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Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home
IFB ^ | 11/7/12

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obama’s radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big… and indeed he has.

Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.

Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt “diss’d” being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.

Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.

Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.

Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.

In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.

In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nation’s ideology and culture.

Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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KEYWORDS: christianvote; election2012; evangelicals; gopcivilwar; inman; ldschurch; mormons; romney2012
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To: Ann Archy; Elsie; The Ignorant Fisherman; All
Elsie, I'll ask you flat out, I think you are an Evangelical....Do you believe Catholics are Christians?? Yes or No....not really too difficult.

Btw, per CNN's exit polls, Catholics voted for Obama 50-48%...vs. white Evangelicals, who voted Romney 78-21%

So, given that the Jewish vote (69-30%), the Black Protestant vote, the liberal mainline Protestant vote, and the Catholic vote all collectively combined to elect Obama...why is the only religious segment to support the GoP (besides Lds) tossed under the bus in this thread -- to begin with???

(I guess when you have a moniker of "ignorant" in your screenname, in some cases 'tis a confessional!)

421 posted on 11/07/2012 4:03:23 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: Elsie

Aren’t you the biggest Mormon hater around here?


422 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:17 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Colofornian
How did WHITE Catholics vote, as I see you have evangelicals segmented as such.
423 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:26 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 10/07/12)
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To: Elsie
I honestly don't know enough about Mormon theology to be specific. That's why I chose to exclude it from the discussion.

To me, that's a good set of values.

I disagree with the no coffee or tea, though! But, then, that leaves more for me.

424 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:12 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Elsie

..... I grew up Baptist.

And I have a long list of dos and donts also.

So what’s the big deal?


425 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:09 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: truthluva

Are you starting your third party with the DUmmies? Smooth move.


426 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:24 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We told you Mitt wouldn't win.)
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To: Ann Archy; Elsie
Elsie, I'll ask you flat out, I think you are an Evangelical....Do you believe Catholics are Christians?? Yes or No....not really too difficult.

Since denominational affiliation does not dictate whether one is really a Christian or not, it's a meaningless question.

There are Christians and non-Christians in every denomination.

Being a Catholic does not by default mean being a Christian. Neither does being a Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, or whatever flavor of religion you choose.

The only thing that varies from denomination to denomination is the percentages of Christians in each one. Some are more likely to have more because they teach the truth, than others.

427 posted on 11/07/2012 4:15:09 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; All
Even though I live in PA & Romney had no real chance here, I voted for him & so did my daughters. I Despise obama...

All: Seems like a tacit admission here that the motivation behind this vote had NOTHING to do with conservativism and more to do with what the Obama & his minions' motivation...

Remember, when Obama told a crowd not to boo, but rather vote for purposes of "revenge?"

Veangefulness (of Romney) was Obama's way.

Voting out of despising someone -- knowing full well that the vote "had no real chance here" of actually aiding Romney to win -- sounds like a hater.

Had enough conservatives in obvious blue states voted for Virgil Goode -- sending a message to the GoP establishment not to alienate their very base the next go-round -- we might actually get somewhere.

But, sending a message that we'll sleep with whoever they send to spend the night; that we'll toss away our convictions & standards for a cup of extremely short-term political pottage; isn't very attractive to be as "leaders" to the conservative movement.

No wonder the GoP-e considers to overlook us...We can be "had" so cheaply...

428 posted on 11/07/2012 4:16:42 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: greyfoxx39

No, you are not invited.


429 posted on 11/07/2012 4:20:56 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
How did WHITE Catholics vote, as I see you have evangelicals segmented as such.

I don't have exact % as of yet

But I know Hispanics supported Obama 71-27%...and I'd say probably 80% (or more) of Hispanics are Catholic...

So, you'd probably be quite correct to assume that white Catholics supported Romney more than Obama...but probably by % somewhere around 50-47...that would be my guess...

The bottom-line even there is that even among white Catholics, I don't think Romney got their majority of all white Catholic votes (51%)...

430 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:14 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: Elsie

FWIW: I knew there was a reason I voted for Mitt:

“Today, Frank Ricciardone, the U.S. ambassador to Turkey, announced that Obama’s first trip of his second term will be to Turkey, a country which has witnessed under its increasingly Islamist government an unprecedented roll back of basic freedoms. The Turks are looking at Obama’s choice as an endorsement. They are probably right. On top of this, Ricciardone’s announcement comes right after Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoan announced that he would soon travel to Gaza, in recognition and support of Hamas.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956732/posts

Mitt was my last choice in the GOP primary, but he didn’t hate America and he doesn’t love Islam in all its forms. I spent some time in Turkey when it was still a secular muslim country. Don’t want anything to do with it now.


431 posted on 11/07/2012 4:23:54 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit.)
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To: svcw
Romney is a practitioner of mormonISM and he was also a liberal - but hell he was the only guy who could beat obama after all.

I believe it would be more accurate to say that Romney is one of the few in the bunch that couldn't beat Obama...

Way back in the primaries, people were warned that the conservative base (in general) would not vote for Romney but he was forced upon us anyway...

And that coupled with the liberals who figured that Obama did a better job at being Obama that Romney would have, it was a no brainer...

A word to the wise; next time, get on the band wagon of the candidate that the base wants to support...

432 posted on 11/07/2012 4:44:51 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: SENTINEL
The final national lifeline IMHO was Sarah Palin.

I agree...The people that trashed Sarah Palin can't figure out why her supporters (many of them) wouldn't vote for Romney...

433 posted on 11/07/2012 4:49:34 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

The GOTV here was awful. I was the ONLY one that did anything, Precinct captain is a Ron Paul guy. Two days before the election, he put out a yard sign. That was the extent of his effort.


434 posted on 11/07/2012 4:52:26 PM PST by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: SENTINEL
Which Isreal, ...Isreal ? Or Salt Lake City which mormons teach is "New Isreal"...What you were hearing when Romney talked about support for Isreal was in part cult code speak for supporting Salt Lake City !!

You may be right about that...I don't follow the Mormon religion...But I do know that Obama will facilitate Iran to launch nuclear weapons against the 'real' Israel...And I have seen where Romney claimed he would support the 'real' Israel during any military conflicts...That's what clinched my support for Romney...

435 posted on 11/07/2012 4:55:03 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: reaganaut
One other VERY important point. the USA is NOT the protector of the Nation of Israel, God is. It appears you are putting more faith in the USA than in God.

God is not and has not been standing on the Mount of Olives protecting Israel...It's quite clear that God has used the U.S. to provide weapons and money to Israel in order for Israel to defend itself and prosper...Who can't see that???

436 posted on 11/07/2012 5:01:47 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

How sad you have such a low opinion of yourself


437 posted on 11/07/2012 6:05:25 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

There is no anti-mormon bigotry - there is exposure of mormonISm.
Christian are sick to death of mormonISM claiming they are Christianity.
Get over yourself, an learn the difference.


438 posted on 11/07/2012 6:24:55 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

Unless you can PROVE on anti-mormon post, then shut the hell up.
Grow up and stop the ignorant “oh you support obama” because you didn’t kiss the butt of Romney.


439 posted on 11/07/2012 6:28:05 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: mom4melody

“Our pastor voiced concern about Romney making mormonism more mainstream.”

When he was governor of Massachusetts, his religion was a non-issue and many people didn’t even realize he was a Mormon.


440 posted on 11/07/2012 6:55:33 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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