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Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home
IFB ^ | 11/7/12

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obama’s radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big… and indeed he has.

Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.

Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt “diss’d” being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.

Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.

Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.

Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.

In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.

In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nation’s ideology and culture.

Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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To: KevinDavis
I guess you forgot the separation of church and state..

Tell us of your travels in Russia...

401 posted on 11/07/2012 3:19:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ann Archy
...they don’t think either are CHRISTIAN!! Catholics not Christian....LAUGHABLE!!

Uh...

...you don't have quite enough straw for this one.

402 posted on 11/07/2012 3:20:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation; The Ignorant Fisherman; All
Weren’t there a lot of evangelicals who were going to write in “Jesus Christ?”

Had not Romney already not been on the ballot in all states...the Romney voters effectively would have done that...They then could have written: 'god in embryo'...[what official Mormon doctrine is of their 'temple' Mormons]...kind of like Jesus in Mary's womb...all over again, courtesy of the Mormon god sending Mitt & others from the planet near Kolob to us on lowly earth!!!

403 posted on 11/07/2012 3:22:24 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: SENTINEL
Romney is a bald faced draft dodging RINO, with a lifetime of CULT liar training !

Speaking of training...




 
 
Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."


404 posted on 11/07/2012 3:22:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
The whiners on this thread either aren't aware of mormonism's excluding blacks from the 1830s until 1978 from attaining full fellowship or choose to ignore the fact, but bear in mind that this fact was known to many voters of all races through the internet.

Well; they can't say NOW that they don't know!!!





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

405 posted on 11/07/2012 3:24:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Please don’t read FR posters minds and PLEASE don’t remote read a pastor you’ve never even heard before. Why are you so prejudiced?

I've read many FR Catholic/Protestant religion threads over the years.

406 posted on 11/07/2012 3:24:44 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: svcw
...but hell - he was the only guy who could beat obama after all.

That worked out well!

407 posted on 11/07/2012 3:25:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RJS1950
Weneed you on that wall...

We want you on that wall...

408 posted on 11/07/2012 3:27:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
Aren't you in fine form. Aren't you smug.

You sound like a democrat. You really do. You are enjoying this coupe more than many democrats are.

Words cannot describe the contempt I feel for you, enabler of SOCIALISM. I condemn you, utterly and completely. I hope you live to regret your aid of the enemy.

409 posted on 11/07/2012 3:33:51 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 10/07/12)
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To: Elsie; mom4melody
Please don’t read FR posters minds and PLEASE don’t remote read a pastor you’ve never even heard before.

Based upon mom4melody's episode with the pastor in question, he appears to be a black racist who with a chip on his shoulder who would have found a reason to dislike any white opponent of Obama.

410 posted on 11/07/2012 3:35:02 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.

Do you really need to be the center of attention in every election cycle? Jews, Catholics, Orthodox can say every so often, our guy's not up there, but the guy who is, speaks for us? Why is that impossible for Evangelicals?

Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.

It's not clear who you're talking about here. Bush? Romney? You can disagree with positions that each man took, but nothing Bush did was actually and literally "Marxist." I'd say the same for Romney. Can we just finally recognize that not everything one disagrees with is Marxist? Isn't it time to drop that kind of loser talk?

411 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:59 PM PST by x
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To: greyfoxx39
Get over it....he lost and there's nothing you can gain by ranting at everyone here except look more and more foolish. Hissy fits are useless.

I saw a post much like this over at DU. Hmmm....go figure.

412 posted on 11/07/2012 3:37:10 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; svcw; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian; metmom
OOhh dear...your better than me-ness just breaks my heart...NOT.

Why would you believe your personal opinion of me would matter at all?

I smell the distinct odor of retread here.

better than you

413 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:10 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We told you Mitt wouldn't win.)
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To: Elsie
Elsie, I'll ask you flat out, I think you are an Evangelical....Do you believe Catholics are Christians?? Yes or No....not really too difficult.

If you are Mormon, answer the question anyway, please.

414 posted on 11/07/2012 3:48:36 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Elsie

“Actually ADMITTING you’re a religious bigot! “

Yep! I had a room mate in college who was a good guy and muslim, but I’ve seen what Islam does in countries like Iraq & Afghanistan. Don’t want any part of it. We were not founded as a Muslim country, thank the True God!

Lived in Utah and had mixed experiences with Mormons, but Mitt Romney wouldn’t bow to the King of Saudi Arabia. That, by itself, would be reason enough to vote for him instead of Obama. But if you prefer Barack, go ahead...


415 posted on 11/07/2012 3:50:02 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit.)
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To: kevao
The electorate demonstrated yesterday that it is comprised of more takers than makers. Those takers, who now outnumber us...

No, not a majority, but a good portion are, indeed, parasites. The other substantial block that makes up the difference in Leftist support is comprised of cultural nihilists, who despise even the appearance of moral order or sanity with white hot hatred. They are the death culture, the barbarians - a glimpse of whom we saw full on in the later years of the 1960's. These are now in charge.

416 posted on 11/07/2012 3:51:50 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Something which I inadvertently left out of my comment. Things are certainly going downhill fast. But then, you seem to just love a sled ride.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956715/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956717/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956716/posts

418 posted on 11/07/2012 3:57:09 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 10/07/12)
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To: truthluva
I saw a post much like this over at DU. Hmmm....go figure.

If I had posted something like this...Time to start that third party. I know, I know...but, the GOP elists guarantee defeat. Change has to start sometime. Why not now?

199 posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 4:10:44 PM by truthluva

....I wouldn't boast about being over at DU.

Get over it. Mitt lost. Start your third party.

419 posted on 11/07/2012 3:57:51 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We told you Mitt wouldn't win.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Wow, you are just sooooo clever.

BTW, I was over a DU looking for you. You were easy to spot.


420 posted on 11/07/2012 4:01:20 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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