Skip to comments.Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home
Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obamas radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big and indeed he has.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt dissd being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.
Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Natures God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nations ideology and culture.
Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
“...we chose politics over God by nominating Romney in the first place.”
Point taken. For the record - I suppported Michelle Bachman - but she was gone by the time my state voted - I pulled the lever for Newt.
Wonder what would have happened if Sarah had thrown her hat in? I understand her first priority was to her family and raising a Special-needs child is a priveledge she couldn’t turn her back on.
The tone of your comments are so cheerful, so smug. You sound like a democrat. This is a funeral, not a wedding.
Feel free to get in a last word. I have nothing more to say to you other than go screw yourself.
I have a couple of moron relatives and friends that have no clue as to what's in store for this country. They've either been asleep the last few years or refuse to admit the failings of Obama.
As the famous Rev. Wright once said, " No, No, No, it's God Damn America, it's in the Bible."
The Mormon men-gods in SLC were hedging their bets...
They knew it was Harry or Willard...
They hoped for but knew they couldnt have both...
so just in case they were disowning their connection to Willard...
Them mormon gods dont have a lot of confidence in their own slaves do they ???
“Screw you, smug asshole.
Hell, I bet you voted for Obama.”
That is the thing I truly admire about the good fine supporters of that good fine nominee, Bishop Willard Romney. Their courtesy, eloquence, positive attitudes and most of all their intellectual depth and logical precision. These things make the GOP the success that it is today.
I was watching old episodes of Heart of the Matter last week and Shawn was asked what amazes him most about Mormons and he replied “the blindness and arrogance”. I know you, like me are familiar with both of those.
The same things amaze me about so-called conservatives who supported Romney and pushed the facts aside and now are attacking those of us who warned them this would happen and voted our conscience because we didn’t cave or ‘fall in line’. We learned the HARD way what blindness and arrogance gets you and God had a serious wake up call for both of us from the Mormon cult. All we can do is pray that God gives these ‘conservatives’ the same type of wake up call.
Republicans who did not care enough about this country to vote to stop obama will be shocked at what will befall us during the next 4 yrs. They don’t care that obama won.
It’s impssible to talk to people who don’t care that obama. They’re worse than dems.
Good try, Nana, but remember the Bible speaks of those who go after doctrines that ‘tickle the ears’ and Mormonism SOUNDS nice to the untrained ears but contains the doctrines of devils.
double dumbass to you. mitt and the eGOP (and apparently you) did all you could to snuff the base out. but then reject the base and you only get the waffle center. Enjoy your president for the next four years wyrd.
Many good conservatives did support 0bama and there is no evidence that any third party received any more than the regular odd ball votes. the eGOP tried to put lipstick on a pig and tell us he was a conservative and the mittbots piled on.
I know, fairly well, about ten evangelicals. All but three stayed home and would not vote for a Mormon. The third really had a hard time voting for Romney but did so from pressure from his wife.
For the record - I supported Michelle Bachman - but she was gone by the time my state voted - I pulled the lever for Newt.
Wonder what would have happened if Sarah had thrown her hat in? I understand her first priority was to her family and raising a Special-needs child is a priveledge she couldnt turn her back on.
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I would have loved to see Sarah run, but I do understand her family commitments and to be honest, after the way Republicans (including a few from Romney’s last campaign) defamed her and her family, it would be hard for ANYONE to get back into that fray.
I supported Bachman, then Cain, then Newt and by the time my state voted, there were only a few left. It was frustrating and disheartening. I never had a ‘perfect’ candidate in mind, I just wanted a semi-conservative if not a Conservative one. This election has, in an indirect way, made me trust God more because my eyes were opened to the real problems on the GOP side in a way they never had been before.
I’ve known Nana for YEARS and there is no way she would ever vote for Obama, she is naturally cheerful and always manages to find the light in a gloomy day.
So lighten up Francis...quit whining and get ready to fight.
But since you want to play this little game of mind reading, after looking at your posts, I am convinced that you are NOT a Christian, but a fiscal conservative who is concerned only with this world and is either an agnostic or athiest and thinks Romney would save the US. More libertarian than actual conservative, you probably adopt the view that if gays don’t flaunt it you don’t care what they do in their bedroom, that medical marijuana is a good idea and care more about the stock market than souls.
How’d I do?
And before you get a nasty with me, remember YOU started the name calling and assumptions. Do unto others....
I still think Glenn Beck thinks it is him.
Check out my response to that nastybot a couple of posts up from this. ;)
Oh I dont doubt that...
Republicans who did not care enough about this country to vote to stop obama will be shocked at what will befall us during the next 4 yrs. They dont care that obama won.
Its impssible to talk to people who dont care that obama. Theyre worse than dems.
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Well said, that is a very good description of the GOP elite who promoted Romney the RINO and shoved him down our throats. They didn’t care if Obama won, if they did they would have given us a decent candidate.
Yeah everything is back to normal...
The evangelical bigots ...Sometimes I wonder whose side they are really on.
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We are on GOD’s side.
BTW, ‘zilla good ST reference on the reply to this post.
The one hint I'll give is that you are far, far off-base.
I have never denied that Romney was not the best nominee. But after the primary was over, it was our duty to support him to prevent Obama from being reelected.
For the record, I voted yesterday for Ryan/Romney and Todd Akin. I am NOT a one legged conservative. I do not play this brutish game of claiming I can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. It was beyond stupid to let Romney be our nominee. Obama’s media crew along with his rented anarchists that poisoned the national waters on Romney by playing class warfare in OccupyWallStreet street theater.
At the same time ‘big’ business is portrayed as the devil's workshop, while Obama and his crew sup with the Warren Buffets of the world.
Liberalism is our enemy and the majority of Americans suffer varying degrees of that mindset. How about the over representation of Catholics that wrote Barry's agenda? Why they penned his social justice agenda and probably are on the road to sainthood.
Strange isn't it that Harry Reid a Mormon keeps his power and Mitt Romney would may live his personal life like a conservative but speaks with a forked tongue promoting liberal ideology lost big time. And you have the nerve to jut out your jaw and accuse people for so called actions that you have not demonstrated any proof exist.
I think you picked the perfect FR name.
I’m just basing it on your posts here and I doubt I’m that far off, if I were you wouldn’t use the language you do, nor would you attack a sweet Christian lady like you have.
wow, You said something so ignorant and you claim Emma Peel as your moniker - for shame.
But after the primary was over, it was our duty to support him to prevent Obama from being reelected.
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Our duty is to GOD not man. It wasn’t our duty to support a lying, liberal, evil cultist.
It is the GOPe fault we got Romney and you helped get Obama re-elected.
Oh, bull pies.
It is people like you that put a liberal called Romney as the nominee.
Take responsibility for what you did, and then get off the phone.
Oh, of course you do.
It would have been better if you had just been honest with your mormonISM, (psst that’s not one of their values - honesty)
Goode had no chance. You might as well have voted for Mickey Mouse. The ONLY two candidates with any kind of chance were Obama or Romney. You blew it, you punted, and because of people like you, Romney missed out on a viable vote which would have given him the edge.
So your ten people 40% voted, that’s about how many people voted overall.......so no big deal, your friends are just average.
There were only two viable candidates with any chance of winning. Obama or Romney. You either support a Marxist, or you don’t. Any other vote is a wasted vote. No other candidate got their message out to convince others of their platform. Because of anti-Mormon bigots, now we get Obama to decide all kinds of things like the Supreme Court nominees, etc.
As Drudge’s numbers stand now, Obama’s vote was down 13.5% and the Republican ticket down 4.2%. Overall votes were down 9.2%.
That’s 9.5 million Obama voters staying home and 2.5 million McCain voters.
It does seem like whoever stayed home in 2008 did it again this time, plus a lot more. Out of the new batch of stay-at-home voters, 80% of them were disgruntled Obama voters. So Romney won the turnout depression contest by a landslide, but it wasn’t enough.
F’off. What a moronic reply.
Because of people like you the GOPe nominated a guy worse than McCain - received fewer votes.
Stop blaming people who are real conservatives and start putting the blame where it belongs the idiot self proclaimed conservatives who screamed “Romney is the only guy who can win”.
So f’off and next time listen to the people who know what the hell is going on.
#1...I didn't know that those who portend to be "gods" do so only on Sundays...as if you could compartmentalize that...
#2...I didn't know that you could compartmentalize character -- as if the arrogance & hubris contained in the personal identity disorder of thinking you are divine had NOTHING whatsoever to do with leadership. Totally ludicrous.
#3... I didn't know that being THE leader of the free world apparently had NOTHING to do with discernment -- or lack of it...gullibility to deception & vulnerability to deception is apparently a useless quality when determining the leader of the free world, eh???
Many evangelicals seemed content to let it be obama. So you F' off.
Nope, Romney lost because the GOPE and people like you pushed him on the conservative Republicans.
Take the blame - it’s on you.
I reiterate yet again, I did not support or vote for Romney in the primary. People that did are responsible for him being the nominee, and people who sat out the general election are responsible for 0 being the president.
So God tossed us a direct rival to him -- a divine 'god in embryo' -- so that we could have a human political messiah who would 'save us' -- and thereby steal even MORE glory from God, Himself...and we blew it, eh?
Wow! What a narrative from a Christian!
You know, talk show host Dennis Prager was saying today that the way to save the world is thru the United States.
The only difference 'tween Prager's values soteriology and many FREEPERs' political soteriology is that Prager usurps God-as-Savior and interjects the U.S....while many FREEPERs usurp God-as-Savior and interjected a would-be political messiah named Mitt..
God, in His sovereignty, would have NONE of it...
And neither will He have Prager's U.S.-as-savior crap...
Jesus is the ONLY Savior...we don't need the U.S. to be the savior; we don't need Mitt as political messiah; and we don't need the Mormons baptizing millions of others as saviors of the dead...
Those are ALL counterfeit saviors...and the sooner people stop putting faith in them the better!!!!
You absolutely do NOT despise Obama. I live out in the PA countryside and would have WALKED the 3 miles to the church where I vote, if necessary. I know plenty of liberals around here, and I have to deal with them everyday. They hate Romney as much as you do. They are thrilled with Obama's victory and can't wait for gay marriage, obamacare and taxpayer funded abortions.
My relationships with some family members and long-time friends are strained because of Obama. I despise everything he stands for. I can't even discuss politics with my own sister because she voted for obama...I'm totally fed up with all the liberals around here.
You should live in PA where you would fit right in with your hatred of Romney... They believe as you do.... that he is evil incarnate.
On I see so in your feeble little mind Romney the liberal was better than obama the liberal.....ok sweetie.....now run along and play out side.
You blind, blind fool...
Romney was picked as the standard bearer and I support that. I support that as so much is at stake - supreme court nominees. I used to think that the GOP was the intelligent alternative to Marxism - but seeing the anti-Mormon bigotry, I am not so sure.
So when the new taxes for Obamacare kicks in in January, I'll blame you. You and your kind had the power to stop it, but chose to hate the GOP standard bearer, rather than the Marxist.
That’s okay because I despise you. You, and any others that did not vote for Romney, are my enemy. You are responsible for what happens in the next four years.
I hope you, and all your “sweet christian friends” are miserable. In fact, I think you’re just miserable people in general.
That person cursing you with the F word for giving your opinion is a typical democrat. That’s how they talk around here in PA. No class whatsoever...
You are both right. I’m sick of reading comments from liberal nieces and nephews on Facebook who agree with these Romney haters on FR.
(Well, guess what? Breaking news for you...Your last pick didn't go the distance, either! If you somehow thought that making it thru the campaign falsely equated to "going the distance," you're sadly wrong...Your lack pick, in order to have lasted the difference, needed to be in the WH come 2013...)
So...tell us how it feels for that pragmatic utilitarian political relativist ethic to have worked for ya? Did it "last the distance???"
Is that what you've now taught all your kids & grandkids? Oh, when the going gets tough...cave...compromise...vote for pro-abort lite vs. pro-abort with the extra calories...as the 'lesser' of two evils...
Did your relativism get your somebody in the White House??? What did it buy?
Romney was picked as the standard bearer and I support that...
And most ironic is that you reference somebody supported by relativistic voters as a "standard bearer"...And Romney -- of all politicians -- as a supposed "standard bearer..."
Romney was for protecting homosexual employees as minority status before he was against it...and then before he was against it at the fed level but for it at the state level...[3 positions]
Romney was for the enslavement of embryos of any purpose before he was against it as of Nov. 2004 before he was "pro-choice" on it, either way as of Dec 2007... [3 positions]
Romney was pro-abortion (1994) before he said he wasn't (July 2001) before he ran as a pro-abort gov (2002) before he had a pro-life "altar call" (Nov 2004) before he said he would protect the status quo of abortion in MA (2005) & passed pro-abortion RomneyCare (2006) before he said he was "effectively" -- previously "pro-choice" (Jan 2007) before he said he never deemed himself "pro-choice" (Aug 2007) before he said he was "pro-life" (2007) before he told parents they could put up their embryos for "research" purposes (Dec. 2007) before he got the support of all the pro-life groups (2011-2012) before he told CBS News in late August 2012 that he favored abortion for the wide-open exception of BOTH health and life of the mom...
And this is some kind of "standard bearer"...????
What a sick, perverted twisting of this word...(May I suggest you repent of such word games!)