Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home

IFB ^ | 11/7/12

[reaganaut]

That’s okay because I despise you. You, and any others that did not vote for Romney, are my enemy. You are responsible for what happens in the next four years.

I hope you, and all your “sweet christian friends” are miserable. In fact, I think you’re just miserable people in general.

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Well first of all, I love you because Christ commands it. Secondly, I hate to disappoint you (no I don’t) but I am far from miserable. Third, I am not responsible for the next 4 years, I didn’t support loser Romney, even in the primaries and I (and my sweet Christian friends) warned about this. I don’t live in a swing state so my vote didn’t affect the election in the least (unless you failed civics and think the US elects based upon popular vote) so even if I HAD voted for Romney, it wouldn’t change the results (my state went for Romney solidly).

Finally, it is the RINOS in the party who are responsible, we SHOULD have taken the Senate, greatly increased our lead in the House and taken the WH, but rather the GOP elite are the ones who shoved someone who is liberal and a liar and had a horrendous record down our throats because it was ‘his turn’. THEY are your real enemies.

But if it makes you feel better to hate and blame me - go ahead. I don’t care if you like me or not. I will continue to speak the truth and speak the truth boldly. Deal with it.

[svcw]

Oh, do you don’t know anything about mormonIsm.
I may be a nut job but I am not wrong

[svcw]

I am correct In what I said, I may have replyed to the wrong person

[reaganaut]

Prior to 2008, I was a “broken glass republican”, now I’m a broken glass voter.

I’d still crawl over broken glass to vote for a conservative but no political party owns my vote.

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I agree but it took until this last year for me to change. You couldn’t get me to stay home on election day. Because I had to bring my mother out to our ranch, we had to drive 32 miles to vote early (at the county courthouse).

In my rural town, voter turnout was about 45%, but it wasn’t the Evangelicals or even the Protestants that stayed home, it was the Democrats (mostly Catholic and unchurched). Almost all the Republicans voted according to the election chair (my mother’s next door neighbor). The reason the dems stayed home was they didn’t like either one of them. The few Evangelicals in town (about 8%) ALL voted.

[reaganaut]

God is not and has not been standing on the Mount of Olives protecting Israel...It’s quite clear that God has used the U.S. to provide weapons and money to Israel in order for Israel to defend itself and prosper...Who can’t see that???

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God does not need America to protect Israel, He may choose to USE America, but ultimately HE protects Israel and Israel exists at HIS good pleasure, not ours.

Who can’t see that??!?!?!

[fabian]

No..it is not WE that want a Marxist....it is they...the other dumb-ass brainwashed half of America whom we are yolked with. Not for long though.

[reaganaut]

I support that as so much is at stake - supreme court nominees. I used to think that the GOP was the intelligent alternative to Marxism - but seeing the anti-Mormon bigotry, I am not so sure.

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As SVCW said, at least for us, it is telling the TRUTH about Mormonism, not ‘anti-Mormon bigotry’. If there is any real ‘anti-Mormon bigotry’ it is on the Dem side, because their views are often based upon ignorance. For us we speak out against Mormonism, because we know the truth and as CHRISTIANS HATE that they insult our Savior at every turn by their THEOLOGY.

Do your research before you spout off.

[DungeonMaster]

Here is why so many people stayed home:

Rush told Romney that the Republicans are selling the opportunity to succeed with "succeed" being defined as become very wealthy in a business you start. Here is where Rush has lost touch. Very very few people care to become very wealthy. I know I don't. I'm a Christian, I'd be ashamed to be very wealthy. So how does his message resonate with anyone?

So what do we want? Real moral justice against gays, sluggards who won't work, baby killers, political deceit, those who make it unsafe for our kids to ride their bikes down the sidewalk in our neighborhoods, rampant femanism, and race baiting.

[Colofornian]

I didn't say Romney is perfect

(Understatement of the day!)

You know when you put an average looking man or woman next to a very poor looking man or woman...and then have somebody "check out" the opposite-sex two men, or two woman (depending on who's looking)... 'tis a fair # of men & women out there who could make some pretty average looking fellow men or women look pretty good by comparison.

That's what we had with Obama this go-round...

Romney wasn't even "average" ... and yet, next to Obama, he was given quite a "lookover."

[firebrand]

It was not evangelicals in particular but anyone whose faith is not accompanied by political acumen. We must have both. We must weigh the evils against each other. Unfortunate, but that’s how it is. To vote libertarian or purist or to stay home is evidence of a compartmentalized brain.

[firebrand]

It turned out that they had no effect, specifically, on this election, but beliefs spread through the culture and make these spoilers more acceptable to a certain type.

I stopped encouraging them by attending their meetings. I wanted to hear what was going on and what they were planning, but realized I was encouraging them, even ever so slightly, by my presence. I’ve tried to stay friends with some of them but won’t go to any of their political gatherings.

[firebrand]

That’s not evangelism or youth, that’s ignorance.

I had a Dem friend try to tell me that “neither side presented a clear viewpoint” after we had agreed not to discuss politics. She thought that was not discussing politics because the Dems tell their followers this vague stuff to use as talking points as if it were fact. Sort of like a concern troll. If she had been better informed, she would have seen right through that tactic.

“Both parties are the same” is another one, similar, that I get tired of hearing.

[Elsie]

We will not have to now wonder if Mitt would put his Oath of Office before his oath to his religion.

There are oaths; and then there are OATHS!

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...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: “Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’

Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.

[Elsie]

God never said it was up to me to get rid of Obama, just to not vote for evil and both are evil.

Obedience is better than sacrifice.

[Elsie]

YES I DID put my FAITH before POLITICS AS ALL CHRISTIANS SHOULD!!!!

Now,now...

...no need to shout.

Wow; you really must think that thing about having 'no other gods before Me' is true!

Surely GOD would not want your country to fall: the country that was FOUNDED, based on the following...

 

 

 

Mayflower Compact

 

In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.

Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.

 

SURELY not voting for a Conserv uhh... Chris... uhh mora... uhh good looking fellow as Mr. Romney would be allowed by your GOD; wouldn't it?

[Elsie]

Daniel 4:17

"...but if not...", spoken by Churchill; needed no reference given, for the hearers of his voice to instantly understand from whench it came; and just what it meant!

Sadly; we have folks who are perfectly fine with judging Mourdock for his words; and are perfectly fine with calling the SuperStorm an 'act of GOD'.

[Elsie]

But...

...but LORD!

They're trying to KILL me!!!

Can't you see I'm the ONLY one left???

[Elsie]

 

 

...meanwhile babies will continue to be slaughtered

 

 

A young girl was walking along a beach upon which thousands of starfish had been washed up during a terrible storm. When she came to each starfish, she would pick it up, and throw it back into the ocean. People watched her with amusement.
 
 She had been doing this for some time when a man approached her and said, “Little girl, why are you doing this? Look at this beach! You can’t save all these starfish. You can’t begin to make a difference!”
 
 The girl seemed crushed, suddenly deflated. But after a few moments, she bent down, picked up another starfish, and hurled it as far as she could into the ocean. Then she looked up at the man and replied,
  
“Well, I made a difference to that one!”
 
 
The old man looked at the girl inquisitively and thought about what she had done.

 

Inspired, he joined the little girl in throwing starfish back into the sea. Soon others joined, and all the starfish were saved.

 

 

 - adapted from the Star Thrower by Loren C. Eiseley

 

[Elsie]

I am against Mormonism, but had he been true to what Mormons are out here in the west, I probably would have voted for him.

And what is that?

They can't even be 'true' to their own SCRIPTURE!!

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According to their Second Greatest Living Prophet®...

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

No need to look it up; I've done it for you...

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The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

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58 Now, as touching the law of the ^apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was ^aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that ^bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ^ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit ^dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse ^aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have ^aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to ^amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be ^bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take ^aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.

[Elsie]

"What is this Doctrine and Covenants thing?" some will say.

"I thought the MORMONs 'bible' was "The Book of MORMON"??

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For the uninformed, the BoM contains hardly anything that can be called the rules and regulations that they supposedly live by.

The D&C as well as the Pearl of Great Price are ALSO considered to be 'scripture' to MORMONism.

Moreover, the 'sacred' rituals performed in their secretive temples are to be found NOWHERE in ANY of their 'scripture'.