Skip to comments.Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home
Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obamas radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big and indeed he has.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt dissd being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.
Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Natures God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nations ideology and culture.
Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
I voted for Romney even though I think he would have gone moderate on social issues after the election but it was because I thought it was critical to get Obama out because he was fiscally bankrupting the country and moving us toward Socialism. Romney clearly is a Capitalist and would have reversed that. And Romney is a good “turn around specialist” who could have applied his knowledge to the government.
However, Evangelicals are not necessary small government, Tea Party conservatives. We do have some “one issue” voters out there who will not vote for someone who they view as soft on abortion. I’m not going to fault Evangelicals for not voting for Romney if their issue is abortion and they don’t care as much about limiting government. I disagree with the decision but I’m not going to “scape goat” them. The Dems just have a larger voting block than Republicans, period. That’s the way it is. We have to address that.
Well, I didn’t! I actually got off of my sick bed (I have a terminal illness) and drove myself to vote. I’m asking God to take away any bitterness than I have regarding the Liberals and stay at home Evangelicals.
I happened to be lurking on a board frequented by evangelical young people (20-somethings, a few 30’s) discussing the election, and was stunned to see the overwhelming apathy and fatalism. “Why vote - it makes no difference - they’re both the same” was the prevailing opinion.
Well congratulation ! You made the Perfect the enemy of the Good.
In return those who stayed home get the responsibility for the next4 years and have no right to bitch. So when Obamacare is fully implemented, gay marriage is the norm, and Obama names 2 or 3 more judges to SCOTUS and Israel is nuked, it’s all on those who stayed home.
I didn’t vote for Obama either. Have you forgotten we have an Electoral College? My state wasn’t a swing state, I could vote my conscience and didn’t cave to pressure, especially in a state where it didn’t matter (I live in a solid red state).
Stupidity is caving religious beliefs for political gain.
Good for you. I have never stayed home for any election or primary and I never would.
Glad to hear you didn’t stay home. I never encourage anyone to do that.
My mother is terminally ill and I drove her to vote and voted as well.
I will keep you in my prayers CWC.
Are there stats to support this thesis?
Ummmm...No, you actually voted for Obama. Virgil Goode had absolutely NO chance, and you were in a critical state, so don’t come on here all holier than thou.
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Ummm...No I wasn’t in a critical state, not sure where you got that idea. I am NOT in a swing state. I know VG didn’t have a chance of winning but he does reflect my views and worships the same God.
It’s America’s youth and their ignorance that won the election for Obama. They have no concept or understanding of traditional families, communism, Reaganomics, and even basic Christian values.
If Republican’s want to win in the future the message needs to be modified to appeal to them. Taking a stronger state’s rights stance on the social issues is the only way I can see fiscons and socons achieving some kind of coalition needed to defeat Democrats. It’s a numbers game now and the traditional conservative doesn’t have the needed votes without recruiting new voters.
Good to hear. We just have to keep on keeping on and fighting the good fight...
Ephesians 6:12 -
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
How has it been determined that evangelicals stayed home, this soon? Romney sure won the most conservative states with the highest number of evangelicals.
Painting with rather a broad brush, FRiend. I voted for the only person in the race I could (Virgil Goode). I did not sit at home. But I could not vote for an antichrist in any form, whether Marxist or Mormon. I am sad that God is asking us to endure four more years of Marxist misery, but delighted he has withheld us from a greater evil, the mainstreaminging of a soul destroying cult, whose damage isn’t measured in election cycles lost or even decades lost, but in eternities lost.
If you still object, consider Romans 12. Say you are the “liberated” Christian, absolutely confident it would not be sin for you to empower a man who sees himself as being a god in embryonic form. Fine. Your choice. What about those of us who cannot get past that, who find 2 john 1:9-11 compelling evidence that we should offer no support whatsoever to anyone who brings an antichrist gospel, which Mormonism clearly does? Would you have us destroy our consciences for your benefit? What was Paul’s position on meat offered to idols? While the world stood, he would not destroy his fellow believer over his own sense of freedom.
So while I do not expect essentially secular conservatives to ever understand or forgive us dissenters, I expect better things of those who make their fame from their commitment to the Gospel. You of all people should know that our being salt and light is simply a side effect of being faithful to Christ. We have no preservative effect in the world, no power of illumination, if we lose our ability to trust God and do what is right, no matter what. Those who have died to preserve our liberty have not died in vain, unless and until we stop using our freedom for good, for truth, and for the Gospel of salvation.
We as a nation got what we deserve. The GOP just happened to really get what they deserved. I wonder whose turn it is next time.
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.
AMEN! Stupidity is never a virtue.i
Mormonism is a benign religious denomination. The description of it as a cult is religious superstition and fear run amuck. Who cares if Mormonism becomes mainstream? I could not care less! Mormons are moral people and good citizens. I do not give a fig if they are not “true Christians.” Some Evangelicals are such religious fanatics they think they are Gods CHOSEN and everyone else is unclean, demonic and damned. This blending of superstition and arrogance is just disgusting to me.
To all the people that voted FOR Obamaor STAYED HOME...WOE to you.
The Goode/Johnson votes made the difference in Virginia, Florida and Ohio. Thanks for helping to reelect Obama.
THANKS for hastening the decline of America! A vote for Virgil Goode??? OMG!! I guess you feel so GODLY!
If Jesus wasn’t real and if the stakes weren’t so high I would agree with you.
You have believed the lies of Satan - and blew our last chnace of turning this nation around - we will not make it to 2016.
Im an Evangelical and know the Bible inside and out - do you not think that God could use an unbeliever like Mitt Romney to do His work here? If that is what you think then YOU dont know your Bible and shame on you.
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What lies of Satan would those be? Mitt’s liberal record? Nope that’s a fact. Mitt’s heretical and BLASPHEMOUS theology? Nope that’s a fact, too. I used to be Mormon.
I can ask you the same thing, God used pagans to break Isreal and get them to repent. Why can’t God use Obama the same way? If you think that you don’t know the Bible as well as you think and I can pretty much bet I know it better than you.
Your comment that this was the last chance to turn this nation around shows a lack of faith in God on your part.
Trust God even in trials. I COULD not be a hypocrite and vote for either Mitt or Obama. I took it to God in prayer and believe I did what was right and in line with my Christian faith. Shame on your for criticizing that.
Screw the “Evangelicals” F em all. Ban me for all i care. Anyone who stayed home in 2012 to give obama four years is a piece of S$%.
I’m surprised you didn’t vote for Jesus then!! You’ve got NOTHING Reaganesque about you...he had common sense and brains!
True, they keep them at arm's length, and also tend to end up doing what the Dems did a few years ago.
Who the hell is Virgil Goode???
I didn’t stay home... I was working the polls as an officer of election....sent my vote in absentee
thx for obammey..thx very much...
children will be murdered, women raped, towns destroyed, perhaps widespread famine, riots, Israel destroyed, and then please go tell God you did it in HIS name?.......
you will be judged and not pleasantly, for your arrogance and your fake self righteousness..
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Don’t blame me, blame the GOP elite. We have an electoral college, not a popular vote, my vote didn’t swing my state (red state).
And really, all those things would have happened under Romney too.
God will judge me but not for this. You are the one who is arrogant and self righteous. I’m following my Christian faith and not compromising. You however seem to be rolling over for an abortion loving, gay marriage loving, gun grabbing statist (to quote Boss man). I didn’t.
“To all the people that voted FOR Obamaor STAYED HOME...WOE to you.”
And woe to all of us because of the Anti-Morman vote.
Good article here:
November 4, 2012 | 9:08 pm
Evangelical anti-Mormonism: A guide for Jews
Posted by Mark Paredes
It is my hope that Evangelical leaders will eventually choose to shut down the anti-Mormon industry and devote themselves to the exclusive preaching of their faith. Until they do, theyre not going to get any applause from me for their occasional praise of individual Mormons virtues. If I had to choose today between having Romney win with the support of pastors who think he belongs to a non-Christian cult, or having Obama win without it, I would toss a coin.
Mark Paredes is a member of the Jewish Relations Committee of the LDS Church’s Southern California Public Affairs Council. You can contact Mark at email@example.com and follow him on Twitter @jewsandmormons.
“My pastor got up the Sunday before the election day and did a sermon on how Mormanism is a cult. I am leaving this church as I think electing a Muslim is a worse sin. I was appalled”
I was wondering if this article was true until I read your comment.
Thank you for leaving that Church. I’m sure you will find a better one. Maybe someone needs to tell your old pastor that Obama thinks “the Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world.”
I think Mormonism is a cult, but Muslim is a much scarier and evil cult and if Obama isn’t an outright member, he is a Muslim sympathizer and supporter.
Thanks to people like you who didn’t vote for Romney, medical rationing will be here SOON. If you’re an older person, schedule your knee replacement ASAP. My nephew & his wife in CA are thrilled about the upcoming “marriage equality”
Maybe you need a hip replacement. Don’t put it off one minute longer, or you’ll be on a waiting list. Maybe you’re just too old, according to obamacare.
To You people who think Romney isn’t good enough for you:
Do not complain about obama anymore. I don’t want to hear it.
Why do you demand that the President double as your spiritual leader?
The President's job should be to keep the bureaucracy from messing up the economy, and to keep us safe from foreign violence, and otherwise leave us alone to manage our own affairs.
I have a feeling that the Evangelicals who opposed Romney would have been similarly peeved at a Catholic, Orthodox, or Jewish candidate. Or even a candidate outside their own tiny sect.
I didn’t vote for Obama either. What part of the Electoral College to you people NOT understand??!?!?!
A vote for VG was not a vote for Romney (who is not God or a savior) nor was a it a vote for Obama!!!
Take a civics class, people!!
I think we all agree with Mormon values.
What’s your point?
Eisenhower, didn't become a born again Christian until after he was elected.
“HAVE FAITH IN GOD, NOT MAN.”
Most of us do, but too many evangelicals follow the man and not God by idolizing their preacher who tells them what to believe. Many of the mega-church preachers are getting rich off of having O in office. Beware of false prophets. A lot are starting to act like black preachers, if the preacher if wealthy then it will come back to the members.
There were several reasons I voted for Romney:
1 - He’s not a muslim & he would support Israel.
2 - He loves America & is proud of it.
3 - He is fiscally to the right of Obama.
I never expected anything on social issues other than SLIGHTLY less liberal Supreme Court justices.
I wasn’t electing a pastor. At this point, I would be content just to have someone in office who loves America and doesn’t bow to the Saudi King!
The Bible also says this:
You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Most people dont know about a lot of good deeds he has done off camera:
so basically you helped a Muslim that worships the false demon god, Allah get elected. How do you feel now?
“I refuse to compromise my CHRISTIAN FAITH and vote for Romney. I am beholden to my Commanding Officer - Jesus Christ alone.”
Welcome to the Jungle. You just voted for the Muslim...
I pay my own medical bills TYVM and it is foolish to think Romney would be any different, last month he said he was PROUD to the ‘grandfather of Obamacare’.
It isn’t my fault, it is the GOPs for throwing up Romney instead of a conservative.
Even if I had voted for Romney, it wouldn’t change the outcome, I don’t live in a swing state.
Awesome, more people need to do that. I did that several times when I lived in CA.
“The GOP-e thinks Evangelicals are dumb hicks, but they surely cant win when even a fraction of that base stays home.”
You have proven their point and also proven that you don’t believe in the Constitution. Throwing away Religious Freedom in the name of your belief is stupidity.
I don’t live in any of those states. I didn’t help and as a CHRISTIAN I COULD NOT vote for MITT or OBAMA. I would be a hypocrite if I had.
I disagree. Most conservative Christians voted against the anti-God, anti-Jew/Christian party. We don’t have statistics from the election yet. We lost due to campaign and voter fraud.
Taking a survey: How many of you attend a Christian church, of any denomination, where you heard an anti-Mormon sermon? Wondering if it happened in evangelical churches or in mainline?
You can thank the GOPe. And I am a humble sinner saved by grace. I quit feeling ‘godly’ when I was saved from the evils of Mormonism and quit trying to earn godhood for myself.
I voted for a Christian, Conservative who opposes abortion and homosexuality. Can you say the same?
Given that most of Congress’s GOP contingent held on their seats, it wouldn’t surprise me if there was a big anti-Mormon vote among Democrats, Republicans and Independents.
The Bible is filled with examples of unbelievers and very flawed individuals doing God’s work. He could have used Mitt Romney that way...and I’m just disgusted that my evangelical brothers and sisters apparently didn’t see that.
You know what? Mormonism is wrong in my opinion, but Mitt Romney is a friendly, good-spirited guy who genuinely loves America. You can’t say the same about Obamao. That alone would have made a significant difference, divine ordinance or not.
But it would be a mistake to place the blame squarely on evangelicals. It was a combination of factors:
-Romney himself for playing it safe on Benghazi, etc.
-Schools and colleges, for churning out an entire generation of leftist ideologues
-Every one of us for falling for the line that the polls were all rigged just like we did in 2008
And those are only a few off the top of my head.
IIRC one of the complaints that was filed was by a R poll watcher who was supposed to be able to observe that the tallies started at zero. She was not allowed to observe that. I strongly doubt that was an accident and I wonder how many different places that happened.
I want to see the signatures on the voter rolls and the D and R poll-watchers’ check-off lists to see what percentages of their registered voters actually voted.