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Mitt Romney has fewer votes than John McCain received in 2008! Republicans stayed home
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Posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:10 AM PST by Arthurio

Mitt Romney has fewer votes than John McCain received in 2008! Republicans stayed home!

As of right now, Romney has close to 56,000,000 votes nationwide. In 2008, John McCain had nearly 60,000,000 votes. (Per Wikipedia)

It looks like if all the people who voted for McCain turned out again and voted for Romney, we would have been rid of the Kenyan once and for all.

People stayed home.

It looks like all the Freepers who said they'd never vote for Mitt were not making idle threats


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To: over3Owithabrain

At about 12:45 last night I remembered the old movie where the fighter returns to his corner and his manager tells him, “OK, this next one is the round you go down in.”! How do YOU explain it? zero was losing Fla, Va, AND Ohio when all of a sudden they call it fo Zero AND QUIT SHOWING THE NUMBERS FROM THOSE STATES. Please, enlighten me. Why DID NO ONE say WTF?


101 posted on 11/07/2012 2:47:19 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: zeestephen

Not sure about that line of less conservatives. True that socialists might have come out in force where it counted. Nit the country is conservative. I think Romney was just the wrong guy to get nominated. He was a flip flopper. The gop was a bit divided on him. Enough to get the division we had here that cause many Romney supports to get banned before he on the nomination. GOP has problems that lead to the tea parties. They are far from fixed.


102 posted on 11/07/2012 2:50:01 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: wastoute

Come on I was watching returns all night. Obama was steadily ahead in OH all night by a couple points. FL and VA went back and forth.

We need to accept the truth here. I am certainly open to believe a lying fraud president would cheat. But proof and evidence are needed or show me where the numbers are strange.


103 posted on 11/07/2012 2:51:56 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: zeestephen

Not sure about that line of less conservatives in America. True that socialists might have come out in force where it counted. Nit the country is conservative. I think Romney was just the wrong guy to get nominated. He was a flip flopper. The GOP was a bit divided on him. Enough to get the division we had here that cause many Romney supporters to get banned before he was nominated. GOP has problems that lead to the tea parties. They are far from fixed.


104 posted on 11/07/2012 2:52:07 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

This was not a normal election. A lot of us thought that conservatives were smart enough to put petty political squabbles behind them and vote for the country, but I guess not.


105 posted on 11/07/2012 2:52:39 AM PST by Eva
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To: cherry
I'm suggesting that pub votes were tossed or changed...

While I did vote absentee ballot this year, I've never trusted that my vote would be received and counted. How do you really know?

I discovered a link to our state's sec. of state where you can type in your name, DOB and zip code and it will tell you when your application was sent to you, when the ballot was sent and then if it was returned and recorded by your clerk's office. Mine was

However, I received an email from a friend who checked on his and his shows not received.......I don't know what to make of that

106 posted on 11/07/2012 2:54:55 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: over3Owithabrain

How many years did it take for the 100,00 votes Daly fabricated for JFK to come out? How many years did it take for LBJs rigged elections to come out? Do you have that kind of patience and/or time?


107 posted on 11/07/2012 2:55:59 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Arthurio

I work with white blue collar men here in Iowa. Most all of them hate Obama....but they seem to hate Romney too.


108 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:31 AM PST by DungeonMaster (If a man will not work, then neither shall he eat.)
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To: Eva

Yes that is true because I was fighting for candidates in the primary who were attacked in here by other supporters of different people. So we were not lock and step. Then everyone held grudges. And many could not bury it after the primary ended. I ought to know as I was strongly considering Virgil Goode until September. People have choices, but they don’t want to march conservatism down the field a few yards more, but want it all or nothing and sometimes it is not possible. The problem is Romney was a mess to figure out. Nominating him was not the answer. But once he was then it was time to follow him and many did not. I just wanted Obama out and some just wanted a conservative candidate with no chance.


109 posted on 11/07/2012 3:03:13 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: over3Owithabrain

PS. I was watching, too. The GOP (I can’t even refer to “our guy” by name) was steadily closing the gaps in Ohio and Fla. when they GAVE the election to zero. From 10% down at 35% of the vote in Ohio to within less than 1,000 votes at 74% (remember y=mx+b?) and the same in Fla. GOP down 20,000 votes with 10% STILL OUT and that was all panhandle. The GOP had it by a hair, maybe, but they had it. Then all of a sudden they call it for zero and QUIT SHOWING THE NUMBERS. You can buy it if you want but I don’t. Do you really believe all those folks identified as GOP voters on Monday decided they would vote zero on Tuesday? Really?


110 posted on 11/07/2012 3:03:46 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I personally don’t believe that many GOP leaning voters stayed home. I believe it is the demographic shift Pat Buchanan has been warning us about for years. It has finally kicked in and even sooner than he predicted. If trends continue, this country is finished, and may be already.


111 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:49 AM PST by MachIV
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To: wastoute
2008: 65,182,692 for Obama, and 57,212,032 for McCain.

2012: 58,857,426 for Obama, and 56,551,333 for Romney.

Even a McCain-like turnout would have lost the popular vote to Obama

112 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:15 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: jocon307
I am sick to my stomach about this whole thing.

I voted in a predominantly democrat area, and the lines were small. I knew so many dems that are not enthused about Zero.

I am absolutely stunned at this result. I will however not stop fighting the good fight. I will defend my faith and my country.

113 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:35 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mozilla
I think it's open borders.

If it's true that the white birth rate is going down, while minority birth rates are going up, it's the open borders that's where the growth in votes is coming from.

It's probably not as much a shift from producers to takers, but an uncontrolled influx of new takers.

-PJ

114 posted on 11/07/2012 3:17:20 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Arthurio

Why are the netwroks allowed to report ‘results’ 3 hours before the polls close in the Central, Mountain, and Pacific time zones???

I don’t think that should happen. It discourages some voters from going to the polls.

How many Romney votes were electronically recorded as Obama votes??? Too many incidents of such happening to make me at all comfortable.


115 posted on 11/07/2012 3:19:18 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Political Junkie Too
Taxes on the wealth you spent a lifetime earning will now go to someone who just recently got here.

-PJ

116 posted on 11/07/2012 3:20:37 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: wastoute

Does anyone else find it very strange in an election that was supposed to be close that Obama heads back home to play basketball instead of campaigning like the other candidates have done in the past?


117 posted on 11/07/2012 3:21:09 AM PST by growingpains
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To: Arthurio
I am done being even the least bit politically correct, even with the possibility of getting banned or suspended here at FR. So here it goes.

I do not think there was a big “no show” among conservatives. I think most decided, like me and many other here, to take a big bite of that dung sandwich and vote once more for a RINO. There is just one major problem and that is demographics.

1] Our country is no longer a peaceful, freedom loving, individualistic society. The advent of technology and communications has seen to that. Cell phones and the personal computer have allowed us to have instantaneous access to both the good and bad in life. We are no longer islands that can be alone and untouchable. We have lost our individualism as a whole.

2] Minorities. The Negro population is just under 13%. Due to abortion and other factors they may not move much from that percentage but they vote as a monolithic entity. As a whole, they do not share the same values as the people who built and developed this country for the first two centuries. They do not like Caucasians and they transmit that feeling every day. We try to ignore that and say those that do are the outliers but that is not the case. They work as a monolithic group, much the same as the Muslims. We may find some who are ”moderate” but they never condemn the actions or words of the ”radicals” that spout racist jargon and swear to kill/enslave whitey.

3] South Of The Border Types (SOTBT). about 16 or 17% of the population (guessing) Hispanic is a made up word and I refuse to use it. These people are mostly raised in third world crap holes and what little education they have has been the repetitive mantra of how the United States has taken everything from the world by force and thus the need to get some back.

They have no clue as to real history nor their own failings as a society because the despots who run there countries will not let that be taught.

They come here as Socialists, or worse, to get jobs, but more importantly to get as much free stuff as they can take. Living 30 to a small rented house, great standards from the cardboard huts they had to live in down there, and getting most of their money under the table they can save a lot of cash that can be sent back to those third world dumps. They get amnesty, citizenship, and then can vote as another monolithic block to maintain all those freebies.

The bigger problem with these people is they procreate like rabbits. They will overwhelm the majority Caucasians in just another few years, and voting with the Negroes will ensure our fall into Communism.

4] Caucasian liberals. They have allowed us to become the disaster we have now by making all the unconstitutional policies that have allowed all the minorities to get the free stuff via the outright theft of our money via illegal taxes.

We have allowed these white liberals to come into being by letting the Communists take over our schools and our governments. That allowed the indoctrination of communist principles to our children and has now created enough of them to make the tipping point we saw last night.

5] Once the minorities gain control they will start to eliminate the majority. Just as in Africa, where minority tribes mass murdered majority tribes it can happen here. The New Black Panthers have a voiced and written policy condoning the outright murder of Caucasians, without so much as a peep from supposed main stream Negroes. LaRaza (sp?) also.

I will not spam FR with any more writings like this but as of last night this is my conclusion. I hope not to get banned as I love posting here now and then but the reality of the world must be seen.

118 posted on 11/07/2012 3:22:27 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: wastoute

I think this is important, and I think FoxNews will cover for the RINO Republican Establishment. Romney was a poor candidate, a Mormon, who would not draw enough of the Christian and Conservative vote as John McCain. Sadly, there will be cover from the RINO Establishment machine on this one...


119 posted on 11/07/2012 3:25:33 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: JCBreckenridge

Maybe we should stop listening to the folks demanding that we elect Romney because he’s electible and start listening to the folks who warned us about him in the first place.

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Best idea I’ve heard tonight!


120 posted on 11/07/2012 3:27:37 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: cherry
And Lil ol Bambi just was way to comfortable. He just knew he was going to win.
121 posted on 11/07/2012 3:28:14 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: Arthurio

http://www.newshounds.us/2010/10/31/gop_civill_war_heats_up_stopping_palin_a_priority_for_gop_leaders.php

Nothing more to say......they’d rather stop Her than the Won....and they did


122 posted on 11/07/2012 3:29:53 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

It is that simple, but we haven’t done that, the further left the Dems move the further left the GOPe moves. Its disgusting.

I left the GOP, I’m sick of dating my rapist (which is how they treat conservatives). I’m not saying I will NEVER vote for another Republican, but they have to do much better and that won’t happen until people stand up and oust the idiots in charge of the GOP.

FWIW, I live in a solid red state and I DID vote for a Conservative who is pro-life and pro-marriage, and on my ballot, Virgil Goode. It didn’t affect my state’s outcome any but I will sleep better knowing that I stood on my principles which is the only thing I have left.


123 posted on 11/07/2012 3:34:12 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: reaganaut
I left the GOP, I’m sick of dating my rapist (which is how they treat conservatives).

Standing and applauding...someone needs to pick that up as a tag line to keep it visible to all...

124 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:12 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: reaganaut

Same here. :)

Vote for Cruz too, so I know what it’s like to vote for a winner this election.


125 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:21 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: reaganaut

Same here. :)

Vote for Cruz too, so I know what it’s like to vote for a winner this election.


126 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:26 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Political Junkie Too; Liz; sickoflibs; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale
I think it's open borders.

If it's true that the white birth rate is going down, while minority birth rates are going up, it's the open borders that's where the growth in votes is coming from.

It's probably not as much a shift from producers to takers, but an uncontrolled influx of new takers.

And the numbers of imported leftist voters seems destined to increase more every year.

The solution, according to the "experts" on Fox News? The GOP should pander to Hispanics, i. e., amnesty. That worked out really well for McCain.

127 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:51 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: funfan

not my fault, blame the GOPe who shoved RINO Romney down our throats.


128 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:51 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Mozilla

I don’t know the solution to get both the 3rd party conservatives to join in with the GOP except nominating a conservative.

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It it time for the GOP to go the way of the Whigs. Not a 3rd party, but a NEW party.

I knew my guy didn’t have a chance, it didn’t matter in my state anyway I don’t live in a swing state or even close. I bow before Christ, not any man or political party and it is HIM that I have to answer to and as a Christian I could not vote for either Mitt or Obama or anyone else who supports unBiblical policies like abortion and gay marriage.


129 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:39 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: zeestephen
"On the other hand, minorities and white Leftists continue to grow steadily."

The lefts goal has always been to create a dependent underclass....they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams....

What put them over the top was a aggregation of African American, Hispanics, many being 1st or 2nd generation immigrants, single mothers/women and the non-married young. They now believe it is acceptable to take the wealth from others and distributed it among themselves.

Unfortunately the ideals of individualism, freedom and sacrifice are over....it now is about how to take advantage of others for one's own gain....and they now have the critical mass to accomplish such through the ballot box....This might work for a while....but when the cup runs dry...all hell is gonna brake loose...

IMHO....the nation we once knew is over...
130 posted on 11/07/2012 3:59:46 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: ansel12

It looks like the freepers that said that Romney would hurt turnout, were correct. This took millions of disgruntled conservatives, not a handful of freepers.
***That, and a combination of 47%ers, single women, hispanics, energized blacks & liberals add up to a new electorate.

The question about Free Republic will be, are we a conservative site, or a republican site? If FR endorsed a “lying, baby-killing, gun-grabbing statist” (JR’s words), then WTF?


131 posted on 11/07/2012 3:59:48 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Arthurio
"It looks like all the Freepers who said they'd never vote for Mitt were not making idle threats"

BS. Every single FReeper helped, FRiend.

The final outcome was predicted ... but ignored; and how those
who accurately predicted it ... truly, truly wish we were wrong.

132 posted on 11/07/2012 4:00:45 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: noiseman

Step back.

Democrats won nearly everything in statewide races where Obama won that state.

Here is Pennsylvania, we split the vote very often, voting for the Democrat at the top, but Republicans lower down.

This cycle, every statewide race, AG, Auditor, Treasurer, etc were all won by Democrats with almost the exact same vote totals as Obama.

There is a fishy smell.


133 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:46 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Diogenesis

Hey Brother, good to see you again.

we were not only ignored but trashed and you are right, I think we all wished we were wrong.


134 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:28 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Mozilla; Jim Robinson
Rigid, totally inflexible rule: Nominate an actual conservative (social, fiscal, military and foreign policy) or pay the price.

Now that His LameDuckness has been re-elected by GOP-E rank elitist stupidity and stubbornness in thinking Muffy's Trust Fund is the only political issue and by the awesome vote-stealing skills of the Demonrats, the conservative movement will reunite in opposition to Obozo. Romney and his sorry ilk will be ignored again as they should be. What will conservatives and the GOP rank and file DO with the opportunity to regroup?

Will it still be beneath the GOP's dignity to try and peel off black and Latino Democrats who oppose abortion and fudge-packing or to abandon the persistent and willful alienation of Latinos? Is the GOP willing to be a LOT more aggressive in attacking the Demonrat agenda? To investigate the urban vote fraud machines and motor voter and the habitual "loss" of votes cast and habitual "discovery" of uncounted Demonrat votes? Can the GOP develop issue discipline and message discipline? Can Republicans get the message that the future of freedom depends on taking politics at LEAST as seriously as our enemies (not our "opponents" but our ENEMIES in BOTH parties).

Those of us who, out of principle, REFUSED to vote for trash like Romney were reviled by many here as Obama supporters. Well, we can all now get back to the vital task of rebuilding the GOP as a genuine and disciplined and effective political movement and convert unconvinced Americans on issues and principles---one voter at a time, the old-fashioned way. That method elected Reagan and it will elect our future but presently unknown conservatives.

One last thing: BUYING the GOP nomination with corrupt Wall Street $$$ should be as despised a tactic as child molesting and recognized and punished by GOP voters as such.

135 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:49 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
While I did vote absentee ballot this year, I've never trusted that my vote would be received and counted. How do you really know?

Never vote by mail. The USPS is unionized. Board of Election office workers are unionized. Always keep your vote in you possession until it's cast.

136 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:21 AM PST by Hero
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To: over3Owithabrain

“They hate rich white religious guys”

I think this should be modified to...who aren’t Catholic or Protestant...as this group doesn’t believe in the Constitution or religious freedom.


137 posted on 11/07/2012 4:43:06 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 5thGenTexan
They will put up another RINO in 2016.

It will be a new and revitalized candidate in 2016, but deep down still the same ol' Jebbie.

138 posted on 11/07/2012 4:47:34 AM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Political Junkie Too; Liz; sickoflibs; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ...

To paraphrase Moochelle:

For the second time in my adult life, I’m disgusted with my country...

Well, half of the country, anyway.


139 posted on 11/07/2012 5:09:09 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Arthurio

DON’T ANY OF YOU BLAME ME... I CAVED IN A SUPPORTED MITT 100%... EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THAT HE WAS A PROGRESSIVE LIAR AND A LOSER... BUT I TOOK ANOTHER ONE FOR THE TEAM... I AM NO LONGER ON THE REPUBLICAN TEAM. THAT PARTY LIED TO ALL OF US FOR THE PAST YEAR AND THEY LIED MORE TO US YESTERDAY THAN OBAMA HAS... AND EVERYTHING OUT OF obama’s MOUTH IS A LIE!

LLS


140 posted on 11/07/2012 5:22:01 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Arthurio

I didn’t vote for Mittens.

Some conservatives did but I couldn’t stand his liberal views and I felt one way or another nothing much would change if he won.

So we are back to square one.


141 posted on 11/07/2012 5:34:23 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TigerClaws
The voters who never have worked and never will work have increased to the point where they own the Nation.

America is facing the death faced by all democracies. We aren't in a republic now, The Constitution is dead.

142 posted on 11/07/2012 5:42:14 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: A CA Guy

“Why would so many who should vote Republican in this case not vote?”

Because there were two leftists at the top of the ticket?


143 posted on 11/07/2012 5:50:37 AM PST by Psalm 144 (See Psalm 2 for final election results.)
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To: Arthurio
No, it looks like Republican votes were either not counted, or Republican votes were counted as Obama votes.

Republican turnout was record high.

144 posted on 11/07/2012 5:56:59 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: NFHale; Political Junkie Too; Liz; sickoflibs; Impy; stephenjohnbanker
To paraphrase Moochelle: For the second time in my adult life, I’m disgusted with my country... Well, half of the country, anyway

When I started traveling around the world after the 2000 election, I was surprised how much many Europeans disapproved of the election of GWB. They are probably very happy now:

Kremlin Cheers Obama Election

145 posted on 11/07/2012 6:03:38 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
And look at where staying home has gotten us. Not just a president. A complete change to this country.

In 50 or 100 years will the people of this new nation celebrate November 6, 2012 the way we once celebrated July 4?

146 posted on 11/07/2012 6:04:23 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; NFHale; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; ...

Arthur Wildfire! March on another thread: “Were Christians divided over the Mormon faith? “

Well some conservatives must have sat out. Many since Romney did much better among indies (right?).

Whether it was because of his liberalism or religion I don’t know.

If it’s his religion that pisses me off. That’s would be retarded. Please let it be his boring establishment liberalism or something.

Hurricanes and he’s a Mormon. Really? Can this really be the reason? New Jersey and New York, Obama did better than in 2008 in terms of percentage.

Anyone who voted for Obama cause there was a hurricane and Christie kissed his foot is too dumb to live.

Anyone who stayed home rather than vote for a Mormon when they would vote for a “Christian” RINO like McCain is as well.


147 posted on 11/07/2012 6:13:23 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: Impy; All
“Anyone who voted for Obama cause there was a hurricane and Christie kissed his foot is too dumb to live.”

My public school teracher sister said last week, “Sandy is helping Obama.” She was right. Women saw that sh*t and lapped it up.

Christie is a traitor, period. May he lose reelection in an embarrassing manner.

148 posted on 11/07/2012 6:30:32 AM PST by GOPsterinMA
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

Democracy is the theory that the people know what they want,
and should get it good and hard.
—H.L. Milken


149 posted on 11/07/2012 6:43:29 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; justiceseeker93; Perdogg; AuH2ORepublican; ...

I would maybe vote for black democrat Cory Booker (his likley opponent) just to beat him if I lived in NJ.

I hate to say it. I was never in loooooove with him like many idiots but I defended his fat ass many times. WHOOPSIE. My bad everyone who said from the start he was a RINO. You was right, I were wrong.

Jersey GOP are slime. We should primary him but he will win the primary.

BRET Schundler, that was a conservative man who was elected mayor of a mostly Black and Hispanic city by a landslide 2 or 3 times. Sounds like Presidential timber right? Who better to run against Obama in 2008?

Well he could not win The NJ Governorship over that Queero McSkeevy in 2001 after the Jersey GOP kneecapped him.

See Jersey City which is heavilly democrat elected him several times but he was too conservative for Jersey Republicans!


150 posted on 11/07/2012 6:55:15 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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