Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obama’s radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big… and indeed he has.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt “diss’d” being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.
Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nation’s ideology and culture.
Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
I believe there was huge anti-Morman voting throughout this election.
Well gee, my candidate didn’t win or do as I wanted so I’m going to stay home and pout!
No matter the damage to the country.
In my view, that is outright sin...and you can that THAT to the bank.
Ummm...I’m an Evangelical and I didn’t stay home. I voted, but I voted for a Conservative Christian - Virgil Goode (who was on my ballot not a write in) rather than vote for either Obama or Romney. I know several other Evangelicals who did the same.
Of all my Evangelical friends I only have ONE who stayed home and she lives in Utah so figured there was no point.
Sure, blame the Christians again. I know hundreds of evangelicals who could not wait to vote for Romney and against Obama.
Our pastor voiced concern about Romney making mormonism more mainstream.
Funny, he didn’t care when 80% of the congregation voted for Obama and his Black Liberation Theology and muslim leanings.
Amen!
Voter turnout was very high in R areas and very low in D areas. The numbers make no sense.
Once again, the “I’m taking my toys and going home” crowd...
just like my kids when they were 4 years old...
I knew many who stayed home. knuckle heads a lot of them miss it.
Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel.
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One other point, Romney would have done just as much to persecute Christians since he hates Evangelicals just as much (been there done that).
And the Gospel will not be thwarted, just as it wasn’t during the early church and the Roman persecutions.
HAVE FAITH IN GOD, NOT MAN.
Romney did not shore up his base. But it was more than evangelicals because if they stayed home 4 years ago than who stayed home this time?
Vote totals:
2008:
OBama 69,297,997
McCain: 59,597,520
2012
Obama: 54,773,837
Romney 53,716,689
Looks like a whole lot of voters stayed home.
If this article is true, it was the Mormon hating that did us in.
My pastor got up the Sunday before the election day and did a sermon on how Mormanism is a cult. I am leaving this church as I think electing a Muslim is a worse sin. I was appalled
2 Tim 2:3-4 -
3 Join with me in suffering, like a good soldier of Christ Jesus. 4 No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in civilian affairs, but rather tries to please his commanding officer.
I refuse to compromise my CHRISTIAN FAITH and vote for Romney. I am beholden to my Commanding Officer - Jesus Christ alone.
How was Romney who is also not a Christian the to hold up Christian values?
I don’t think that an evangelical should feel that this loss was upon his shoulders. The GOP was not courting conservative votes in this election. They were courting independents with a left center policy, not knowing that there was already a candidate running with a far left policy that everyone already knew about.
We as a nation got what we deserve. The GOP just happened to really get what they deserved. I wonder whose “turn” it is next time.
Obama thanks you for your vote, comrade.
The GOP-e thinks Evangelicals are dumb hicks, but they surely can’t win when even a fraction of that base stays home. Perhaps they should reconsider making Evangelicals sit at the back of the bus and then expecting them to show up at the polls.
Yes, Rove, Krauthammer and Barone, I mean you.
Electoral fraud.
children will be murdered, women raped, towns destroyed, perhaps widespread famine, riots, Israel destroyed, and then please go tell God you did it in HIS name?.......
you will be judged and not pleasantly, for your arrogance and your fake self righteousness....
Hey, did any of you guys stay home??
Likely, he would have been unhappy about a Catholic candidate as well.
“I voted for a Conservative Christian - Virgil Goode....rather than vote for either Obama or Romney. I know several other Evangelicals who did the same.”‹br>
Brilliant! You have believed the lies of Satan - and blew our last chnace of turning this nation around - we will not make it to 2016.‹br>
I’m an Evangelical and know the Bible inside and out - do you not think that God could use an unbeliever like Mitt Romney to do His work here? If that is what you think then YOU don’t know your Bible and shame on you.
Give me a choice between a Mormon and a Muslim and, all other things being the same, I’ll take the Mormon any day. They do less beheading of Christians.
I’m disgusted with my “Christian” friends who put their government “god” over everything else and voted for a guy who supports robbery (involuntary redistribution of one person’s wealth to another person) and murder (abortion, infanticide, murder by betrayal ala Chris Stevens, Tyrone Woods, etc in Benghazi, political murders, etc), and is already known to have committed both perjury and fraud just to get on the ballots (according to the Hawaii state registrar’s legal responses). The thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy, and it sounds to me like Obama’s resume fits that bill - yet supposed “Christians” supported him in even with all those acts clearly known.
The salt is fit to be trampled under, and Obama’s Islamist friends (that he’s been arming...) will be more than happy to do the honors for him. We reap what we sow.
Evangelicals stayed home........my ass. What a load. Anyone for a scapegoat, eh?
No...this was a purely racial thing...
More then half our congregation is black, as is he...
This was an excuse to cover up his own racism.
post #16-— you are 110% correct .
Gee, thanks.
I don’t believe any of the reasons we are being fed. I believe Romney won the election. Votes were electronically transferred to Obama. 2008 was a coup.
The problem is that most Christians find the fundamental evil of the left/liberals very attractive.Fundamentally the left is about the redistributionist welfare state. What is the sins of envy, jealousy, covetousness, theft and state idolatry is seen as love, light, charity and goodness. Until we quit focusing on peripherals like abortion and marriage and address what the Dems are really about we will lose the Christian vote. Or not get a large enough share. They say sure abortion is bad but so is not taking away the golden talents from the man who has five and giving them to those who have fewer.
It is not a trade off. We’ll accept abortion because they are giants of charity and love. NO! The Dems are both baby killers and raging with costing other people’s wealth. The Dems are for same-sex marriage and idolaters of the state. If people should look to the government to meet their needs and solve their problems, then they worship government as god.
There is no worse offender than the Catholic bishops. They are very big proponents of the envy/jealousy/covetous/theft state. They provide enormous support and votes for Dems while the so forcefully take a stand against abortion.
The Dems are not sin plus virtue but evil compounded by evil.
“Perhaps they should reconsider making Evangelicals sit at the back of the bus and then expecting them to show up at the polls.”
Tell me this sad story 4 years from now when Obamacare is fully instituted, electricity and gas prices are higher, when the Supreme Court upholds gay marriage.
Yeah tell me how great the Evangelicals are then.
The only faint silver lining in this whole fiasco is that RINOism, fake conservatism, was repudiated. Would that the GOP could learn.
Well, probably there is no reason the marriage of various factions in the GOP to keep going. Perhaps, with many small parties, one of them can take the Democrats in 2052.
“I’m an Evangelical and know the Bible inside and out - do you not think that God could use an unbeliever like Mitt Romney to do His work here? If that is what you think then YOU don’t know your Bible and shame on you.”
And Obama is a believer?
Whatever ... all the anecdotal reports yesterday ... call ins to talk shows ... indicated HUGE asnti-obama .. pro conservative (not necesarilly pro Romney) turnout.
"Jim, I'm here at ______ and it's 8AM and the line is HUGE ... I've never seen this beforte! We all have a jovial get rid of obama attitude"
All day yesterday ...
My tin foil's on .. and it doesn't make a bgit of difference.
I am more angry now than ever ... not because zero is back in for four more years, but that what I thought was complacency (he never showed up for any debate, IMO), and all that rumor about the Hawaiian mansion ... we have been SO snookered.
Or perhaps a lot of Republican votes are "missing". Could it be that the real fraud was not dead voting, duplicate voting, or illegal voting, but instead reducing Romney votes through lost ballots, broken voting machines, and voter intimidation?
Obama thanks you...
Stupid is as stupid does...but I’m being redundant.
Were early votes for Republicans disposed of? Were machines front-loaded with thousands of democrat votes?
Run a RINO and conservatives stayed home...
Gee, who coulda foreseen that one?
/sarcasm
Also—look at the races further down the ticket.
One example—the NC governor R candidate ran four points ahead of Romney. Why?
Aside from the fraudsters, they are the reason Obama won the first time, they are the reason last night came out the way it did, and will be the first to wail and demand other people pay for their stupidity.
Blaming anyone else is ridiculous, unless you thing the circular firing squad needs to be called out yet again to further fractionate the Conservatives who endure.
“And Obama is a believer?”‹br>
No - but he is obviously being used as a tool by Satan - not that anyone is ever out of the reach of God - unless they want to be - and Obama has sold his soul - witness his unashamed embrace of the slaughter of babies.‹br>
THAT is what the Roney-haters have given us.
I would never stay home. There are too many important local elections.
Get a grip...Goode voters had no effect on the election. Had they voted for Romney; Mitt still would have lost.
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