Skip to comments.Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home
Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obamas radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big and indeed he has.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt dissd being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.
Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Natures God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nations ideology and culture.
Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
You do know as well as I do that AMWAY is led by and proliferates among LDS members, along with Maleleuka, Pampered Chef, the candle one, the scentsy one, the basket one, the makeup one etc etc etc.
This is so common in Utah the writers of "Big Love" even wrote it into one season with Margie bankrupting her neighbor with "Goji Juice."
It evidently is for Harry Reid.
He's been quoted as saying that his MORMONism is what made him a Democrat.
I've not seen any exigesis (SP?) for his claim; so I'll have to assume that HE has found something in MORMONism to be the way he is.
Richard DeVos of Grand Rapids, MI, co-founder of Amway, Religion: Christian Reformed Church
Jay VanAndel of Grand Rapids, MI, co-founder of Amway, Religion: Christian Reformed Church
Doug DeVos of Grand Rapids, MI, co-CEO of Alticor (was Amway), Religion: Protestant
Steve Van Andel of Grand Rapids, MI, co-CEO of Alticor (was Amway), Religion: Roman Catholic
Since these things are easily researched, perhaps you should do more homework.
I realize that Wikipedia is not the last word in accuracy, but they are sincerely trying to gain ground on "Big Love" for credibility. Maybe within a few years, they'll have a crack team of researchers to compete with "Big Love" and we can start to place more trust the information we find there.
Office of First President & Living Prophet®:
November 8, 2012
The masses are taught not to think for themselves but to just do what ‘feels’ right. The amount of illogical thinking is appalling.
And those who DO think for themselves are often attacked. Sad reality of today.
DAMN you Obama voters!
“In short, your Mormon friends are lying to you in hopes of making the LDS church look good and getting you to convert.”
Sorry. Some of them I’ve known over a 30 year period. Many of the Mormons I knew never made ANY attempt to convert me. They simply were not that religious.
Your accusation has been made against Baptists who hoped and prayed for the conversion of Jews and Mormons and others. It isn’t true then, either.
I’ve also known converts out of Mormonism who have had divided families most of their lives. It isn’t true then, either. Life simply isn’t the way you portray it.
You found some co- folks.
Didja leave any out?
Temple Recommend Questions:
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Certainly, by whatever your definition of "leadership" is, I must have.
However, since most people inexplicably equate the term "leadership" with "Chief Executive Officer" when discussing a corporation, I thought it best not to rock the boat by declaring some mid-level Amway participant living in Orem, UT to be the Alticor/Amway corporate "leadership." Besides, the DeVos family called from Michigan and were quite insistant that I not do that.
My local newspaper, The Express-Times, endorsed obama. Glad were not subscribers anymore...
EDITORIAL: Re-elect President Obama
I went to bed that night wondering what Willard would do with 2012 gallons of Green Jello he and the family had to celebrate with while they watched the fireworks ...
They did justice to the funeral potatoes though...
Neither is death...
I suspect I know more about Mormonism than you do. It wouldn’t be hard, since you seem to believe I was in danger of having the Mormon Church hire an assassin to kill me when I lived in Utah. This isn’t 1850.
I suspect you might be right.
But I KNOW that I post more of it's scripture, teaching and history than you do.
Oh; I'm sure they could find a volunteer to do it.
“But I KNOW that I post more of it’s scripture, teaching and history than you do. “
Yes, and you seem to think this has relevance for a Presidential candidate and that Obama is therefor a better person to have in office. Thus you post this on a political thread rather than in the religious forum.
Maybe you think this does some good. I doubt it does, but I’m already convinced Mormonism is false. I had these sorts of debates in high school in the 70s before I ever moved to Utah. I’ve read thousands of pages of material.
So what is the point in lecturing me, or posting a link to CARM?
“Oh; I’m sure they could find a volunteer to do it.”
Well, they didn’t in the 7 years I lived there, and failed again when I visited in October...
No, you said trying to become wealthy is a biblical principle now YOU prove that.
We are not electing a Christian king. At the same time I will not be party to advancing and anti-christian ideology.