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How could we lose, or is it How could we have won?

Posted on 11/07/2012 10:42:53 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican

First off, I am not a conspiracist, but after the untold reports of record turn-out, we still fell short of a million or so votes that McCain got. REALLY? I know plenty who sat 2008 out, but not a single soul who sat out this one.

Oh, there is a lot here blaming Romney and I will be the first to say that he was about my last choice, but I was more than impressed with the way he handled his campaign. It was clean, truthful and honest. The GPO convention was more than I could have dreamed for.

Was I living in a dream land? I guess so. I thought that the two big wins that Scott Walker had against the Unions was big. I thought Chic-Fil-A was Huge!! Then you had Bengahzi, the soaring debts, contiued unemployment, dismal GDP and a health care system that no one wanted.

Yet, we lost. Why? Was it because of a moderate Romney? I don't think so. Romney was about as far right as you could get when compared to 0.

So what was it? Well we all know if we are true to ourselves. The MSM. The very same people that dem Pat Cadel slammed as enmemies of the State. The same people who would not question 0 about Benghazi in any capacity. They let it slide, just like they have everything since 0 showed his face.

They have not vetted 0 once; but rather blatantly defended him in any capaicty they can. 0 told countless lies during the last several weeks. What did the MSM do, but run with them. Guys, it is time we learn and fully understand who our real opponent is.

So who would or rather COULD have one last night? A REAL CONSERVATIVE? Perhaps but I doubt it.

I think we would have had heaps of enthusiasm and a record turn out and a dismal loss like last night with the MSM gloating as they are today. There is nothing that even hints that it could have been anything different. The MSM would have slain whoever it was; this person would have had all of the support of everyone who lives and breathes for freedom and love of country, but we would have still lost.

They have painted a pretty ugly picture with no easy way out. Things like this don't usually end pretty, but they do end.

I say the dream lives, and America is only as dead as your will to fight for her.

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To: A Navy Vet

And how to we retrain our citizens to crave freedom? Only the older generations know how. When they are gone, all hope is gone.

How do we resist communism? Doesn’t your military training include something of that nature?

21 posted on 11/07/2012 11:06:30 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: BornToBeAmerican

The Pubbie candidate in 2016 will have to be an educator and a salesman...or saleswoman. The tide has turned..there are now more takers than producers. The Pubbie candidate will have to sell conservatism. Can it be done? I have my doubts. Too many Americans now believe Big Government is the answer to their problems. They don’t want to be told to work for a living. Doesn’t look good.

22 posted on 11/07/2012 11:08:17 AM PST by driftless2
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To: GBT1945

Although I believe in and support the Tea party, all the the Tea party candidates lost that I know of. The country has moved left, with all the illegals, third worlders, and those receiving government candy, plus the liberals. Also, the MSM was cheerleading for O every day and gave up any pretense they ever had toward being objective. You should have seen the blatant advocacy on Yahoo, for example. We have a different country now than we had even 5-10 years ago.

23 posted on 11/07/2012 11:11:26 AM PST by NotTallTex
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To: BornToBeAmerican

States with Strict Photo ID Enforcement:

Kansas, Indiana, Tennessee, and Georgia!

Gee Obama didn’t do to well in those states.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 11:11:50 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Obama has transformed America by buying the vote with taxpayer money and the main stream media did its part by deceiving the public.

We will have to pay the price under a radical left wing Supreme Court, government run health insurance that will be unaffordable, a weakend dollar under the Federal Reserve’s continuous quantitatitative easing, loss of our military security, increasing wars, eventual massive inflation and bankruptcies (both government and private) and more unthinkable horror.

25 posted on 11/07/2012 11:21:21 AM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Need investigative jounalists to name & give background on each & every owner/bd mbr of the MSM)
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To: NotTallTex

Everyone is too busy to teach their children and to make sure others are taught about freedom.

Everyone is too busy to step in and do the grunt work it takes to keep the government constitutional.

Everyone is too busy to defend freedom at home so when our soldiers come home from defending us, they find they have been defending a myth.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 11:22:23 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: gridlock

Remind me where the main theme Reagan had to deal with was two attention whore nutty senate candidates saying stupid things about rape. That a womans body can shut it down if it was legitimate, or that her getting knocked up was gods plan.

That was apparently a BIG success with women voters. Reagan never had to deal with such insurrectionist lunacy from within.
The economy is a disaster, we are about to have the military gutted, coal is about to be outlawed, Taxes are about to shoot up, we had one shot to stop Obamacare, electricity prices are going to skyrocket, the dollar is in growing danger of losing it’s reserve currency status, Israel will be attacked soon because they know Obama will cut them loose, the Iranians are about to get the bomb, and Obama is embracing the muslim brotherhood. There is open discussion in egypt about tearing down the pyramids and Christians are actually being crucified again,,,,,,and these two bozos managed to make the medias “war on women” meme take wings.

28 posted on 11/07/2012 11:37:28 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Well, take a look at the Democrat campaign. We have a poor economy, high unemployment, high gas prices, a failed and dangerous foreign policy, falling house prices, GM goes bankrupt, constant scandals with Pigford and green bailouts, etc....and Obama runs a campaign saying “You know me” and “You can trust me!”, neither one of which is true. Yet, he wins. Somebody voted for him. The older I get, the more people I run into who want to teach me a lesson. They’re going to teach me a lesson for getting a job they wanted. They’re going to teach me a lesson for disagreeing with them. They want to teach me a lesson for not giving them a deal on something they wanted. Lots of teachers in this country. Obama is a teacher. He’s going to teach us that, “Elections have consequences”. That’s going to be a hard lesson for all of us. If you want to teach people lessons, sign up to teach a Sunday School class. If you want to keep the Democrats out of your pockets, vote Republican.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 11:37:57 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: hedgetrimmer

How do we retrain citizens to crave freedom?
Well, they need to hurt enough. These women that bought the “war on women” theme and feel so smug today. If they are under 40, they have no memory whatsoever of 18 and 19% mortgages, of grinding unemployment, of odd even days at gas stations and “no gas” signs.
They have only known the Reagan prosperity, and the “Clinton” properity which was actually the Newt and rise of the internet prosperity. Daffy duck could have been president from 92-2000 and would have seen the economy explode from the whole era.

They do not realize how bad it can be. They will experience it. And when they hurt enough, they may, like the citizens of the USSR, be finally ready for doing the things that successful nations do.

30 posted on 11/07/2012 11:54:48 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

IMO, we lost for one reason, and one reason only, more people voted for Obama than for Romney. Sounds simplistic, but we have crossed the threshold and there are more on “their” side than on ours. They include those on the “take”, those who simply are not informed (by in those man on the street interviews on Jay Leno shows which show exactly how uninformed the general public is), those who say they listen to become informed, but are knowingly misled by the media, and then there are those insiders, who seek power and control.

This is just part of a post I saw on a friend’s FB page, it speaks to those who have succumbed to the redistribution lie.

“All those who voted for Mr. Obama seem to believe they have provided for themselves a government funded future, but in reality they have booked first class passage on the USA Titanic.”

31 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:11 PM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: Augustinian monk

Our country has descended to a level of illiteracy that our country is lost. Nobody cares about having a democracy or a free market economy. The race is so close that no one is concerned about jobs, the economy, trade, immigration, the drug war, or the budget. Nobody cares about our country and where it’s headed anymore. This will be the last generation that will even remember what America felt like when people were free. After this election we will become so dependent on government that we’ll slowly morph into a socialist Banana Republic where the majority will be on the dole. Our republic lasted just less than 200 years so it was a short period of time. WE were the first democracy in the world and will probably be the last. Everything will all be down hill from here—enjoy it these final days because it is fading.

32 posted on 11/07/2012 1:22:27 PM PST by will2476
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To: DesertRhino
Remind me where the main theme Reagan had to deal with was two attention whore nutty senate candidates saying stupid things about rape.

Surely equally stupid things were being said back in 1980. But Reagan was not defined by them because he had alrealdy defined himself long before he ran for President.

Where is Mitt Romney's "A Time for Choosing"? Where is the modern Republican broadside against Socialized Medicine?

In order to get people to agree with your positions, you have to state your positions and convince them. Instead our politics have become all about gotcha "gaffes" and minutia.

It reminds me of Supreme Court nominations where the President goes out to find a stealth nominee who has said absolutely nothing about anything, because that is the way to win 50 votes in the Senate. Well, the electorate doesn't work that way. If you want them to vote for you, you have to tell them what they are voting for.

33 posted on 11/08/2012 5:01:48 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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