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When the 2016 Election Arrives, The GOP will enter having won the popular vote once in 28 years.
Vanity | 11-7-2012 | TitansAFC

Posted on 11/06/2012 10:27:31 PM PST by TitansAFC

Just a point in fact for the GOP at large:

When Election Day 2016 rolls around, the GOP will enter the night having convinced more Americans to vote for their candidate than for the Democrat candidate exactly one time in 28 years.

Thats ONCE in TWENTY-EIGHT years. Just damn.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2016; obama; romney; vanity

1 posted on 11/06/2012 10:27:36 PM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

What 2016 election?

That was the last one folks.

Hell, for that matter, 2010 was the last one.

I don’t think we survive another 2 years.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 10:30:13 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: TitansAFC

numbers


3 posted on 11/06/2012 10:30:27 PM PST by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: TitansAFC

50-48%.

But the Left will rule because demography is favoring them in the long run.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 10:31:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TitansAFC

And the Democrats have only won 3 times?


5 posted on 11/06/2012 10:31:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: TitansAFC

GW was voted in twice in the last 12 years.

Am I missing something?


6 posted on 11/06/2012 10:32:13 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: TitansAFC

“popular” - never mind...


7 posted on 11/06/2012 10:33:23 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: nickcarraway

Add another 8 years to that cuz Hillary is a shoo-in for 8 years in 2016. She will be more loved than Obama by the media and Obama will be viewed by them as one of the greatest presidents ever.


8 posted on 11/06/2012 10:35:15 PM PST by StevieRay20
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To: TitansAFC
For once I can agree with the libs about one aspect of this:

"Bush's Fault="TM

9 posted on 11/06/2012 10:35:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jonno

GW did not win the popular vote against Gore.

As I said, the GOP will enter the 2016 Presidential Election having convinced more Americans to vote for their Presidential candidate than for the Democratic candidate exactly one time in 28 years (2004).

It is a center-left electorate now, and women voters are crushing male voters.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 10:36:17 PM PST by TitansAFC (Nice job, Rick Santorum. Mission Accomplished! Grrrrrrrrrr.......................)
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To: jonno; nickcarraway

Clinton won the popular vote in 1992, 1996

Gore won the popular vote in 2000.

Bush won in 2004

Obama won in 2008 and 2012.

So Dems have won 5 of the last 6 popular votes. Pretty meaningless..


11 posted on 11/06/2012 10:36:52 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: TitansAFC
When Election Day 2016 rolls around, the GOP will enter the night having convinced more Americans to vote for their candidate than for the Democrat candidate exactly one time in 28 years.

Thats ONCE in TWENTY-EIGHT years. Just damn.


Let's look at the string of candidates since 1988. Let's see...George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. Each Republican nominee more liberal than the last.

Hmmm. A string of liberal candidates, and George W. Bush, the only one who was elected twice, ended up increasing the size, scope, power, expense, and intrusiveness of the federal government (with the help of RINOs in Congress).

Maybe, just maybe, the GOP should stop nominating liberals with (R) next to their name. Because it ain't working too well.
12 posted on 11/06/2012 10:37:21 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: StevieRay20

Not necessarily. Republicans in congress can make her the target for the failed Benghazi mess - she took responsibility.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 10:37:53 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Safrguns
I don’t think we survive another 2 years.

People were saying this in 2008. This nation has survived worse, and as long as the Republicans in Congress don't just roll over for the Democrats, we'll survive another four years.
14 posted on 11/06/2012 10:38:09 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: TitansAFC

We are Venezuela.


15 posted on 11/06/2012 10:38:09 PM PST by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: TitansAFC

That isn’t accurate, 1988, and 2004.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 10:38:13 PM PST by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: grey_whiskers
The Rats have close to 50% of all Americans getting a Gov't check and no matter what they aren't going to vote against their checks.

Most voters admitted this in the exit polls today and it's not going to change anytime soon!

17 posted on 11/06/2012 10:39:29 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Safrguns
We'll have another election in 2016. It will just be more obviously a Venezuelan-style election that we won't get all excited about it.

The Evil Party beats the Stupid Party, not for the first time.

Obama has had the most incompetent and scandal-ridden administration since Grant's--and Grant won only because he was up against a crackpot. Romney was so much clearly superior to Obama as a potential leader...not another Horace Greeley.

The other historical analogy that comes to mind is if Aaron Burr had managed to become President in 1801 instead of Jefferson.

18 posted on 11/06/2012 10:39:43 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TitansAFC

Talking about “wealth” and “corporate America” is not going to radicalize young voters enough to convince them to vote Republican.


19 posted on 11/06/2012 10:40:05 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: ansel12

So 27 years?


20 posted on 11/06/2012 10:40:12 PM PST by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: TitansAFC

What difference does that mean? We could look at this the other way around: The Democrats will go into the 2016 election having won more than 50% of the popular vote only twice in 40 years.


21 posted on 11/06/2012 10:40:16 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

If you don’t see the significance of it, you would fit in well with the current GOP leadership.


22 posted on 11/06/2012 10:43:26 PM PST by TitansAFC (Nice job, Rick Santorum. Mission Accomplished! Grrrrrrrrrr.......................)
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To: TitansAFC

Okay, so Puns only won two of six, and one of those times the popular and electoral votes split. But why cut it off at that particular point, other than that it makes it look as bad as possible? Everyone knows Clinton and Obama won twice and Gore won the popular vote 00. I don’t see any illuminating in the way you put it.


23 posted on 11/06/2012 10:45:00 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: TitansAFC

The republican party will not win the Presidency again ever it is done over finished...... They will have a hard time winning any marginal states like Florida or Ohio Iowa again.. Look we the republican party had both houses the governors in all the swing states and they couldn’t pull it off!!


24 posted on 11/06/2012 10:46:52 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: TitansAFC
I find it completely meaningless when you consider how many of those elections had credible third-party candidates who attracted a tangible portion of the popular vote.

Just go back and look at some of the "landslide" elections we've had in the last 50 years and see how close those popular votes were. Ronald Reagan wiped the floor with Jimmy Carter in 1980 but only won 50.8% of the popular vote, for example.

25 posted on 11/06/2012 10:47:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: donna

There is a good point.

The GOP has added so many issues to their list of “polarizing issues” that all that remains in use is Economic Issues, Taxes, National Defense, and Foreign Policy.

These issues are not the issues that motivate new voters to come to your party. They just don’t.


26 posted on 11/06/2012 10:55:05 PM PST by TitansAFC (Nice job, Rick Santorum. Mission Accomplished! Grrrrrrrrrr.......................)
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To: nickcarraway

a majority....a large majority...voted against the toon....


27 posted on 11/06/2012 10:56:12 PM PST by cherry
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To: Safrguns

Agreed.


28 posted on 11/06/2012 10:57:05 PM PST by mykroar (RIP America :: 11/6/12)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
people DO NOT CARE ABOUT BENGAZI....they don't care about the military guys either....

its not an issue...

we've entered the post WW2 malaise where duty, patriotism,law,righteousness,chivalry DO NOT MEAN A DAMN THING.....

the voters and the fraudsters have told us so...

29 posted on 11/06/2012 11:00:26 PM PST by cherry
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To: america-rules

have to include all the military getting their pensions....don’t discount that they are on the govt teat as well....


30 posted on 11/06/2012 11:02:04 PM PST by cherry
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To: TitansAFC

There are no two parties.

There are the Democrats and the RINO’s.The rest of us are well on our way to dissappearing.


31 posted on 11/06/2012 11:02:29 PM PST by Venturer
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To: goldstategop
But the Left will rule because demography is favoring them in the long run.

Only because the GOP can't manage to win over Latino voters, most of whom are social conservatives and a natural fit for a conservative party. The GOP has gotten nowhere with ending illegal immigration - Obama's destruction of the US economy has done more to curb illegal immigration than anything any GOP president or legislator has ever accomplished. At the same time, even though the GOP has accomplished nothing in the battle against illegal immigration, it is still regarded as a hostile threat by Latino voters, who have become a huge new voting bloc for the Democrats, turning former Reagan-country states like California and Nevada into Democrat strongholds.

The GOP is losing on both ends of the illegal immigration issue, and stands to become a permanent minority party as a result.
32 posted on 11/06/2012 11:02:33 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Verginius Rufus
" We'll have another election in 2016. It will just be more obviously a Venezuelan-style election that we won't get all excited about it."

It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. --Joseph Stalin

33 posted on 11/06/2012 11:04:30 PM PST by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: TitansAFC

You might want to come up with a Plan B, because the GOP is dead.

I have personally cast my last vote and I am not convinced that there will even be an election in 2016.


34 posted on 11/06/2012 11:04:36 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Safrguns

I agree. This country is done.


35 posted on 11/06/2012 11:06:38 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: nolongerademocrat

Here’s more “food for thought.” Recognizing that the final tallies aren’t done yet, Obama is currently 9 million votes under his tally from 08...6 hours ago, I would’ve said that’s a very good sign. What I don’t understand is, if the GOP turnout machine was really so good, and voter intensity for the GOP was so high, how the heck can Romney have 3 million LESS votes than McCain’s total from 08???


36 posted on 11/06/2012 11:41:00 PM PST by college_kid
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To: af_vet_rr

Thank you for your common sense. The New Deal and Great Depression was much worse. Hell, tax rates were higher under Ike than under 0bama.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 12:00:17 AM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: college_kid

I don’t know. I do know that G-d’s judgment is about to fall on this country HARD.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 12:03:46 AM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Lou Budvis
Thank you for your common sense. The New Deal and Great Depression was much worse. Hell, tax rates were higher under Ike than under 0bama.

I happen to believe this country is much stronger than some here give it credit for and I'm glad you believe that as well.

If this country does not survive the coming years, it's only because of the complacency of Republicans in Congress.
39 posted on 11/07/2012 12:15:44 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: TitansAFC

In the next 4 years we will be Greece . If you think that will lead to elections (honest or otherwise ) I would like to sell you some Florida swamp land real cheap.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 12:33:04 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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To: af_vet_rr

I think we’ll survive and I am optimistic that just maybe after another 4 years of this, some people will wise up.

I hate to talk about all this doom and gloom because I don’t think we should sound like those Kerry supporters in 2004 who had to seek psychological help because that madman Bush had been reelected. They were also convinced it was the end for America. Although many of them are still convinced they were right! In any case I don’t want to stoop to their level.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 12:38:47 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: MrShoop

Clinton didn’t win a majority either time.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 12:43:44 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: StevieRay20; StarFan
Add another 8 years to that cuz Hillary is a shoo-in for 8 years in 2016.

Sadly, I think you are right, Stevie. The first phone call Obama made tonight after Romney called him, was to thank Bill Clinton - big time - for helping him win this election. The Obamas and the Klintoons are a nice cozy bunch now. God help us...

43 posted on 11/07/2012 12:48:56 AM PST by nutmeg
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To: goldstategop
ROMNEY. Corporate, stiff, flip flopper
McCain. Elderly, corrupt, craven bank( S&L, TARP )hack Senator.
HW Bush. Stiff, never would of save Reagan been elected. Lost his election to better populist Clinton.
Dole. Stiff. Senator. Hack.

If you aren't accessible, have a common glass of beer touch like Reagan, you're not going to be elected.

44 posted on 11/07/2012 12:53:40 AM PST by Leisler (A trillion+ dollars a year printing fiat script=2% GDP. What happens when it stops. Or doesn't?)
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To: af_vet_rr
We now have some inkling of what it was like to be in Rome in 216 B.C. when the news came about the disaster at Cannae. The Senate sent a message of thanks to the surviving consul from that battle, for not despairing of the Republic.

When Obama was elected in 2008 I was afraid the country would soon become a Venezuela or Zimbabwe, but the American people showed a lot of resilience (Tea Party, recapture of the House of Representatives from the Evil Party in 2010). We have survived 4 years, even if badly damaged. Presidents are usually less successful in their second term than in their first (Jefferson, Cleveland, Wilson, FDR, Nixon, and GWB come to mind). Can we mimimize the damage for four more years and hang on until 2017?

I don't know the answer. Maybe we have reached the point of no return. But for the moment I would like to think of the character in Monty Python who shouts "I'm not dead yet!"

45 posted on 11/07/2012 8:24:18 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TitansAFC

“The GOP has added so many issues to their list of “polarizing issues” that all that remains in use is Economic Issues, Taxes, National Defense, and Foreign Policy.
These issues are not the issues that motivate new voters to come to your party. They just don’t.”

Very good observation, and it doesn’t bode well for our side.

Having written what you said above, what ARE the “issues” that you believe “motivated” new voters to vote for the left, this time?


46 posted on 11/07/2012 10:13:08 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Only because the GOP can’t manage to win over Latino voters, most of whom are social conservatives and a natural fit for a conservative party”

Don’t worry.

Legalizing the illegals is going to be a top priority of Obama’s second term.

Then, in 2016, you can see how all these new “socially conservative Latinos” end up voting. Probably forever.

Sheesh....


47 posted on 11/07/2012 10:16:58 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

According to the polls, single women made up 23% of the electorate and went 70% to Obama. Their number one issue? The freedom to murder their unborn child in the womb.

I think that it’s time we stop surrendering issues to the left in the name of being non-polarizing that will come back to bite us in short order. The Left is not afraid to touch Social Issues, for example, knowing that the GOP will back down. The end result is that the Democrats win the issue within a few elections.

We need more issues, even if some of them are polarizing.

The Democrats have neutralized the tax issue by making a habit of adding a middle-class tax cut to every campaign. We have not adequately responded. Nobody I know believed Obama was going to raise their taxes, though many of them believed Romney would. These folks aren’t partisans, either.

For all the talk of the Democrats’ “old playbook,” I sure felt like Bob Dole was campaigning again this year.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 11:20:32 AM PST by TitansAFC (Marco Rubio/Bobby Jindal 2016! Sarah Palin is still my first choice...........)
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To: Road Glide
Then, in 2016, you can see how all these new “socially conservative Latinos” end up voting.

I can already see it in 2012 - and they end up voting Obama. Without the Latino vote Romney would be preparing his inauguration speech right now.

For decades now, poll after poll has shown that most Americans oppose illegal immigration. The GOP had decades to get a border fence built to stop the invasion and gain control over the nation's borders. They did nothing. Now it's too late - the demographics of states like California, Nevada, New Mexico are changed forever. Millions of Mexican Americans now vote, and vote Democrat. They'll soon be the largest voting bloc in the country. Either the GOP finds a way to appeal to them, or it goes the way of the Whigs.
49 posted on 11/07/2012 9:31:48 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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