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Russian attack sub discovered just 200 miles from the East Coast and given safe harbor...
Daily Mail ^ | 11/06/12

Posted on 11/06/2012 2:04:52 AM PST by Libloather

Russian attack sub discovered just 200 miles from the East Coast and given safe harbor from Hurricane Sandy
By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 00:15 EST, 6 November 2012

U.S. defense officials are downplaying the potential threat of a Russian attack sub detected just 200 miles from the East Coast and given safe harbor in Florida during Hurricane Sandy.

The Russian Seirra-2 class submarine was believed to be part of the country's Northern Fleet, outfitted with SS-N-21 anti-submarine warfare missiles, SS-N-16 anti-submarine warfare missiles, and torpedos.

**SNIP**

Officials said the submarine was likely conducting anti-submarine warfare efforts against U.S. ballistic and cruise missile submarines at Kings Bay, Georgia.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hurricane; russian; sandy; sub
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Flexibility...


1 posted on 11/06/2012 2:05:02 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

There’s flexibility and there’s accommodation. Maybe Obama wants to offer the Soviets a base in Florida. Much more convenient than Cuba.

Strange, because I heard that the U.S. Navy sent the fleet in Norfolk out to sea to avoid Sandy. Ships at anchorage bang into things.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 2:12:29 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Absurd and silly election time exageration. We are not at war with Russia. 200 miles is international waters. It was a friendly gesture and would be expected to be reciprocated. If a US sub was off the coast of Russia and they refused safe harbor and there was an accident what would we say? By calling it an “attack sub” it is made to sound incendiary, but it isn’t.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 2:18:16 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Using profanity gives people who don't want information from you an excuse not to listen.)
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To: Libloather
However, the Russian sub was considered safe enough that it was given a safe harbor in Jacksonville, Florida's commercial port during Hurricane Sandy, within listening range of Kings Bay.

I'd expect that the last place you'd go in a nuc boat is into ANY harbor during a storm and especially a harbor full of potential adversaries with cameras and other surveillance equipment. Assuming this isn't a wholesale fabrication, was it possible to get a hotel room in Jacksonville, or did the intelligence agencies have them booked solid?

I imagine it sailing away again covered in everything from graffiti to hull-attached transponders and trailing a bunch of tin cans on strings- the naval equivalent of falling asleep drunk at a rowdy frat party. :-)

4 posted on 11/06/2012 2:23:40 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Libloather; TigersEye; Beckwith

Nuclear subs travel so far beneath the sea’s storm surges that they do not have to “port” in any storm.

This article is CRAP. If the sub ported, it certainly was not because of hurrican Sandy.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 2:26:04 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Libloather; TigersEye; Beckwith

Nuclear subs travel so far beneath the sea’s storm surges that they do not have to “port” in any storm.

This article is CRAP. If the sub ported, it certainly was not because of hurricane Sandy.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 2:26:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Exactly. Since when do subs, which can DIVE, need to be protected from hurricanes?


7 posted on 11/06/2012 2:27:22 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Libloather

Nuclear powered attack submarines have no need to surface into the middle of a hurricane, unless thunseaworthy about them. So, why would a Russian nuclear powered attack submarine need a safe harbor in a U.S. port unless the boat was in distress?


8 posted on 11/06/2012 2:29:26 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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OK, I imagine an attack sub is nimble and quick, soooo ... why does it need a safe harbor?

Subs go way down in the ocean, and again I imagine there's not that much hurricane activity (I'm sure there's some .. ) a thousand or more feet below the surface, soooo .. why does it need a safe harbor ?

By what method did we deem it 'safe' and allow it safe harbor ?


So now we have a Russian attack sub, tricked out for war .. invited into the house after they rang the bell and said, "trick or treat"

?????

9 posted on 11/06/2012 2:30:50 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

It is an attack sub, meant to attack other subs and ships, as opposed to a missile boomer. It’s not intended to be incendiary, just descriptive. Attacking things is what warships do and submarines are definitely at the pointy end of the spear.

There are protocols about the distance missile boomers are supposed to keep off shore, a gentleman’s agreement. Their isn’t any evidence that they were in distress. When a Russian freighter was in Boston Harbor, we were not allowed to test certain waveforms for a Navy radar at a land site twenty five miles away. Every Russian ship is an intelligence platform.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 2:32:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: Libloather

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2955363/posts

http://freebeacon.com/russian-subs-skirt-coast/


11 posted on 11/06/2012 2:40:40 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

for cross reference


12 posted on 11/06/2012 2:41:40 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Libloather

Ridiculous! Subs go under the water for safe refuge in storm. What a bunch of socially promoted, naive, pretenders in DC to allow this move.

Really, in a world of suicide bombings what exactly stops the sub from launching on DC to achieve victory by mugging. MAD? I wouldn’t trust that doctrine anymore with this commie sympathizing Potemkin President and his czars pulling strings.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 2:46:51 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: Libloather

‘Hunt for Red October’ or Target Practice?


14 posted on 11/06/2012 2:55:20 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Libloather

We have an Islamic radical in the White House and Russia can’t trust him!


15 posted on 11/06/2012 2:58:41 AM PST by Broker (November... VICTORY or DEATH!!)
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To: Candor7

>>Nuclear subs travel so far beneath the sea’s storm surges that they do not have to “port” in any storm.

I sailed very smoothly under quite a few storms in my submarining days. Since subs have round bottom, the last place they want be in a storm is on the surface or in port. There is definitely more to this.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 2:59:41 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Libloather

Election monitors. Everyone else seems to think it’s OK to stick their nose into our elections.

Maybe Putin wanted to see what he was getting for his money to support Hussein’s re-election.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 3:03:01 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

The search function doesn’t work for me right now. I gave it an honest shot.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 3:03:20 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Bryanw92

Any thoughts about what it could be?

I have a bad feeling about Obama’s lame-duck period. The Clintons trashed the White House before leaving, but I’m afraid Obama will trash a lot more.


19 posted on 11/06/2012 3:10:45 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: exPBRrat
Apparently The Daily Mail completely botched the story.

If you read the other articles, the claim is that a Russian AGI (Intelligence ship)
was given safe harbor, NOT the submarine.

20 posted on 11/06/2012 3:12:35 AM PST by Strategerist
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