we ALL fall down.
Freedom IS worth the fight.


20 posted on 11/06/2012 2:53:39 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: AlexW
>>God save America from the leftist scum.

By allowing leftist policy to metastasize through all branches of the federal government for generations, a large portion of the population -- including, sadly, many who see themselves as conservatives -- have unwittingly forsaken most of what America, as a philosophical idea, stands for.

Our only salvation is if we the people shock and awe our Congress critters and new President into action to save our republic.

The real work of We The Conservatives must begin tomorrow. We must begin unrelenting pressure on Congress to reverse the damage done by Obama and 80 years of Leftism. First to go is Obamacare. Next, regulations with the force of law.

21 posted on 11/06/2012 2:56:00 AM PST by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Jacquerie

“The real work of We The Conservatives must begin tomorrow.”
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Four years in the Obamination should wake up all true Americans.
The problem is that the dark side runs the media and education.
Reviving America is going to take a lot of blood, sweat, and tears.


22 posted on 11/06/2012 3:39:46 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...Egypt is in real trouble .....and so are we if Obama is re-elected.

We are also in real trouble if Obama is not re-elected.

The difference is that if Obama is not re-elected, there is a possibility of recovery, someday, probably many years down the road.

23 posted on 11/06/2012 3:43:39 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Fair enough!


24 posted on 11/06/2012 3:50:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

And so, dear sir, educate us yokels. Please give us a clue. What IS Europe like?


25 posted on 11/06/2012 3:51:52 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

Let’s save it for the Obamanoids.

Just as there are Europeans who like Obama, there are plenty who are praying that Romney is elected.

There are governments (seats of power and cities filled with bureaucrats) and then there are reasoning people who want to get out from under the same yoke they see Obama placing on Americans.


26 posted on 11/06/2012 4:12:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AlexW
God save America from the leftist scum.

Just why should HE???






Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

27 posted on 11/06/2012 4:14:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: no-to-illegals

If My people...


28 posted on 11/06/2012 4:15:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: no-to-illegals
MY people...
 
 
 
 
Not the Liberals;
 
Not the ungodly;
 
Not the one's caught up in false religions;
 
Not ANY of these; but MY people: called by MY name...
 

Let THEM repent and forsake their wicked ways.
 
THEN I will hear from heaven and heal their land.
 
Are we up to the challenge?
 
 
 
II Chronicles 7:14

29 posted on 11/06/2012 4:19:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: no-to-illegals

Zechariah 7:13

‘When I called, they did not listen;
so when they called, I would not listen,’
says the LORD Almighty.


30 posted on 11/06/2012 4:21:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wpin
Thank you for that beautiful prayer...may God Bless America once again and give us a moral, decent leader rather than Obama...

AMEN!!

But PLEASE, Lord; could it NOT be one who is deceived by MORMONism's lies??

31 posted on 11/06/2012 4:23:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlexW
Four years in the Obamination should wake up all true Americans.

And, hopefully, four years with Mitt should wake up all true Christians as well!

32 posted on 11/06/2012 4:25:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DuncanWaring
The difference is that if Obama is not re-elected, there is a possibility of recovery, someday, probably many years down the road.

History proves your point:

When Israel had a righteous leader who followed GOD; it did well - but when they had one who followed a false god; they suffered.

33 posted on 11/06/2012 4:28:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Sounds like you are the one deceived...


34 posted on 11/06/2012 4:55:09 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It is a referendum on civilization tis true.

And while I'm voting for Mitt I'm not happy about it. I was kinda hoping for a true conservative but none of them cleared the primary hurdle.

So I console myself with this song of traditional family values and faith Happy Voting !
35 posted on 11/06/2012 5:03:55 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Elsie

Elsie, we have had very few truly Christian presidents. Better to have a moral Mormon than an immoral or posing Christian.


36 posted on 11/06/2012 5:11:02 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger

mark


37 posted on 11/06/2012 6:51:52 AM PST by BlueMoose
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To: Wpin
Sounds like you are the one deceived...

Oh?

By what?

38 posted on 11/06/2012 7:45:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wonkowasright
So I console myself with this song of traditional family values and faith Happy Voting !

Then there are OTHER songs...




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Praise to the Man!
 
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


39 posted on 11/06/2012 7:47:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Blogger
Elsie, we have had very few truly Christian presidents.

Some might ask: "What does it take to be 'christian'?"




 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


(Believing in a FALSE 'christ' does not count...)

40 posted on 11/06/2012 7:50:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Blogger
Better to have a moral Mormon than an immoral or posing Christian.

Possibly true; in the political realm.

But there ARE bigger fish to fry.

41 posted on 11/06/2012 7:51:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AlexW

My 5 yr old asked me last night “what if 0bama wins the election tomorrow”.

“Well, honey, that just steps up the timeline quite a bit.”

Romney’s election won’t prevent the collapse, just delay it for 2-5 years instead of 2-5 months.


42 posted on 11/06/2012 7:52:45 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Elsie

Your misconception of the Mormon faith...sad really.


43 posted on 11/06/2012 8:36:10 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Elsie

So many. Any about how the native americans are going to come to rescue us ?


44 posted on 11/06/2012 9:56:24 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Wpin
Your misconception of the Mormon faith...sad really.

And what might that be?

45 posted on 11/06/2012 10:12:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wonkowasright
Any about how the native americans are going to come to rescue us ?

None that I know of from the Ute and/or Paiute tribes...


I do not feel threatened by it because I don’t think that they will be attempting to convert by the sword.
 

The gruesome be headings of some 40 Ute corpses in 1850, heads stacked in boxes,
and hung by their long hair from the eves of buildings at Fort Utah,
 has long been ignored, “You didn’t see the Indians beheading the Mormons.”
 
-- Historian Robert Carter

46 posted on 11/06/2012 10:14:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wpin
Your misconception of the Mormon faith...sad really.

Yup; it IS sad when there's a lot of that misconception stuff going on.



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

47 posted on 11/06/2012 10:15:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FReepers
Just Do It!
Show Up And VOTE.

Vote Romney/Ryan

48 posted on 11/06/2012 10:20:33 AM PST by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Elsie

Yawn, you are truly making yourself an irrelevant person...I really do not give a damn what crap you produce...I lived in Salt Lake for 13 years and I KNOW Mormons...I would put the average Mormon up against the average non-Mormon any day as being more ethical, compassionate, and decent. People like you are despicable in their attempt to oppress people who believe differently than you do. Get over it chump.


49 posted on 11/06/2012 10:30:01 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Can a false prophet establish a true religion from God? ... And perhaps you can help me out here: I read that Joseph Smith taught the god of MormonISM was once a mana and had a father, and had to earn the attributes of godhood and be apponted the god over the earth by a council of gods; do you happen to know the god of MormonISM’s father’s name?


50 posted on 11/06/2012 10:36:28 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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