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Romney now up by 20,000 in Ohio with 78% in
CNN ^ | November 6, 2012 | CNN

Posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:38 PM PST by Arec Barrwin

Romney now up by 20,000 in Ohio with 78% in

of course VA & FL still grim though

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To: Arec Barrwin

Too late, guys. Thanks to everyone who demanded purity of thought and deed, look where it got us.

Time to come up with someplace REAL safe to park what’s left of my IRA so I can afford to have at least a few months of retirement sometime before I turn 90.


51 posted on 11/06/2012 9:20:36 PM PST by ssaftler (It's mourning in America.)
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To: Catsrus

They didn’t call it first....


52 posted on 11/06/2012 9:21:03 PM PST by moehoward
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To: re_nortex

Because they all three called it a landslide for Romney! They were all three dead wrong.


53 posted on 11/06/2012 9:21:57 PM PST by Galtoid ( .)
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To: eeevil conservative

Here comes Obamacare. a government union employee elite class and far more destruction by following European styled socialism.

Put a fork in America, she has been killed IMO.
This was NOT just another election.

I also think Romney did the best he could and gave it his all despite what any think of him here.


54 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:12 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Something is horribly wrong when a record of FAILURE is rewarded with even the slightest win. It defies logic that this wasn’t a landslide b-slap win for anyone running against Barry. Today’s results speaks volumes about what is wrong in our country.


55 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:38 PM PST by Made In The USA (Obama may not be running on his record, but he sure as hell can't run from it.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Here comes Obamacare. a government union employee elite class and far more destruction by following European styled socialism.

Put a fork in America, she has been killed IMO.
This was NOT just another election.

I also think Romney did the best he could and gave it his all despite what any think of him here.


56 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:41 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: gswilder

That happened in 2000. 1876 was far worse!


57 posted on 11/06/2012 9:23:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RIghtwardHo

“All that is left is one mega blue county and one very small red one.”

Pretty much. Although territory wise, the red one is bigger.


58 posted on 11/06/2012 9:23:43 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Can we have a third party now?)
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To: DonaldC
Yeah, I understand the elite Liberals, the welfare queens, and the union thugs. What shocked me tonight is independents apparently looked at these two candidates and determined that the community organizer was the country's best bet for the future.

I'm just stunned beyond words.

59 posted on 11/06/2012 9:24:44 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Catsrus

Doesn’t matter. He still won by 3 Electoral Votes even without Ohio.


60 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:20 PM PST by Optimus Prime (Do liberals even qualify as sentient beings?)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Whutevuh....


61 posted on 11/06/2012 9:27:23 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“What shocked me tonight is independents apparently looked at these two candidates and determined that the community organizer was the country’s best bet for the future.”

Turns out they were not “Independent” at all. More like Dependent on sugar daddy Big Government.


62 posted on 11/06/2012 9:28:24 PM PST by lodi90
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To: re_nortex
Why did you include Rush Limbaugh in that trio? He's been an unwavering voice for Constitutional Conservatism for decades and is poised to be be stronger than ever in the years ahead. He succinctly articulates the values at the core of the real America and helps to rally the base.

I sure agree with you about RUSH. He will give us some insight tomorrow. Although I have heard him lately say that the next President would pick the SCOTUS seats available and our chances of renewal as a country would be too far gone. God BLESS RUSH!!!

63 posted on 11/06/2012 9:29:18 PM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Made In The USA
you have to remember that obama continues to be counted as black. That's worth an extra ten million votes.

That's why I suggested Axelrod called on his friends in the KGB to burn up some covert assets in the US to beat Herman Cain. He was the only candidate who could defeat that particular Obama talent.

64 posted on 11/06/2012 9:29:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Monorprise

Von Thronstahl-The Age of Decay and Democracy

65 posted on 11/06/2012 9:30:06 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: GraceG

“I posted a thought and I think it bears repeating. What did people like us think when FDR kept getting re-elected?”

My late Grandmother before she passed away this year told me something of those times. She expressed how frustrated her conservative father was with the behavioral of the mob, and foretold exactly how it would end in the deterioration of our republic in to an evermore lawless democracy.


We have been “Food Stampeded””

The truth is you are right FDR won so many times because he built up a popular collation of thieves & ideologies who might also be called Democratic voters. Obama has in this election and the past 4 years done much the same thing. People may not agree with most of his radical policy’s but they wont bite the hand that they now depend-upon for substance.

As a whole our once free republic is dead not just in its Constitution(as John Roberts demonstrated again this year) but also in the criminal additude of most(not all) of its people.

There remains however the silverlining of that minority of us(mostly in the south) that still believe in liberty, property rights, and Constitutional conviction. While the north and Federation as a whole may be without hope of salvation

We don’t all have to be suppressed and robed until we have nothing left of our individual sprint & prosperity and little choice but to join the mob of thieves aiming to rob the next bit.

It will take a great deal of work and a momentous political movement but we can leave Sadom and start anew with those men and women still yearning to live free. We can create a new country founded in liberty upon a real Constitution again.


66 posted on 11/06/2012 9:30:58 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: re_nortex

Nah. Not the core of the country any more.

Maybe 40% of us.

It breaks the heart.


67 posted on 11/06/2012 9:31:29 PM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: Monorprise

Von Thronstahl-The Age of Decay and Democracy

68 posted on 11/06/2012 9:31:32 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: A CA Guy

I know a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking will be happening tonight and tomorrow but I agree with you that Romney did the best he could. It’s just not good enough with the 47% of takers and the 5-10% of our population who have sympathy with those 47%. We are so BLANKED that I’m really scared for my family and little ones.

I’m seriously trying to find a way out of this mess but really cannot come up with one.


69 posted on 11/06/2012 9:32:06 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: A CA Guy

“I also think Romney did the best he could and gave it his all despite what any think of him here.”

I have to agree that he played the cards he had very, very well. I don’t think he was a good candidate ideologically and Lord knows I didn’t support him. I merely gave him the benefit of the doubt today. But I have come to respect him. Which is something I couldn’t say even a month ago. I was wrong on that part of the equation. He is a liberal and I disagree with him, but he ran as good of a campaign as could be hoped for.

The problem is in my view much more stark. We have a society that is composed of more takers than makers. No conservative is going to win in that environment.


70 posted on 11/06/2012 9:32:06 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: DonaldC

The checks will not stop flowing until they run out of your money and your possessions unless you and others stop them.

Warning, you will not be able to stop them by the vote.

The destruction caused by the last 30 years of progressive education and immigration have seen to it that we are no longer a Republic but a Democracy that is fast becoming a Dictatorship.

Do you or anyone else doubt me?


71 posted on 11/06/2012 9:32:34 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: lodi90
"big daddy"

reinforces my thought the country is getting dumber by the year. Obama is a rank disaster. As bad as or worse than Carter's presidency. But he's getting rewarded with another four years. Next time a real conservative. If that real conservative loses, time to think about splitting up the country to avoid living in a socialist pesthole.

72 posted on 11/06/2012 9:33:14 PM PST by driftless2
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To: lodi90
"big daddy"

reinforces my thought the country is getting dumber by the year. Obama is a rank disaster. As bad as or worse than Carter's presidency. But he's getting rewarded with another four years. Next time a real conservative. If that real conservative loses, time to think about splitting up the country to avoid living in a socialist pesthole.

73 posted on 11/06/2012 9:34:38 PM PST by driftless2
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74 posted on 11/06/2012 9:35:11 PM PST by tomkat (galt)
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To: Monorprise

This election is going to be very difficult medicine to swallow. Not the results so much but what they mean.

Take a look at the electoral map today and compare it to a map of the US circa 1862.


75 posted on 11/06/2012 9:36:37 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: A CA Guy
I also think Romney did the best he could and gave it his all despite what any think of him here.

I agree. He may have run the best Republican presidential campaign I have ever seen. He gave great speeches, he did extremely well in the debates, and I thought his advertising was excellent.

76 posted on 11/06/2012 9:39:31 PM PST by TChad
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To: Sequoyah101

“The checks will not stop flowing until they run out of your money and your possessions unless you and others stop them.

Warning, you will not be able to stop them by the vote.

The destruction caused by the last 30 years of progressive education and immigration have seen to it that we are no longer a Republic but a Democracy that is fast becoming a Dictatorship.

Do you or anyone else doubt me?”

No doubt here, but to clear up your terms We became a democracy as apposed to a Republic when the Constitution cease to be upheld and enforced.

The Democracy is (as has always happens in the past)now leading progressively towards not only financial & moral rune but inevitably a dictatorship.

That is for everyone of us who remains bond to it. AS we have seen a great many in our population still hold true to virtues and can be saved self-inflicted doom that is to come if we simply broke off from the mob and created a new country(union) consecrated in liberty and Constitutional limits, as the original one was.

In that act we might buy our posterity anther 200 years, longer if we learn from theses mistakes.


77 posted on 11/06/2012 9:39:43 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Made In The USA

So it had nothing to do with the gop-e picking Romney? It had nothing to do with Freepers blinding calling Romney the next Reagan just because he had an(R) after his name? None of that comes into play?


78 posted on 11/06/2012 9:40:49 PM PST by turn_to
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To: driftless2

“Next time a real conservative. If that real conservative loses, time to think about splitting up the country to avoid living in a socialist pesthole.”

What makes you think a conservative has a prayer with the electorate at large? This election was between a radical socialist and a liberal. The people chose the radical socialist. This isn’t a problem with packaging or the ideology of the candidate. It’s much more stark than that.


79 posted on 11/06/2012 9:43:05 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Independents are people who tend to fancy themselves moderates. As Rush says “moderates are just liberals who don’t want to admit it”. I guess Rush forgot his own analysis on this group.


80 posted on 11/06/2012 9:45:17 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: RKBA Democrat

It’s not the same country it was when Reagan was re-elected in 1984. The demographics have shifted beyond our control, and it will only get worse.

People are only going to wake up and realize it after it is too late.


81 posted on 11/06/2012 9:45:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Monorprise

Again, bitter medicine. It’s very hard to get people to accept that.

I’m sure the like minded will be discussing it here in the coming days.


82 posted on 11/06/2012 9:48:27 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: Monorprise

Von Thronstahl-The Age of Decay and Democracy

83 posted on 11/06/2012 9:50:26 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: TChad

“I agree. He may have run the best Republican presidential campaign I have ever seen. He gave great speeches, he did extremely well in the debates, and I thought his advertising was excellent.”

I think its kind of ilrelevent, maybe he could have done something better and won, maybe he couldn’t and the corruption(government thief) was simply too stacked against him. Either way it was a fight for the hearts of a dwindling population of Republicans(virtue not party).

As more of the population is educated to accept voting themselves money from other people’s pockets there is nothing anyone can do but become a greater part of the problem until there nether any money nor productive citizen left to buy votes off the back of.

Then you have a dictatorship, such is inevitable the fate of those states(and their people) that remain a party(subject) to these united States.


84 posted on 11/06/2012 9:51:27 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: dfwgator

“People are only going to wake up and realize it after it is too late.”

Depends what people you’re talking about. I think we all just got a dash of cold water as to whether most of our countrymen will be waking up anytime soon.


85 posted on 11/06/2012 9:52:19 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: Monorprise

You do not need to counter me as we are in violent agreement.

So far as I can see the only question that remains now is how is the breaking off to be done? We have given due process all the chances it deserves.

We were never intended to be a Democracy because the conclusion you suggest, Dictatorship, was foreseen and only the Constitution that has been corrupted from the intended form was there to stop the Dictatorship.

I will add to you, a fellow Texan, that Texas is not the refuge some think it is. Texas is rapidly becoming BLUE and the trickle of immigrant invasion that has caused that shift will now become a flood.

First taxes to support all those who will vote themselves a raise from YOUR treasury. I’m talking about your pocket book. Next rising property taxes... you do not now own your own property. You only think you do. It is owned by the taxing authorities. What you ear and what you have will be taken from you forcibly if necessary.


86 posted on 11/06/2012 9:55:55 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: TChad

agree


87 posted on 11/06/2012 9:57:00 PM PST by Kay
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To: turn_to

“So it had nothing to do with the gop-e picking Romney? It had nothing to do with Freepers blinding calling Romney the next Reagan just because he had an(R) after his name? None of that comes into play?”

Maybe it did, maybe it didn’t, Does it really matter either way? The fact is the socialist manage to buy off enough votes to retain power. The majority of key populations was corrupt enough to accept that bribe and choose to screw their countrymen.

You tell me how we are suppose to share a union with such criminals? Shall we play their game and fight to rob them until nobody has either any freedom, or individual innitive to work hard for prosperity left?

We play our noble game and we will simply be victims of the thieves, we play there game and we will become victims of each other. Either way its only a matter of time before nobody has enough individual drive or freedom to produce money left.

We will be left with but 2 choices a dictator promising us salvation, and a politician promising us more money that don’t exist(because almost nobody is left to produce). Guess who is going to eventually win?

Its time to gather what patriots we have and concoct a plan to leave Sodom to burn in its own fires. We can’t save criminals form themselves but we can try to save & protect the few patriots that remain. But that requires separation.


88 posted on 11/06/2012 10:02:34 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: RKBA Democrat

Population wise their almost comparable if we swap free people for wannabe state slaves(and criminals).


89 posted on 11/06/2012 10:06:55 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Galtoid

Rush did not like Romney, at all.

The blame for this lies ONE main place, the fifth column MSM. Their malpractice over events like Libya is astoundingly filthy. For the life of me, I can’t see what they get out of this. They destroy a great country and are still going to all go out of business.

The heck with them all. I’m going Galt, and other than that raising as much havoc as I can.

My guess is by 2016 we are going to be in a deep depression and anything can happen.


90 posted on 11/06/2012 10:12:47 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: TigerClaws
Christie

Sandy.

Stupid GOP rape comments

Stupid American voters.

Sold their souls for a cell phone and a slogan.

BUT, in case there is any doubt..... It was the Main Stream Media that elected and reelected Obama.

91 posted on 11/06/2012 10:18:41 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: RKBA Democrat

yeah, things are bad. A very large percentage of Americans are takers instead of producers. Romney failed to differentiate himself from Obama. He was not an ideologue. He was a nice guy who thought people would vote for him because he was a nice guy. We have to have a conservative candidate who can try to educate the electorate and illustrate why the Dem Party and socialism are evil. I’m not saying it’s assured that candidate will win. But we ran a moderate Pubbie who should have stomped a walking disaster like Obama. He lost. In four years if we lose with a genuine conservative, it’s time to talk about splitting up the country.


92 posted on 11/06/2012 10:28:30 PM PST by driftless2
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To: tomkat

As anyone can see by the red states on election maps tonight -— the south is another country


93 posted on 11/06/2012 11:07:13 PM PST by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: Sequoyah101

You ask how do we start the break? Well look to history and you may find you agree with me that the seed for it has already begun.

All we need do is fill into the minds of our true countrymen(republican in virtue) the raw truth of our situation with the inevitable outcome and the only real option for saving yourself and our posterity from the self-destructive ravages of the lawless criminal mob.

That is the best advice I can give you as it is the only method that I personalty have found to work. I hope very much that with your own experience and thinking power that you might find other methods and strategies.

being a patriot with a love of liberty and a respect for my own limitations I can only ask that you share what you learn & come up with, so that I too might benefit.


94 posted on 11/06/2012 11:37:41 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: driftless2

If you want to have that conversation in 4 years you be wise to start it now as many of us already are. It will take a great deal of effort and origination to put together a 2nd American revolution.

We will require decades of planing and perpetration before we get to that point, and so far we have but 4 years into that road, and anther 4 still to come.

Do as you think best driftless2, But I see this game is already over. The American repubilic is dead as the Constitution practical limits on Government power, and the democracy that has taken its place has already in the process of murdering itself.

Frankly it is that process that we should be watching for that process is the process by which wealth is compensated from those with the sprite and drive to be productive and rewarded to those who choose to be idle thieves.

As the productive are driven out of business and onto the doll they or their children will cease to be patriots and become yet anther part of the mob seeking to consume the next bit of our population.

In this way we patriots are on the clock. If we are to stop this cycle we must amutate(secede) to cut ourselfs off from the criminal reach cancerous criminal bit of our population.

But each day that we wait & prepare that goes by the cancer will spread. It is thus wise to begin preparing the political, physical, and moral ground work for the revolution now, so that when the time comes that you decide it is nessary we will be ready.


95 posted on 11/06/2012 11:54:07 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
I was just over at NRO reading various articles by the talking heads there about why Romney lost. None of them chose the obvious one: more and more Americans love big government. They tried to blame the loss on Romney's stances on immigration or other conservative issues completely ignoring the possibility that there are simply now more takers than producers and more ignorant Americans. Their idea of a great government is one that takes from other citizens and gives to them.

The big thinkers in the conservative establishment were all behind Romney because he wasn't one of those nasty Tea Party types. Well he still got beat. Not by a lot, but this is an election where the Pubbie should have easily defeated a truly awful president. Didn't happen. Only one thing left to do other becoming Dem lite. Offer a true conservative next time. If that candidate loses, time to split.

96 posted on 11/07/2012 1:46:27 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Your argument is very reminiscent of the perpetual argument against 3rd parties: we can’t support a third party because we have to give the gop just one more chance. But some day in the ill-defined future date, we’ll try something different. And that ill-define future date never comes.

This was not just an election defeat, it was a repudiation of the values that we as conservatives hold dear. The choice couldn’t have been much more stark. I am no great fan of Gov. Romney, but to his credit I don’t see anyone else who could have done any better. Yes, he is a lot further left than I like but given the choice between radical socialism and a sort of liberal moderate conservatism, the people picked radical socialism. And it wasn’t even close.

At a certain point you realize that Ronald Reagan is not coming through that door on his charging steed.


97 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:25 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: driftless2

Oh and one further point. While we sit around and lick our wounds and debate trying the same thing for the umpteenth time, the other side works to consolidate it’s victory. Immigration reform is the next item on their agenda. They know demographics is destiny.


98 posted on 11/07/2012 3:21:24 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat

You’re falling to a common election fallacy, that the same people show up to vote at each election. How ‘moderates’ and independents vote largely depends on which subset of the group is motivated to get out and vote. That means flashing a bright enough beacon from the part of the political spectrum that they lean toward to get them swept up in your movement. It doesn’t mean plotting the perfect mean between the bookended main masses of voters.

Likewise, what Obama’s campaign understood, and Romney’s MA-based political braintrust didn’t, is that you win by getting large numbers of your base motivated to get out and vote.

The Romney team ran him just as they did in MA, which as a managerial leader, rather than a leader of a political philosophy. That meant Romney had almost reverse coattails in MA—and an every shrinking GOP representation in the legislature—while it meant that what should have been a strong senatorial year for the GOP was a significant retreat in numbers for the incoming senate: another big boost to Obama.

Instead of engaging on philosophy, Romney ran on a condescending list of promises: ‘12 million more jobs, more take-home pay’.

He effectively took Obamacare off the table as an issue, by stubbornly promoting the wisdom of Romneycare.

He played it so safe in the last debate that he also took Benghazi—and exposure of Obama’s gunrunning to the enemy—off the table as well.

Romney didn’t lose by way of reckless gaffe, but by being all too cautious and almost apologetic for whatever shred of conservative ideology he didn’t abandon.


99 posted on 11/07/2012 3:28:11 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Monorprise

“Its time to gather what patriots we have and concoct a plan to leave Sodom to burn in its own fires.”

People are checking out Panama.

http://christianexodus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=9&Itemid=66


100 posted on 11/07/2012 3:28:49 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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